I don't have a Bieber, but I notice in your list a Van Eps. I have a Lansing W. Van Epps, son of Samuel and Helen (Teller). He died probably in Albany on April 6, 1896. Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 10/25/2004 4:52:49 PM Mountain Standard Time, kathyshouse@mindspring.com writes: Is there anyone on the list who is researching the family of John Bieber who lived in Schenectady in 1880-1900? Kathy List Administrator for: STEVENS-NY, JOHNSON-NY, FL-CITRUS Florida http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnsonnewyork http://terri9.home.mindspring.com/Stevens/Stevens.htm Researching: Jost, Petry, Peter, Freunscht, Koob, Moller, Schroeder, Urban Holton, Welsh, Springsteel, Stinson, Hard, Whelan Graham, White/Whyte, Robertson, Earston Johnson, Stevens, Glen, Mabie/Mabee,Bradt,Peek, Sanders, Van Dyke, Van Eps, Van Patten, Van Slyke, Van Vorst, Wendel Davis, Folts, Lott, Sutphin, Lapdon