According to Stone and Stewart's 1866 "Atlas of Saratoga County, NY", Victory Mills was in the "Dovegat Lott". The "Dovegat Lott" was a large area on the western bank of the Hudson River that had been created when the original Patentees took possession of the Saratoga Patent c. 1684. Apparently the original Patentees created lots from the flat lands lying on either side of the Hudson River and held the remaining acreage as tenants in common until the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent was established using John R. Bleecker's survey of 1750. If you poke around in the NY roots web archives on the internet, you should find a copy of John R. Bleecker's 1750-survey, which I sent to the site administrator for posting quite a few years ago. Basically, the Dovegat Lott has all of the Hudson River frontage from Great lott 22 to Great Lott 28. The present day Town of Saratoga runs north from the Great Lott 17/18 boundary line to beyond the north boundary of Great lott 28. I do not know how many proprietors held property in the Dovegat as yet. I know that General Philip Schuyler controlled a large section of the Dovegat near the junction of the Fishkill (now called Fish Creek) and the Hudson River, but I do not know if he controlled all of it. My research in the Saratoga Patent is a work in progress. I hope that his helps. Leslie in Pennsylvania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van Dyck,patentee o... > hi, do you know what lot #'s victory mills was ? bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:56 PM > Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van > Dyck,patentee o... > > >> Hi Richard, >> >> After reading your note, it occurrs to me that maybe I am being too >> narrow >> in my interpertation of the data. >> >> According to George W. Schuyler, Dirck Ten Broeck, Gilbert Livingston, >> Gerrit Van Horn, Margart Vetch , Philip J. Schuyler, the Executor of John >> Schuyler, Jr., and Margaret Livingston all signed a petition requesting >> that >> the lands held in common in the Saratoga Patent be partitioned. The >> date >> of the petition was 1743. George Schuyler says that Cornelius Van Dyck >> and >> Jan Janse Bleecker did not sign this petition. I assumed from George >> Schuyler's statement, that Cornelius Van Dyck was still alive in 1743. >> My >> assumption may be dead wrong. >> >> George Schuyler also says that in 1750 John R. Bleecker surveyed the >> Saratoga Patent and subdivided the lands that had previously been held by >> tenants in common. The 750-Bleecker plat was "executed" in 1752 and >> "recorded" in 1763. >> >> The Proprietors of the Saratoga Patent who agreed with the Bleecker >> survey >> and signed off on it were: >> >> 1. John Glen for the heirs of Jan Janse Bleecker; >> 2. Killian De Ridder* for the heirs of Cornelius Van Dyck; >> 3. Gerardus Groesbeck for the heirs of Dirck Wessels [Ten Broeck] >> 4. John Van Rensselaer for the hirs of Peter Schuyler; >> 5. Robert Livingston; and >> 6. Johannes Schuyler. >> >> So do you have a Cornelius Van Dyck who died close to 1743? Or do you >> have >> a Cornelius Van Dyck, who died between 1743 and 1752? If you do, do you >> know who his heirs were? Did any of the Van Dycks in your database ever >> settle in the Saratoga Patent? >> >> *According to Jane Betsey Willing, On July 19, 1768, Killian De Ridder >> sold >> Great Lotts 38 & 47 of the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent >> to >> Jacob G. Van Schaick. According to the plat of the Second Grand Division >> of >> the Saratoga Patent, Lott 38 & 47 were assigned to Cornelius Van Dyck. >> (Willing, They Were Here Too, Volume 2 page 17) So that accounts for 2 >> of >> Cornelius Van Dyck's 7 Great Lotts. Two down and five to go. >> >> Thanks again for your help. >> >> Leslie >> Glen Mills, PA >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Hayes" <RAHayes@chartermi.net> >> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van >> Dyck,patentee o... >> >> >>> Hi Leslie, >>> >>> I have 6 Cornelis Van Dycks in my file, but not the one you are asking >>> about. 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