Just an FYI....but I've found the death certificates to be a bit spotty between 1882 and 1900 or so.? I know they were supposed to keep them, but in my experience it can be hit or miss whether you find them or not.? Plus, when I've found one from that time-frame, the information seems very minimal (often not even parents names)..just name of deceased, age at death, and cause.? Hopefully you will have better luck.? I know I was very disappointed when I found my great grandfather's certificate.? I was hoping to learn where he was born, but it didn't even tell me.? He died in 1892 in St. Lawrence county. Starting around 1900 they seemed to go to a pretty good form across the state and the info is much more consistent. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Craig <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 1:41 pm Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] 1893 death certificate (McConkey) Sorry, I usually do list the surnames while doing online message boards but I just had a question regarding why I could not find a DC for her despite the fact it was 1893, 13 years past when NY began keeping records. The name I am looking for is McConkey. Her name was Mary Mathilde (Matilda) McConkey. She died in June of 1893. She was born in Canada, but I know she died in Ogdensburg (or Oswegatchie), so there is no mystery there. Thank you for responding, Marilyn Craig On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:23 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Marilyn, > > If you listed your gg grandmother's someone might recognize the > family and offer you > assistance. Also the area of the county where she lived might be of > help also. > > Hope you find some information concerning her and her family. It > can be very > frustrating hitting roadblocks in your searching. > > Eleanor > > > > > ------- Original Message ------- >> From : Marilyn Craig[mailto:[email protected]] > Sent : 1/19/2009 10:38:55 AM > To : [email protected] > Cc : > Subject : RE: Re: [NYSTLAWR] death certificate > > I am wondering why I can not find a death certificate for my gg > grandmother who died in 1893 in Ogdensburg, NY? > > It was well beyond the 1880 benchmark for keeping vital records. I > have gone to City Hall in Ogdensburg looking for this one and another > one, also well beyond the time frame. I wasted $44 (because you pay > for the search, not the finding of the document). > > I really wasted 2 days, plus the cost of the hotel accommodations > since I found absolutely nothing that I was after. I spent an > afternoon also in Canton in the center library, and while the > employees were very helpful I found nothing I didn't already know. > > It wasn't really a waste because the area is beautiful, and from my > room I had a wonderful view of the St. Lawrence River and I had some > alone time, but I had planned on finding out things and then taking > that information across the border to Canada to find out more. Who > else might have records where I might find a death certificate. > > Someone suggested I look in Oswegatchie, but I drove through there and > saw nothing that resembled a building where public records might be > kept, just some random buildings, mostly farm houses and the like. > > Can someone help me? > > Marilyn Craiig > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I usually do list the surnames while doing online message boards but I just had a question regarding why I could not find a DC for her despite the fact it was 1893, 13 years past when NY began keeping records. The name I am looking for is McConkey. Her name was Mary Mathilde (Matilda) McConkey. She died in June of 1893. She was born in Canada, but I know she died in Ogdensburg (or Oswegatchie), so there is no mystery there. Thank you for responding, Marilyn Craig On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:23 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Marilyn, > > If you listed your gg grandmother's someone might recognize the > family and offer you > assistance. Also the area of the county where she lived might be of > help also. > > Hope you find some information concerning her and her family. It > can be very > frustrating hitting roadblocks in your searching. > > Eleanor > > > > > ------- Original Message ------- >> From : Marilyn Craig[mailto:[email protected]] > Sent : 1/19/2009 10:38:55 AM > To : [email protected] > Cc : > Subject : RE: Re: [NYSTLAWR] death certificate > > I am wondering why I can not find a death certificate for my gg > grandmother who died in 1893 in Ogdensburg, NY? > > It was well beyond the 1880 benchmark for keeping vital records. I > have gone to City Hall in Ogdensburg looking for this one and another > one, also well beyond the time frame. I wasted $44 (because you pay > for the search, not the finding of the document). > > I really wasted 2 days, plus the cost of the hotel accommodations > since I found absolutely nothing that I was after. I spent an > afternoon also in Canton in the center library, and while the > employees were very helpful I found nothing I didn't already know. > > It wasn't really a waste because the area is beautiful, and from my > room I had a wonderful view of the St. Lawrence River and I had some > alone time, but I had planned on finding out things and then taking > that information across the border to Canada to find out more. Who > else might have records where I might find a death certificate. > > Someone suggested I look in Oswegatchie, but I drove through there and > saw nothing that resembled a building where public records might be > kept, just some random buildings, mostly farm houses and the like. > > Can someone help me? > > Marilyn Craiig > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I suspect the person you are looking for died in the town of Oswegatchie which is where Ogdensburg is located.? The town offices for Oswegatchie are in Heuvelton (about 10 miles east of Ogdensburg).? Here is the info for the Oswegatchie Town Clerk. TOWN OF OSWEGATCHIE Heuvelton Town Hall: 51 State Street Heuvelton Town Hall: 51 State Street Fax Number: (315) 344-1246 e-mail: [email protected] [email protected] Clerk & Tax Collector Janet M. Wheater (R) ................................................ 344-2400 51 State St., PO Box 134 Heuvelton NY 13654 Also, just for future reference, the Ogdensburg Library is a wonderful resource.? They have a nice genealogy area upstairs and also have folders of information on tons of families from the area.? The staff is also extremely helpful. Hope this helps, Anne Cady -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Craig <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:37 am Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] death certificate Thanks Barb. I live in Buffalo and the library is not far from my home. My question is, why would Buffalo have it and not Ogdensburg where she died? They didn't tell me that I could find out from microfilm who has the record. Seems as if they would have told me that since I had paid money for the record and they didn't find it there. I wasn't too happy with Ogdensburg City Hall for that. Seems as if someone could have steered me to that microfilm, or looked there themselves while looking for the paper record. Oh well. It's easy to go to the library here. I really do not see why the $44 either. I understand that we are paying for the time of the employee who looks it up, but it took her all of 15 minutes to come back and tell me they were not there, and I'm sure she does not make $44 every 15 minutes. I know genealogy can be a costly hobby between subscriptions for fee based sites and the joining of societies to do lookups and paying other genealogists to do a little searching. It's cheaper than trips and hotel rooms but quite draining and frustrating when they can't find information either. Sorry for the rant, but I am VERY frustrated over not finding these ancestors despite all my efforts and it is getting to me. I'll take you up on yur suggestion though, and I thank you for it. Marilyn On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Ok, Go to your library and see if they have the microfilm for the > births, marriages and deaths for New York state, if you live in New > York. Buffalo and Rochester has it for sure, as I lived in both > places > and was able to find alot of my family there. If it was recorded, it > will show the date and the place. It is possible that your family > member didn't pass away where you were told they did. I found that > out > myself that some of the information was off a bit. good luck, Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marilyn Craig <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] death certificate > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering why I can not find a death certificate for my gg > grandmother who died in 1893 in Ogdensburg, NY? > > It was well beyond the 1880 benchmark for keeping vital records. I > have gone to City Hall in Ogdensburg looking for this one and another > one, also well beyond the time frame. I wasted $44 (because you pay > for the search, not the finding of the document). > > I really wasted 2 days, plus the cost of the hotel accommodations > since I found absolutely nothing that I was after. I spent an > afternoon also in Canton in the center library, and while the > employees were very helpful I found nothing I didn't already know. > > It wasn't really a waste because the area is beautiful, and from my > room I had a wonderful view of the St. Lawrence River and I had some > alone time, but I had planned on finding out things and then taking > that information across the border to Canada to find out more. Who > else might have records where I might find a death certificate. > > Someone suggested I look in Oswegatchie, but I drove through there and > saw nothing that resembled a building where public records might be > kept, just some random buildings, mostly farm houses and the like. > > Can someone help me? > > Marilyn Craiig > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Barb. I live in Buffalo and the library is not far from my home. My question is, why would Buffalo have it and not Ogdensburg where she died? They didn't tell me that I could find out from microfilm who has the record. Seems as if they would have told me that since I had paid money for the record and they didn't find it there. I wasn't too happy with Ogdensburg City Hall for that. Seems as if someone could have steered me to that microfilm, or looked there themselves while looking for the paper record. Oh well. It's easy to go to the library here. I really do not see why the $44 either. I understand that we are paying for the time of the employee who looks it up, but it took her all of 15 minutes to come back and tell me they were not there, and I'm sure she does not make $44 every 15 minutes. I know genealogy can be a costly hobby between subscriptions for fee based sites and the joining of societies to do lookups and paying other genealogists to do a little searching. It's cheaper than trips and hotel rooms but quite draining and frustrating when they can't find information either. Sorry for the rant, but I am VERY frustrated over not finding these ancestors despite all my efforts and it is getting to me. I'll take you up on yur suggestion though, and I thank you for it. Marilyn On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Ok, Go to your library and see if they have the microfilm for the > births, marriages and deaths for New York state, if you live in New > York. Buffalo and Rochester has it for sure, as I lived in both > places > and was able to find alot of my family there. If it was recorded, it > will show the date and the place. It is possible that your family > member didn't pass away where you were told they did. I found that > out > myself that some of the information was off a bit. good luck, Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marilyn Craig <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] death certificate > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering why I can not find a death certificate for my gg > grandmother who died in 1893 in Ogdensburg, NY? > > It was well beyond the 1880 benchmark for keeping vital records. I > have gone to City Hall in Ogdensburg looking for this one and another > one, also well beyond the time frame. I wasted $44 (because you pay > for the search, not the finding of the document). > > I really wasted 2 days, plus the cost of the hotel accommodations > since I found absolutely nothing that I was after. I spent an > afternoon also in Canton in the center library, and while the > employees were very helpful I found nothing I didn't already know. > > It wasn't really a waste because the area is beautiful, and from my > room I had a wonderful view of the St. Lawrence River and I had some > alone time, but I had planned on finding out things and then taking > that information across the border to Canada to find out more. Who > else might have records where I might find a death certificate. > > Someone suggested I look in Oswegatchie, but I drove through there and > saw nothing that resembled a building where public records might be > kept, just some random buildings, mostly farm houses and the like. > > Can someone help me? > > Marilyn Craiig > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Marilyn, If you listed your gg grandmother's someone might recognize the family and offer you assistance. Also the area of the county where she lived might be of help also. Hope you find some information concerning her and her family. It can be very frustrating hitting roadblocks in your searching. Eleanor ------- Original Message ------- >From : Marilyn Craig[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 1/19/2009 10:38:55 AM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [NYSTLAWR] death certificate I am wondering why I can not find a death certificate for my gg grandmother who died in 1893 in Ogdensburg, NY? It was well beyond the 1880 benchmark for keeping vital records. I have gone to City Hall in Ogdensburg looking for this one and another one, also well beyond the time frame. I wasted $44 (because you pay for the search, not the finding of the document). I really wasted 2 days, plus the cost of the hotel accommodations since I found absolutely nothing that I was after. I spent an afternoon also in Canton in the center library, and while the employees were very helpful I found nothing I didn't already know. It wasn't really a waste because the area is beautiful, and from my room I had a wonderful view of the St. Lawrence River and I had some alone time, but I had planned on finding out things and then taking that information across the border to Canada to find out more. Who else might have records where I might find a death certificate. Someone suggested I look in Oswegatchie, but I drove through there and saw nothing that resembled a building where public records might be kept, just some random buildings, mostly farm houses and the like. Can someone help me? Marilyn Craiig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ok, Go to your library and see if they have the microfilm for the births, marriages and deaths for New York state, if you live in New York. Buffalo and Rochester has it for sure, as I lived in both places and was able to find alot of my family there. If it was recorded, it will show the date and the place. It is possible that your family member didn't pass away where you were told they did. I found that out myself that some of the information was off a bit. good luck, Barb -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Craig <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 8:38 am Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] death certificate I am wondering why I can not find a death certificate for my gg grandmother who died in 1893 in Ogdensburg, NY? It was well beyond the 1880 benchmark for keeping vital records. I have gone to City Hall in Ogdensburg looking for this one and another one, also well beyond the time frame. I wasted $44 (because you pay for the search, not the finding of the document). I really wasted 2 days, plus the cost of the hotel accommodations since I found absolutely nothing that I was after. I spent an afternoon also in Canton in the center library, and while the employees were very helpful I found nothing I didn't already know. It wasn't really a waste because the area is beautiful, and from my room I had a wonderful view of the St. Lawrence River and I had some alone time, but I had planned on finding out things and then taking that information across the border to Canada to find out more. Who else might have records where I might find a death certificate. Someone suggested I look in Oswegatchie, but I drove through there and saw nothing that resembled a building where public records might be kept, just some random buildings, mostly farm houses and the like. Can someone help me? Marilyn Craiig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering why I can not find a death certificate for my gg grandmother who died in 1893 in Ogdensburg, NY? It was well beyond the 1880 benchmark for keeping vital records. I have gone to City Hall in Ogdensburg looking for this one and another one, also well beyond the time frame. I wasted $44 (because you pay for the search, not the finding of the document). I really wasted 2 days, plus the cost of the hotel accommodations since I found absolutely nothing that I was after. I spent an afternoon also in Canton in the center library, and while the employees were very helpful I found nothing I didn't already know. It wasn't really a waste because the area is beautiful, and from my room I had a wonderful view of the St. Lawrence River and I had some alone time, but I had planned on finding out things and then taking that information across the border to Canada to find out more. Who else might have records where I might find a death certificate. Someone suggested I look in Oswegatchie, but I drove through there and saw nothing that resembled a building where public records might be kept, just some random buildings, mostly farm houses and the like. Can someone help me? Marilyn Craiig

Are there any descendants of James Foster Brownell or his brothers still living in the St Lawrence county? If so, I would like to be in contact with them. Barb Stahr Rochester, New York

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tinamarieshepperd17 Surnames: Moss, Collar Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/5808.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Also researching Washington Elias Moss and Rosetta Collar. Contact me to share information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NADJBurns Surnames: Boutilier, Butler, ODell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/1158.3074/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Your posting listed surname Boutilier. Can you help me? My gggrandfather was Camille/Campbell/Cornelius Butler/Boutilier born about 1808 in New York. His wife was Julia ODell born about 1815 in New York. Oral family history says they lived in St. Lawrence County, New York, before moving to Rochester, NY in 1830s, and later Muskegon, MI in 1850s. Any info appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sllewkcalb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16276/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking information about a Mennonite church in the Massena area. I have a church pew that is likely from it. It is approx. from 1850 to turn of the century. Attaching picture. Any info. or possible church name would be appreciated. I am craving more of a history on this piece. The fact that it is in my home in California means it has a great story! Much Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Adrienne Sundquist wrote: > Hello Jeanne, > Have you checked the Adams Co. Court House. they have all the old record books and were very nice to me and let me into the record room when ever I wanted. Also had a copy machine I could use. It could be that they would look up things for you... wish I was closer... but am now far away. jeanne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jee44 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/4443.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a connection with Robert Lowe and his wife Jane Sellis Lowe. They were my great great grandparents. Their oldest daughter,also Jane Sellis Lowe but known as Jeanie, was my great grandmother. The name Sellis originated from Jane sellis born in Leslie in 1835 to Edward Stephen Sellis and Jane Paterson. Edward was born in Greenwich, England and worked as a coachman to Robert Douglas esq at his country house, Strathendry in Leslie, Fife.He was born about 1808 to William and Mary Sellis. Jane Paterson was born 11th February 1802 to John Paterson and Alison White. She came from Garvald, south east of Edinburgh Edward Sellis and Jane paterson were married in 1830 in Govan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Jeanne, I'm fairly certain that there are no families with the Patterson name remaining in that area. At least not from this line. There were two sons, one of whom never married or had children to pass the name on to, and the other relocated further west. The Pettersons must be another family entirely. I also so no other Pattersons or Pettersons in the cemetery at Big Flats when I visited over Thanksgiving, so I suspect that this was a family that ended up in the area with no additional contacts; ultimately making it even harder to track them down. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009

For those who are unaware, there is a transcribed version of the 1890 civil war census for St. Lawrence county on my webpage. I transcribed it from microfilm and put it online back in early 2001. The location (as usual) is: _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stlawgen/index.HTM_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stlawgen/index.HTM) Look under the Census records section. It is right under the 1870 census that I did before it. Anne Cady **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews00000002)

Hello everyone.  I ran across this the other day and thought that it looked interesting.  The 1890 Civl War census is now available on CD rom for St. Lawrence county.  Here is the link if you want to check it out, especially if you have ancestors that served in the Civil War.   http://cgi.ebay.com/1890-Civil-War-census-St-Lawrence-county-New-York_W0QQitemZ350149560582QQihZ022QQcategoryZ20927QQcmdZViewItem    I hope this helps someone!   Stanley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burtsong1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/8023.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am Silas's great great great grandson. What is the pattent of as I have one of his inventions Thanks Ron Burt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aesund Surnames: Patterson, Proper, Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16275/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello All, I may have posted here previously, but am trying again in the hopes that someone may be able to help me locate parents for James Patterson if given additional information. James Patterson is listed in most documents as having a birthdate in 1827, on his military records as having a BD of 1837. He was married to Martha Proper in Malone in 1847, with his residence being listed as Potsdam on the marriage records. In all records thereafter, I find Martha and their daughter Emily living in Malone with her parents. It appears for all practical purposes that she and James were not sharing a residence. James Patterson enlisted in the Union Army in Potsdam in 1861 for a duration of 3 yrs, but was discharged in 1863 d/t illness. On his enlistment papers, his residence was listed as being Potsdam, NY and his occupation was listed as "farmer". At some point after this, James moved to WI near the area of Big Flats. He obtained a divorce from Martha in Waupaca, WI in 1867 (again no evidence that she moved with him) and married Susan Brown that same year. They had 6 children. James died in 1908 and is buried in the Big Flats cemetery. I have no names for James's parents, but on census records, their birth places are alternately listed as NH and NY for his father and VT and NY for his mother. I continue to be at an impasse with this issue, but remain hopeful that eventually, this might ring a bell with someone else out there! Many thanks, Adrienne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SamuelWattles Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/4871.1.2.2.2.1.2.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the learning tip. I have no other information at all. I'm simply trying to identify who this particular Edwin Wattles is (who has popped up in my research efforts to try and identify ALL Wattles folks)-- there's so many Edwins for my 80 year old pea brain. [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I lived in Big Flats for many years and the only Pattersons that were there came to that area after retirement in Milwaukee W. there are lots of Pettersons there now and in the past. could they have changed the spelling of the name jlc