Hello Everyone: I am looking for my ggg grandparents and their family in Schenectady County in the early 1800s. Some sources lists their children as born in Schenectady County and some in Cayuga and Livingston Counties. Catharina A. Wiederwachs “Weatherwax” (female): She was born on July 04, 1789, in Pittstown Township, Rensselaer County, New York, United States of America, North America. She was Christened on July 26,1789, in Gilead Center Evangelical Church in Brunswick, Rensselaer County, New York, United States of America, North America. She married Abraham“Abram” Duryea, Sr., in church, town, county, state. She died about July 11, 1867, in the Town of Nunda, Livingston County, New York, United States of America, North America. She was buried in Oakwood Cemetery in the Village of Nunda, Town of Nunda, Livingston County, New York, United States of America, North America. She was the daughter of Jacob Wiederwachs “Weatherwax” and Catharina Grauberger. Gravestone: Her gravestone reads “CATHARINE A. DURYEE”; “HIS WIFE”; “DIED JULY (NOT LEGIBLE); “AGED 78 YRS 7 MOS”. Abraham “Abram” Duryea, Sr. (male): He was born on October 28, 1790, in Somerset County, New Jersey, United States of America, North America. He married Catharina A. Wiederwachs “Weatherwax” in church, town, county, state . He died on November 28, 1868, in the Town of Mount Morris, Livingston County, New York, United States of America, North America. He was buried in Oakwood Cemetery in the Village of Nunda, Town of Nunda, Livingston County, New York, United States of America, North America. He was the son of Frederick Duryee, Sr., and Geertje “Charity” Sutphen. Gravestone: His gravestone in Oakwood Cemetery reads “ABRAHAM DURYEE”; “DIED NOV. 28, 1868”; “AGED 79 YRS 1 MO”. Last Will and Testament: Last Will & Testament probated in Livingston County Surrogates Court under file no. 2632, volume 9, page 81 Migration: They had “probably” moved from the Schenectady County to Cayuga County, New York, area to Livingston County, New York, by 1822, when their third child, Gilbert S. Duryee, was born. Children of Abraham “Abram” Duryea, Sr., and Catharina Wiederwachs “Weatherwax” were five males and two females: Sarah Ann Duryee (female): She was born in 1817 in Cayuga County, New York, United States of America, North America.There is no record of a marriage.The date and location of her death and burial are unknown. Stephen Van Rensselaer Duryee (male): He was born about 1818 in Oneida County, New York, United States of America, North America. He married (1) Rachel M??????? in church, town, county, state. He married (2) Susan Higgins on February 20, 1858, in Elgin County, Ontario, Canada, North America. He died on October 11, 1876, in Malahide Township, Ontario, Canada. The location of his death and burial are unknown. Eliza C. Duryee (female): She was born between 1820-1821. Gilbert S. Duryee (male): He was born about 1822 in Livingston County, New York, United States of America, North America. He married (1) Abigail J. (unknown) about 1845, in church, town, county, state. He married (2) Celinda A. Holland on April 05, 1871, in church, town, county, state. The date and location of his death and burial are unknown. Abraham Henry Duryee, Jr. (male): He was born on August 21, 1825, in Livingston County, New York, United States of America, North America. He married (1) Laura Ann Moore on October 08, 1854, in church, town, county, state. He married (2) Sarah Daniels on July 17, or June 19, 1873, in church in Newbury, Mosa Township, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada, North America. He died on October 03, 1899, in Newbury, Mosa Township, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada, North America. John Jay Duryee (male): He was born on July 26, 1827, in Livingston County, New York, United States of America, North America. He married Lydia Matilda Thomas on July 01,1850, in church, town, county, state. He died on November 07, 1900, in Ripley, Chautaugua County, New York, United States of America, North America. He was buried on November 10, 1900, in Evergreen Cemetery, Union City, Erie County, New York, United States of America, North America. Andrew S. Duryee (male): He was born on October 11, 1830, in the Town of Avon, Livingston County, New York, United States of America, North America. He married Mary Ann North in church,town, county, state. He died on July 04, 1900, in McIntire Township, Mitchell County, Iowa, United States of America, North America. The location of his burial is unknown. This family migrated from Somerset County, New Jersey, to Schenectady and then to Cayuga County and then to Livingston County in the early 1800s. I would appreciate any help anyone may have. In Christ, Ron Powell Nunda Livingston County New York

Thanks everyone for your input. I should have made myself clearer. I was looking for the meaning of 'com'. The word 'sic' was in reference to the word 'com' to let you know that is how the word was spelled. I believe the word means 'communicant'. If Jane ELIZA Johnson is who I believe she is, she was 17 years old in 1820 and old enough to join on her own, thus becoming a 'communicant' in the church. Perhaps because of her father's death a year or two earlier and the Great Fire in 1819, she now was attending St. George's regularly and thus became an official member. Melissa

Is there anyone that could look up my grandfather in this county about 1940s? His name was Donald William HAvener. His wife was Clara Branson.I am interested in any Haveners one can locate..

"Jane Elizabeth Johnson, com (sic) 20, October 1820" The record is out of context. It may have been part of list of members of the church. 'com' is an abbreviation for communicant. A communicant was allowed to participate in the communion celebration. The date may have been the date of becoming a member. I don't know if a person could be a member and not yet be allowed to take communion, but I get that impression from some lists that I have seen. If new members were not allowed to automatically participate in communion, then they probably had to take some religious instruction first. The 'com' may have been added after the recorded date, once the member was an official communicant. [This paragraph is a lot of guesswork on my part.] (sic) is usually used by me and others immediately following something that was transcribed or typed, and that might make the reader of it wonder if the transcriber/typist made an error. It is used to indicate that it was that way in the original and not an error that occurred during the transfer of data from one format to another. For example, when quoting a record of a person baptized in 1856, the transcription might give a birthdate in 1865. This is an impossible combination of dates. Yet, if you are writing something, you have to quote the source accurately. A (sic) after the 1865 would alert the person to some sort of problem, but does not necessarily mean that the 1865 is wrong. Taken out of context, either date could be wrong. However, if I knew that record came from a page of 1865 baptisms, I would put the (sic) after the 1856 because I would know that that one is the incorrect date. That way, the reader can make the assumption that the transcriber had transposed the 5 and 6 during the writing or typing of the baptism date. >From this discussion, you can see that (sic) was not part of the original record. It was added by someone who probably didn't know what 'com' meant in that context, and wanted to indicate to his- or herself or others that it really was there exactly that way. (sic) might be used sometimes after a word that is misspelled by modern standards, but not in a deed where words with non-modern spellings were common. It would soon get tiring if too many (sic)'s interrupted the text. In my own record keeping, I recently had a situation where two people in a row were baptized on different dates, but a book showed them as born on the same date. I put (sic) after the second birth date to show myself that I didn't just look at the wrong line when copying the date. It is possible that the person who transcribed the records could have looked at the wrong line, however. If the date is important enough to me, I'd have to look at the original record or images of it. Cliff Majohnson1737@cs.com wrote: > Does anyone know the meaning of the following record notation at St. Georg'es > Church in Schenectady? > > "Jane Elizabeth Johnson, com (sic) 20, October 1820" > > Thanks, > Melissa

first communion?? Butch ----- Original Message ----- From: Majohnson1737@cs.com To: NYSCHENE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:46 AM Subject: [NYSCHENE] Meaning of Church notations Does anyone know the meaning of the following record notation at St. Georg'es Church in Schenectady? "Jane Elizabeth Johnson, com (sic) 20, October 1820" Thanks, Melissa ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Does anyone know the meaning of the following record notation at St. Georg'es Church in Schenectady? "Jane Elizabeth Johnson, com (sic) 20, October 1820" Thanks, Melissa

Hello-William M. Holton is listed as being born in Montgomery Co., age 50, works as an express agent, lived in city 14 years, married (Fanny, age 49, born Montgomery), child Maria, age 18 born in Schoharie. This is in the 2nd ward of the city of Schenectady. Virginia LaGoy, SCHS Kathy Jost-Shouse wrote: > Is there anyone that might have access to the 1855 Schenectady Census that > could look up the surname Holton for me. > > I am mostly interested in William M. Holton and the entry of where he was > born. > > Thank you so much for your help. > > Kathy > http://terri9.home.mindspring.com > > Researching: Jost, Schroeder, Moller, Petry, Peter, Koob, Freunscht > Holton, Welsh, Graham, Whyte/White, Stinson, Springsteel, Hard, Whelan, > Johnson, Davis, Stevens, Van Patten, Folts, Mabie, Sutphen, Lobden/Lapdon > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Is there anyone that might have access to the 1855 Schenectady Census that could look up the surname Holton for me. I am mostly interested in William M. Holton and the entry of where he was born. Thank you so much for your help. Kathy http://terri9.home.mindspring.com Researching: Jost, Schroeder, Moller, Petry, Peter, Koob, Freunscht Holton, Welsh, Graham, Whyte/White, Stinson, Springsteel, Hard, Whelan, Johnson, Davis, Stevens, Van Patten, Folts, Mabie, Sutphen, Lobden/Lapdon

My only brickwall: ROBI(N)SON, Robert (W?) b. March 25, 1786. Still looking for this gent. He was a sawyer by trade. He is in the 1810 census in Schenectady, NY, living with 4 other free "lads." Can anyone connect these??? Jan Robison Sanford, FL 1810 census - City of Schenectady, New York - First Ward: Robinson, Robert (#00028); All Other Free Persons: 5 1830 census - Portage, Allegheny Co., NY for R. W. Robinson: 2 boys under 5 (Unnamed and Cameron); 1 boy 10 & under 15 (Unnamed); 1 girl 5 & under 10 (Unnamed); 1 girl 10 & under 15 (Mary Ann). 1840 census - Hornellsville, Steuben Co., NY for Robert Robinson: 1 boy under 5 (Silas); 1 boy 10 & under 15 (Cameron; other boy child had to have died before the 1840 census); 2 boys 15 & under 20 (Thomas and Benjamin; missing from 1830 census); 1 girl under 5 (Ada); 1 girl 5 & under 10 (Amy); 2 girls 10 & under 15 (Unnamed) 1850 census - Hornellsville, Steuben Co., NY for Robert Robinson, b. Rhode Island, Sawyer: Cameron, age 21; Amy, age 17; Ada, age 14; Silas, age 11; Robert R., age 8; and Henry, age 6. 1860 census - Fremont, Steuben Co., NY for Robert Robinson, b. Massachusetts, Day Laborer: Robert, age 18; Henry, age 16. 1865 Hornellsville census: 271-298; Log House; Robert Robinson (age illegible); born RI; laborer; 15 children; married once; now married.....Cynthia Robinson; 66; born Chenango Co.; ....Henry B. Robinson; 21; born Steuben Co. Obviously, no one really knew where Robert was born. Henry's death certificate states Robert was born in Scotland. Died: Robinson - Near Hornellsville on the 9th. Robert Robinson aged 82 years, 2months and 14 days. Funeral at the M.E. Church, Thursday, 11th, 2 PM. June 9th 1868. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

Cliff, thanks for adding the suggestion that people try the localities first. I have been directing folks to the State Health Dept. because participants on one of my other lists have been completely unsuccessful in even getting a response from one of the localities. Always best to start local.

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What a find! In reading an article on Salon.com about a Supreme Court copyright case, I learned about this tremendous publishing company that focuses on genealogical and historical works -- they even have available the History of Essex County that I have featured pieces of on my website. (Yes, I will be ordering a copy immediately, and yes, I will share information from it with everyone.) Thought you all might like to know. http://www.higginsonbooks.com/

Since the NYS Health Dept. takes 6-8 months to send out certificates of vital records, it would be better to deal locally with the offices that sent the records to the state. They only take two weeks if you can find the right one. Schenectady is a very small county, so the places to look are limited. Cliff Carl Johnson wrote: > Marion, if you are not successful with Schenectady County, also try the > New York State Health Department Vital Records Page, at > http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/consumer/vr.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Marion, if you are not successful with Schenectady County, also try the New York State Health Department Vital Records Page, at http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/consumer/vr.htm

Thanks for the advice and the site. Marion >Marion, if you are not successful with Schenectady County, also try the >New York State Health Department Vital Records Page, at >http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/consumer/vr.htm > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

>The NYState Archives does not have the State vital record certificates, only >the index. The local records are not county records, but filed in the city or >town where the death took place. If the person died in the city of >Schenectady, contact the City Clerk, City Hall, Jay St. Schenectady, 12305. >If it took place in one of the towns, then the Town Clerk, in the Town Hall. >If the person died in a hospital, it would be in the city. Ann More detailed information about records at the city clerk's office may be found at <http://www.scpl.org/cityclerk.html>. Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org Schenectady Digital History Archive http://www.schenectadyhistory.org

Ann, Thank you. Marion >The NYState Archives does not have the State vital record certificates, only >the index. The local records are not county records, but filed in the city or >town where the death took place. If the person died in the city of >Schenectady, contact the City Clerk, City Hall, Jay St. Schenectady, 12305. >If it took place in one of the towns, then the Town Clerk, in the Town Hall. >If the person died in a hospital, it would be in the city. Ann > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The NYState Archives does not have the State vital record certificates, only the index. The local records are not county records, but filed in the city or town where the death took place. If the person died in the city of Schenectady, contact the City Clerk, City Hall, Jay St. Schenectady, 12305. If it took place in one of the towns, then the Town Clerk, in the Town Hall. If the person died in a hospital, it would be in the city. Ann

Since the NY State Archives will not accept requests for DCs received by mail, can I order one from Schenectady County? I checked their web site and was unable to click through to a genealogy link. My husband's mother died in 1932, when he was less than a year old. I have the date of her death from the cemetery but we don't know when or where she was born. Marion Markham

Greetings All! This is just a re-post from yesterday, seems my last post was not as clear as it could have been. I apologize for that, I'm running around trying to keep track of 8 things at once! LOL! Here's who I'm looking for. I have two newspaper articles on Nelson J. DARLING, one he is being named an Executive Head of the Lynn, MA General Electric Works. The other is his obituary. The obit states Nelson J. Darling was b. 8/7/1884 Toronto, Canada to Henry W. DARLING and Helen RITCHIE (CHRISTIE). Survivors were his wife Jeanette, daughter Phyllis DARLING, son Nelson J. DARLING. Other survivors were his three sisters, Mrs. E.O. WARNER of Narberth, PA. Mrs. Arthur W. HENSHAW and Mrs. R. W. COGGSHALL both of Schenectady (I believe NY). Two brothers, H. W. DARLING who lived in Bronxville, NY and A. Grameme DARLING also of Schenectady. Henry W. DARLING (the father) had ties to Lynn, MA. The article states that Nelson J. Darling is no stranger to Lynn, for his boyhood summer vacations were spent in this city. Nelson J. Darling worked at General Electric in Erie, PA before coming to work in MA. He also worked for GE in Schenectady and worked on the Panama Canal. Any information on these lines is greatly appreciated. I would like to correspond with anyone researching these or any other DARLING lines. Thanks, Lisa