For the record, folks, I am not averse to changing or annotating the records I have transcribed and uploaded to the county site at usgenweb. I've done this in the past upon request. Almost always it comes down to handwriting that could be interpreted more than one way. It is the nature of people to make mistakes and handwriting can often be interpreted more than one way. I like the approach Rootsweb takes with its volunteer donated databases. Rootsweb has a 'post it' note feature where you can indicate an interest in a surname or offer further detail. I donated the Gouverneur Herald 'births, deaths, and marriages' to that site and have seen some cases where people have attached notes to some entries. My highest concern there is that people will change email addresses when they change internet providers and often leave a broken trail behind. I will now and then post notes recommending that people get one of the major free accounts (hotmail or yahoo) for example that are likely to be around for years to come. As you change internet providers, your email address remains the same. When you change providers, there is no requirement that you use their email address (ex. my provider now is Verizon but I've never used a Verizon email address). The church records transcriptions are not a primary source but can provide valuable clues. As much as possible, you want to visit courthouses, churches, town historians, and your oldest living relatives for good info. The best stuff is that which concurs with other independent sources. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland

The St Lawrence County Church records were transcribed but Russell Sprague and I have copies of the original records. If anyone wants a copy of the original page we are both able to furnish a copy. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PNUTREG@cs.com> To: <NYSTLAWR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] Re: St. Lawrence County Church Records Website > Brenda > > If errors were made in the transcription of any original record it takes > away > from it being acceptable or used for documentation. One cannot make a > correction (error in spelling could be due to lack of education in many > era's). That > original document has to remain as it was orignally written whether you > like > it or not. Once a transcription or original document has been rewritten or > transcribed differnetly it is Nil and Void as far as using it in a lineage > organization (also transcription cannot be used period), only proven > genealogical > information of proven value can be used as a record. So that is your all > that > you can use for your document whether you like it or not. > > To clarify for your information if the person who transcripted it for the > website changed it to their interprutation of what the spelling or any > thing else > should be that means it is no longer is considered as a document and > cannot > be used for any lineage organization and does not make your genealogical > record > authenic. > > Many of our well intented transcribers have decided it was their duty to > make > corrections or changes in genelogicial tanscriptions that they write up. > However it is not the correct way to do it. kWho has the authority to > determine > the difference in commision to do whatever. > > Good Luck > Pat R

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2RB.2ACE/8517.2 Message Board Post: I am looking for an Emmogene Covey who was born 27 Dec 1870 in Ellenburg, Clinton Co., NY and married Florian Morrison. So far, I have found her and her 5 siblings with William And Fanny Adelia Wells Covey. Also, for her mother-in-law, Mary Ann Covey, born 17 July 1848 in Quebec, Canada who married Florian's father Horace N. Morrison. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

At the bottom of the first page is a clickable 'mail to' link. It leads to me at hotmail. Please give it a try to let me know it works. Let me know the date and type of record and I can probably correct it this weekend. Good to know anyone is actually reading the records! Russ From: Beckernbecker@aol.com To: NYSTLAWR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] Re: St. Lawrence County Church Records Website Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:45:01 EDT Found the website, thanks for the right link! Okay, so how do I go about correcting a wrong error? For the methodist church in Governeur, my grandparents are listed as Merrill and Lillian Robinson Stone. It should be STORIE. Who would I contact to have this corrected? Thanks! Brenda

Brenda If errors were made in the transcription of any original record it takes away from it being acceptable or used for documentation. One cannot make a correction (error in spelling could be due to lack of education in many era's). That original document has to remain as it was orignally written whether you like it or not. Once a transcription or original document has been rewritten or transcribed differnetly it is Nil and Void as far as using it in a lineage organization (also transcription cannot be used period), only proven genealogical information of proven value can be used as a record. So that is your all that you can use for your document whether you like it or not. To clarify for your information if the person who transcripted it for the website changed it to their interprutation of what the spelling or any thing else should be that means it is no longer is considered as a document and cannot be used for any lineage organization and does not make your genealogical record authenic. Many of our well intented transcribers have decided it was their duty to make corrections or changes in genelogicial tanscriptions that they write up. However it is not the correct way to do it. kWho has the authority to determine the difference in commision to do whatever. Good Luck Pat R

Found the website, thanks for the right link! Okay, so how do I go about correcting a wrong error? For the methodist church in Governeur, my grandparents are listed as Merrill and Lillian Robinson Stone. It should be STORIE. Who would I contact to have this corrected? Thanks! Brenda

I just tried the link to St Lawrence County Churches and it worked fine for me. Barb L ----- Original Message ----- From: <nanna4em@yahoo.com> To: <NYSTLAWR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:29 PM Subject: [NYSTLAWR] Re: St. Lawrence County Church Records Website > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8466.2 > > Message Board Post: > > That link to St. Lawrence Church records doesn't seem to work. Any tips > for me?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8466.2.1 Message Board Post: I just tried it (I put all the records there) and it works as expected for me. I tried it directly from the previous email in this thread. If you do a google search 'church records of st lawrence county' that will display a working link. Note also that if you go to the county page for St. Lawrence county at www.usgenweb.org you can access the church records and *much* more including a transcription of the 1870 census, many cemetery records and newspaper records. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8466.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Hold up on the emails folks. Within 5 minutes of Tim's original note with the church webpage, he appended a CORRECTED one (look right below his first note...the one that says OOPS). The corrected one has the correct webpage which is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~stlawrchurch/index.html Anne Cady

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8466.3.1 Message Board Post: There must be something wrong with the address, I get a error message the page can not be found.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8466.3 Message Board Post: It does not work for me either.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8466.2 Message Board Post: That link to St. Lawrence Church records doesn't seem to work. Any tips for me?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Linendoll Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2RB.2ACE/8517.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you I already found that and many others on that site. It is a wonderful source of information.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8517.1 Message Board Post: http://news.nnyln.net/potsdam-herald-recorder/search.html type in the name linendoll and you will get an obit for Jane, wife of ensign. 1916

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Linendoll, Bell, St. Germaine, Garrow Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2RB.2ACE/8517 Message Board Post: I am researching the Linendoll family and recently I discovered they lived in Hopkintoin & Nicholvile. Jacob or Jason b. 1797 married Ruth and had Ensign who married Jane Knapp, and Walter who married Sarah and Sophia. Jonathan who married Angeline COvey. Jacob and Ruth are buried in Fort Jackson Cemetery. Walter moved to Iowa. Jonathan and Ensign remained in this area. Jonathan and Angeline had Emogene, Martin and William. I am have no clues as to what happened to them. Ensign and Jane had Ida, May and Bessie. Ida married Silas Bandy, May married George Brownell, and Bessie died young they are buried in Mound Hill cemetery. If anyone can help , I would greatly appreciate it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shoen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2RB.2ACE/8515.1 Message Board Post: Try using www.411.com. If they have a listed number, you will see the phone number and address. It helps to know what town they live in. If you don't know what town they live in you can search town by town. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8512.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Leslie..Here is the info I said I would get for you: Village Clerk Massena, NY E-Mail villageclerk@massenaworks.com Town Clerk E-Mail: townclerk@town.massena.ny.us The Village Clerk is Patricia Dumas and the Town Clerk is Georgette Davis I have phone numbers if you want them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2RB.2ACE/8516 Message Board Post: My name is Cherie George (Shoen). I am the daughter of Roger Shoen, and the granddaughter of Frederick and Jesse Shoen. A few of us are looking to put a family reunion together, but I can not find my uncle Roys children. Their names are Susan and Jeff. I am also looking for Shawn Glowacki who is the daughter of Linda McGee. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2RB.2ACE/8515 Message Board Post: My name is Cherie George (Shoen). I am the daughter of Roger Shoen, and the granddaughter of Frederick and Jesse Shoen. A few of us are looking to put a family reunion together, but I can not find my uncle Roys children. Their names are Susan and Jeff. I am also looking for Shawn Glowacki who is the daughter of Linda McGee. Thanks

I hope I'm not repeating anyone else's info here. I was away for a few days, had a big pile of emails to catch up with and deleted a few w/o reading them. By law, each NY state town has a town historian. If you go to the St. Lawrence county webpage at usgenweb.org, click 'places' then 'roster of officials' you can find the historian for Massena. I'm not sure if it is up to date but that list says Gloria S. Johnson, River Rd East, Morristown, NY 16664 is town historian for Massena. Phone is 315-375-6704. No email address is listed. It's pretty hard to find much prior to the civil war. If wills, probate and land records would help, they do date back to the county's formation in 1802 and they are indexed in large books at the county courthouse. The St. Lawrence county historical association could recommend a local researcher for hire if a trip to the county offices is not convenient. You might also try the LDS family history center at Potsdam for more info. I don't have their address and phone number at hand but go to www.familysearch.org and click on info for family history centers. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: "Bill and Leslie Mason" <bnl03055@yahoo.com> Reply-To: <bnl03055@yahoo.com> To: "'Russell Sprague'" <russxsprague@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [NYSTLAWR] Reuben Dutton Family Massena NY Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:53:21 -0400 Thank You very much for taking the time to find this information. I do appreciate it. I was hoping someone could tell me about the Rebecca Dutton who died in 1849. I am looking for a Rebecca Stearns from NH that MIGHT have married Reuben Dutton. Many times brothers from one family married sisters from another family. I am from the Stearns family and have a Dolly Stearns that married a Moses Dutton in NH. They went to Ft. Covington NY, Ill., and settled in Paw Paw Mich. Dolly had a sister, Rebekah, but I haven't been able to find her after 1820 in NH. Another sister Susan married a Crowell and had a son named Harvey. I found a record of him that said he went to Massena NY to visit his UNCLE, Reuben Dutton. It all makes sense. I found a Rebecca Dutton that died in 1849 in Massena and would like to think that is my Rebekah. I was hoping that Massena might have a town history book that might say where they came from, etc, Thanks agin, Leslie Stearns Mason -----Original Message----- From: Russell Sprague [mailto:russxsprague@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:39 PM To: bnl03055@yahoo.com; NYSTLAWR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYSTLAWR] Reuben Dutton Family Massena NY There is a transcription of the 1870 census at the county site under usgenweb.org. Click 'New York' then select a county and select St. Lawrence county. From that site clidk 'select a link' and choose census or 'anne cady'. There is a transcription of the 1880 census for the entire country at www.familysearch.org. Click 'advanced search' then 'census' then select the 1880 census. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: bnl03055@yahoo.com To: NYSTLAWR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYSTLAWR] Reuben Dutton Family Massena NY Date: 25 Apr 2006 07:12:41 -0600 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8512 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on the Reuben Dutton family who were in Massena in 1830 through 1870 at least. I think his wife was Rebecca. Any help will be appreciated.