I requested but did not receive the hand out,, if anyone else would like to share, that would be appreciated.. Thanks. Blessings to you Mary aka mom From: CWald36709@aol.com Reply-To: nysarato@rootsweb.com To: NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com, ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYSARATO] Handouts Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:58:41 EST I have sent the last of the handouts, everyone who requested should have received one. I am unable to continue to send, if you are interested in the Saratoga County Surname Exchange you can contact Karen Clark @ kclark6456@nycap.rr.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG

I didn't receive them either, perhaps someone who did will forward a copy, jgrabo@nycap.rr.com Kathy

I have not received the handouts and I did request them. If at all possible I would still like to have them. Thank you, Sally Bailey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CWald36709@aol.com> > To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com>; <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 12:58 PM > Subject: [NYSARATO] Handouts > > > >I have sent the last of the handouts, everyone who requested should have > > received one. I am unable to continue to send, if you are interested in > > the > > Saratoga County Surname Exchange you can contact Karen Clark @ > > kclark6456@nycap.rr.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 1/28/2007 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

i have not received the handouts and i did request them. please send. thanks penny On 1/28/07, Woody <dolwood215@optonline.net> wrote: > > THANK YOU YOU HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. BILL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CWald36709@aol.com> > To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com>; <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 12:58 PM > Subject: [NYSARATO] Handouts > > > >I have sent the last of the handouts, everyone who requested should have > > received one. I am unable to continue to send, if you are interested in > > the > > Saratoga County Surname Exchange you can contact Karen Clark @ > > kclark6456@nycap.rr.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: > 1/28/2007 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

THANK YOU YOU HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. BILL ----- Original Message ----- From: <CWald36709@aol.com> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com>; <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: [NYSARATO] Handouts >I have sent the last of the handouts, everyone who requested should have > received one. I am unable to continue to send, if you are interested in > the > Saratoga County Surname Exchange you can contact Karen Clark @ > kclark6456@nycap.rr.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 1/28/2007 > >

I have sent the last of the handouts, everyone who requested should have received one. I am unable to continue to send, if you are interested in the Saratoga County Surname Exchange you can contact Karen Clark @ kclark6456@nycap.rr.com

Hi Chuck, Thank you for your help. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think that I would be reading about military history, but I am. Last night I was reading "With Burgoyne from Quebec", which is Volume I of "Travels Thought the Interior Party of North America" by Thomas Anbury, who was one of the officers who served under Burgoyne during the Saratoga campaign. Thomas Anbury wrote about the bridge of boats that the Royal Army had constructed at the mouth of the Kroma Kill, the creek that drains the great ravine in Great Lott 16 of the Saratoga Patent. So Asa Fitch was correct when he reported that the British had crossed the Hudson River at "Wilbur's basin", even though the area was not called Wilbur's basin until well into the 19th century. The British did not pay a bit of attention to the Great Lott lines in the Saratoga Patent or to the names of the tenant farmers. So I suspect that the British just marched through Samuel Bacon's farm (Farm # 1, Great Lott 16) to get to the bridge of boats that they had moved down stream during their attempt to reach Albany. Thanks again. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Latham Sr" <cslatham@localnet.com> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? That was very interesting! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Champlain Canal, connecting the city of Troy to Lake Champlain, was completed in 1823. By 1825, the Erie Canal was completed and "canal mania" swept the nation. The Champlain canal ran along present Route 4 and connected the adjoining farm roads by bridges. Small enterprises flourished with the advent of the canal. Lumber, coal, agricultural products, marble, granite and sand were some of the main cargoes carried by canal boats to the distant markets in New York City and beyond. The blacksmiths at Bemis Heights and Wilbur's Basin were kept busy shoeing mules, used to pull the boats along the canal. Wilbur's basin, named after the Wilbur family and located at the confluence of the Kroma Kill and the Hudson River, was important as a turn-around for canal boats and as a place to load and unload goods at its docks. A thriving community of mills operated and flourished on the banks of this stream, including a sawmill, gristmill, plaster mill, and salt mill (from the will of Daniel Smith). The products from the mills were shipped down the stream by flat-bottomed barges to the canal via the turning basin and then sent to market. The Wilburs were one of the first families to establish a store in the area Wilbur's Basin was a busy shopping destination as it had line barns, a blacksmith shop, grocery, and at one time a post office. Mules were housed overnight in line barns. The Great Storm of October 4, 1869 wrecked havoc on these resources. "At Wilbur's Basin a 7-foot canal break occurred and the mill dam gave way destroying Dr. Smith's gristmill, sawmill, and plaster mill (Asa Fitch's journal)." Behind the dam was a large pond that was used to supply ample power. In the winter skating was a popular pastime on the pond. This pond was often referred to as a "lake of unrivalled beauty." An ancillary role of the canal was its use in the transportation of slaves along the Underground Railroad. The local Quakers had a large role in protecting and guiding these slaves to the north. The Wilburs and many other families in the vicinity of the park were Quakers. The canal also presented many dangers, especially to the children who were taught to shun the towpath, the rough drivers, and the mules who had reputations as kickers. By 1915, the original Champlain Canal was abandoned and the new Champlain Barge Canal opened. In 1976 the Champlain Canal was nominated to the National Register of Historic Places. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Regards, Chuck......"Our Seasoned Friends Have More Ingredients" ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Mary Sederlin" <sede@msn.com> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Leslie,,, > > Found some information on Wilbur's basin while looking for Fones > Information, You might like to check this out.. > > http://www.nature.nps.gov/water/management_plans/sara_final_screen.pdf > > > > > > > > Mary aka mom > > > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > Reply-To: nysarato@rootsweb.com > To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:47:18 -0500 > > Dear List, > > Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, > Fitch states: > > On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men > Tories escorted to Lake George > from > "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) > > Royal Army marched to "Wilber's > basin" and crossed the Hudson. > > Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones > Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in > Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur (1724-1804) > and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the east > side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even > living > in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. > > What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division of > the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of > Abraham > Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The Vly Lott > is > located in Great Lott 15. > > Thank you for your help, > > Leslie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ >>From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the > Academy Awards® > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary, Thank you for the URL for the Park Service's report. I hope that you were successful in finding information on the Fones family. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Mary Sederlin" <sede@msn.com> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Leslie,,, > > Found some information on Wilbur's basin while looking for Fones > Information, You might like to check this out.. > > http://www.nature.nps.gov/water/management_plans/sara_final_screen.pdf > > > > > > > > Mary aka mom > > > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > Reply-To: nysarato@rootsweb.com > To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:47:18 -0500 > > Dear List, > > Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, > Fitch states: > > On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men > Tories escorted to Lake George > from > "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) > > Royal Army marched to "Wilber's > basin" and crossed the Hudson. > > Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones > Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in > Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur (1724-1804) > and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the east > side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even > living > in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. > > What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division of > the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of > Abraham > Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The Vly Lott > is > located in Great Lott 15. > > Thank you for your help, > > Leslie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ >>From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the > Academy Awards® > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That was very interesting! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Champlain Canal, connecting the city of Troy to Lake Champlain, was completed in 1823. By 1825, the Erie Canal was completed and "canal mania" swept the nation. The Champlain canal ran along present Route 4 and connected the adjoining farm roads by bridges. Small enterprises flourished with the advent of the canal. Lumber, coal, agricultural products, marble, granite and sand were some of the main cargoes carried by canal boats to the distant markets in New York City and beyond. The blacksmiths at Bemis Heights and Wilbur's Basin were kept busy shoeing mules, used to pull the boats along the canal. Wilbur's basin, named after the Wilbur family and located at the confluence of the Kroma Kill and the Hudson River, was important as a turn-around for canal boats and as a place to load and unload goods at its docks. A thriving community of mills operated and flourished on the banks of this stream, including a sawmill, gristmill, plaster mill, and salt mill (from the will of Daniel Smith). The products from the mills were shipped down the stream by flat-bottomed barges to the canal via the turning basin and then sent to market. The Wilburs were one of the first families to establish a store in the area. Wilbur's Basin was a busy shopping destination as it had line barns, a blacksmith shop, grocery, and at one time a post office. Mules were housed overnight in line barns. The Great Storm of October 4, 1869 wrecked havoc on these resources. "At Wilbur's Basin a 7-foot canal break occurred and the mill dam gave way destroying Dr. Smith's gristmill, sawmill, and plaster mill (Asa Fitch's journal)." Behind the dam was a large pond that was used to supply ample power. In the winter skating was a popular pastime on the pond. This pond was often referred to as a "lake of unrivalled beauty." An ancillary role of the canal was its use in the transportation of slaves along the Underground Railroad. The local Quakers had a large role in protecting and guiding these slaves to the north. The Wilburs and many other families in the vicinity of the park were Quakers. The canal also presented many dangers, especially to the children who were taught to shun the towpath, the rough drivers, and the mules who had reputations as kickers. By 1915, the original Champlain Canal was abandoned and the new Champlain Barge Canal opened. In 1976 the Champlain Canal was nominated to the National Register of Historic Places. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Regards, Chuck......"Our Seasoned Friends Have More Ingredients" ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Mary Sederlin" <sede@msn.com> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Leslie,,, > > Found some information on Wilbur's basin while looking for Fones > Information, You might like to check this out.. > > http://www.nature.nps.gov/water/management_plans/sara_final_screen.pdf > > > > > > > > Mary aka mom > > > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > Reply-To: nysarato@rootsweb.com > To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:47:18 -0500 > > Dear List, > > Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, > Fitch states: > > On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men > Tories escorted to Lake George > from > "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) > > Royal Army marched to "Wilber's > basin" and crossed the Hudson. > > Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones > Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in > Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur (1724-1804) > and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the east > side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even > living > in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. > > What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division of > the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of > Abraham > Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The Vly Lott > is > located in Great Lott 15. > > Thank you for your help, > > Leslie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ >>From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the > Academy Awards® > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Leslie,,, Found some information on Wilbur's basin while looking for Fones Information, You might like to check this out.. http://www.nature.nps.gov/water/management_plans/sara_final_screen.pdf Mary aka mom From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> Reply-To: nysarato@rootsweb.com To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:47:18 -0500 Dear List, Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, Fitch states: On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men Tories escorted to Lake George from "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) Royal Army marched to "Wilber's basin" and crossed the Hudson. Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur (1724-1804) and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the east side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. Thank you for your help, Leslie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1

Is there anyone from Waterford on the list ? I am hoping to visit Waterford sometime this summer to do further research on my Campbell family (I live in Seattle area). Would like to get some feedback on any preliminary work that I could do before coming and also if there is a place locally that I could put up with my trailer etc.. Lucy

thank you bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] [SPAM] Re: What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > The Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent divided the land within > the > patent into 49 long narrow Great Lotts running from the centerline of the > Hudson River to the boundaries of the patent which were located six miles > inland, on either side of the river. > > Great Lotts 1 thought 28, plus the Dovgat, are on the west side of the > Hudson, i.e. present day Saratoga County, NY. Great Lotts 29 through 49 > plus another lot similar to Dovgat for which I have not yet found a name, > are located on the east side of the Hudson, i.e. present day Washington > County, NY. > > According to the Beers 1866 Topographical Atlas of Saratoga County, the > Quaker Springs Post Office is located in Great Lott 21. > > John Freeman's farm, the location of the armed hostilities between the > Royal > Army and the Continental Army, was Farm # 3, Great Lott 16. John Freeman > leased Farm # 3, Great Lott 16 from Philip Schuyler on August 2, 1768. So > the area surrounding Freeman's farm is within the boundaries of the > Saratoga > National historical Park. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:32 PM > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > >> hi, are you sure that great lott is not in quaker springs ? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >> >> >>> Just south of Great Lott 16. Great Lott 16 is the northern most Great >>> Lott >>> in the present day Town of Stillwater, Saratoga County, NY. A portion >>> of >>> Great Lott 17, 16, 15, 14, and 13 are within the bounds of the Saratog >>> National Historical Park. >>> >>> I hope that that helps. >>> >>> Leslie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> >>> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>> >>> >>>> where is great lott 15 ? >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >>>> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:47 PM >>>> Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear List, >>>>> >>>>> Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page >>>>> 82, >>>>> Fitch states: >>>>> >>>>> On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men >>>>> Tories escorted to Lake George >>>>> from >>>>> "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) >>>>> >>>>> Royal Army marched to "Wilber's >>>>> basin" and crossed the Hudson. >>>>> >>>>> Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones >>>>> Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in >>>>> Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur >>>>> (1724-1804) >>>>> and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the >>>>> east >>>>> side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even >>>>> living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. >>>>> >>>>> What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>>>> >>>>> Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand >>>>> Division >>>>> of >>>>> the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of >>>>> Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. >>>>> The >>>>> Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your help, >>>>> >>>>> Leslie >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: >>>>> 1/23/2007 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: >>> 1/23/2007 >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] [SPAM] Re: What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > The Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent divided the land within > the > patent into 49 long narrow Great Lotts running from the centerline of the > Hudson River to the boundaries of the patent which were located six miles > inland, on either side of the river. > > Great Lotts 1 thought 28, plus the Dovgat, are on the west side of the > Hudson, i.e. present day Saratoga County, NY. Great Lotts 29 through 49 > plus another lot similar to Dovgat for which I have not yet found a name, > are located on the east side of the Hudson, i.e. present day Washington > County, NY. > > According to the Beers 1866 Topographical Atlas of Saratoga County, the > Quaker Springs Post Office is located in Great Lott 21. > > John Freeman's farm, the location of the armed hostilities between the > Royal > Army and the Continental Army, was Farm # 3, Great Lott 16. John Freeman > leased Farm # 3, Great Lott 16 from Philip Schuyler on August 2, 1768. So > the area surrounding Freeman's farm is within the boundaries of the > Saratoga > National historical Park. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:32 PM > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > >> hi, are you sure that great lott is not in quaker springs ? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >> >> >>> Just south of Great Lott 16. Great Lott 16 is the northern most Great >>> Lott >>> in the present day Town of Stillwater, Saratoga County, NY. A portion >>> of >>> Great Lott 17, 16, 15, 14, and 13 are within the bounds of the Saratog >>> National Historical Park. >>> >>> I hope that that helps. >>> >>> Leslie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> >>> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>> >>> >>>> where is great lott 15 ? >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >>>> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:47 PM >>>> Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear List, >>>>> >>>>> Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page >>>>> 82, >>>>> Fitch states: >>>>> >>>>> On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men >>>>> Tories escorted to Lake George >>>>> from >>>>> "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) >>>>> >>>>> Royal Army marched to "Wilber's >>>>> basin" and crossed the Hudson. >>>>> >>>>> Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones >>>>> Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in >>>>> Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur >>>>> (1724-1804) >>>>> and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the >>>>> east >>>>> side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even >>>>> living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. >>>>> >>>>> What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>>>> >>>>> Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand >>>>> Division >>>>> of >>>>> the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of >>>>> Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. >>>>> The >>>>> Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your help, >>>>> >>>>> Leslie >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: >>>>> 1/23/2007 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: >>> 1/23/2007 >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 >

The Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent divided the land within the patent into 49 long narrow Great Lotts running from the centerline of the Hudson River to the boundaries of the patent which were located six miles inland, on either side of the river. Great Lotts 1 thought 28, plus the Dovgat, are on the west side of the Hudson, i.e. present day Saratoga County, NY. Great Lotts 29 through 49 plus another lot similar to Dovgat for which I have not yet found a name, are located on the east side of the Hudson, i.e. present day Washington County, NY. According to the Beers 1866 Topographical Atlas of Saratoga County, the Quaker Springs Post Office is located in Great Lott 21. John Freeman's farm, the location of the armed hostilities between the Royal Army and the Continental Army, was Farm # 3, Great Lott 16. John Freeman leased Farm # 3, Great Lott 16 from Philip Schuyler on August 2, 1768. So the area surrounding Freeman's farm is within the boundaries of the Saratoga National historical Park. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:32 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > hi, are you sure that great lott is not in quaker springs ? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > >> Just south of Great Lott 16. Great Lott 16 is the northern most Great >> Lott >> in the present day Town of Stillwater, Saratoga County, NY. A portion of >> Great Lott 17, 16, 15, 14, and 13 are within the bounds of the Saratog >> National Historical Park. >> >> I hope that that helps. >> >> Leslie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> >> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >> >> >>> where is great lott 15 ? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >>> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:47 PM >>> Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>> >>> >>>> Dear List, >>>> >>>> Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, >>>> Fitch states: >>>> >>>> On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men >>>> Tories escorted to Lake George >>>> from >>>> "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) >>>> >>>> Royal Army marched to "Wilber's >>>> basin" and crossed the Hudson. >>>> >>>> Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones >>>> Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in >>>> Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur >>>> (1724-1804) >>>> and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the >>>> east >>>> side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even >>>> living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. >>>> >>>> What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>>> >>>> Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division >>>> of >>>> the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of >>>> Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. >>>> The >>>> Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your help, >>>> >>>> Leslie >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: >>>> 1/23/2007 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am interested in seeing the "Fones" family information if anyone is connected to that family. I have a Abrahm Decker married to a Mary Fones who where parents of Bertha Decker Married to Henry Rooke,, Henry Born 1873 and I believe Bertha born in 1874.. Anyone have a connection...wondering after seeing the references to Sarah Fones in this round of questioning on the Wilbur's Basin.. Blessings to you Mary aka mom From: Woody <dolwood215@optonline.net> Reply-To: nysarato@rootsweb.com To: nysarato@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] [SPAM] Re: What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:27:37 -0500 thank you bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] [SPAM] Re: What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > The Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent divided the land within > the > patent into 49 long narrow Great Lotts running from the centerline of the > Hudson River to the boundaries of the patent which were located six miles > inland, on either side of the river. > > Great Lotts 1 thought 28, plus the Dovgat, are on the west side of the > Hudson, i.e. present day Saratoga County, NY. Great Lotts 29 through 49 > plus another lot similar to Dovgat for which I have not yet found a name, > are located on the east side of the Hudson, i.e. present day Washington > County, NY. > > According to the Beers 1866 Topographical Atlas of Saratoga County, the > Quaker Springs Post Office is located in Great Lott 21. > > John Freeman's farm, the location of the armed hostilities between the > Royal > Army and the Continental Army, was Farm # 3, Great Lott 16. John Freeman > leased Farm # 3, Great Lott 16 from Philip Schuyler on August 2, 1768. So > the area surrounding Freeman's farm is within the boundaries of the > Saratoga > National historical Park. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:32 PM > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > >> hi, are you sure that great lott is not in quaker springs ? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >> >> >>> Just south of Great Lott 16. Great Lott 16 is the northern most Great >>> Lott >>> in the present day Town of Stillwater, Saratoga County, NY. A portion >>> of >>> Great Lott 17, 16, 15, 14, and 13 are within the bounds of the Saratog >>> National Historical Park. >>> >>> I hope that that helps. >>> >>> Leslie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> >>> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>> >>> >>>> where is great lott 15 ? >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >>>> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:47 PM >>>> Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear List, >>>>> >>>>> Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page >>>>> 82, >>>>> Fitch states: >>>>> >>>>> On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men >>>>> Tories escorted to Lake George >>>>> from >>>>> "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) >>>>> >>>>> Royal Army marched to "Wilber's >>>>> basin" and crossed the Hudson. >>>>> >>>>> Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones >>>>> Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in >>>>> Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur >>>>> (1724-1804) >>>>> and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the >>>>> east >>>>> side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even >>>>> living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. >>>>> >>>>> What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>>>> >>>>> Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand >>>>> Division >>>>> of >>>>> the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of >>>>> Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. >>>>> The >>>>> Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your help, >>>>> >>>>> Leslie >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: >>>>> 1/23/2007 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: >>> 1/23/2007 >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Search for grocery stores. 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hi, are you sure that great lott is not in quaker springs ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Just south of Great Lott 16. Great Lott 16 is the northern most Great > Lott > in the present day Town of Stillwater, Saratoga County, NY. A portion of > Great Lott 17, 16, 15, 14, and 13 are within the bounds of the Saratog > National Historical Park. > > I hope that that helps. > > Leslie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > >> where is great lott 15 ? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:47 PM >> Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >> >> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, >>> Fitch states: >>> >>> On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men >>> Tories escorted to Lake George >>> from >>> "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) >>> >>> Royal Army marched to "Wilber's >>> basin" and crossed the Hudson. >>> >>> Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones >>> Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in >>> Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur >>> (1724-1804) >>> and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the >>> east >>> side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even >>> living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. >>> >>> What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >>> >>> Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division >>> of >>> the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of >>> Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The >>> Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. >>> >>> Thank you for your help, >>> >>> Leslie >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: >>> 1/23/2007 >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/649 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 >

Ernest, I bought my copy of the "Asa Fitch Papers" from Sleeper Books. You can reach the Sleeper Books web site through the Washington County gen web site. I have not looked for the names of the British soldiers. However, I assume that their names have been preserved for posterity. The first place I'd ask about a list of names for the British army would be at the David Library of the American Revolution, in Washington Crossing, PA. If you go to the David Library web site, you will be able to check the catalog and if necessary contact a librarian. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Swanson" <eswanson@elp.rr.com> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > How can I get a copy of the Asa Fitch Papers? Does anyone have the names > of > those 5,752 Burgoyne men who surrendered in 1777? My ggg Grandfather > Thomas > Clark may have been among that group. Thanks. > > Ernest Swanson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:47 PM > Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > >> Dear List, >> >> Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, >> Fitch states: >> >> On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men >> Tories escorted to Lake George >> from >> "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) >> >> Royal Army marched to "Wilber's >> basin" and crossed the Hudson. >> >> Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones >> Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in >> Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur (1724-1804) >> and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the east >> side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even >> living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. >> >> What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >> >> Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division >> of >> the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of >> Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The >> Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. >> >> Thank you for your help, >> >> Leslie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How can I get a copy of the Asa Fitch Papers? Does anyone have the names of those 5,752 Burgoyne men who surrendered in 1777? My ggg Grandfather Thomas Clark may have been among that group. Thanks. Ernest Swanson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Dear List, > > Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, > Fitch states: > > On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men > Tories escorted to Lake George from > "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) > > Royal Army marched to "Wilber's > basin" and crossed the Hudson. > > Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones > Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in > Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur (1724-1804) > and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the east > side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even > living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. > > What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division of > the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of > Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The > Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. > > Thank you for your help, > > Leslie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just south of Great Lott 16. Great Lott 16 is the northern most Great Lott in the present day Town of Stillwater, Saratoga County, NY. A portion of Great Lott 17, 16, 15, 14, and 13 are within the bounds of the Saratog National Historical Park. I hope that that helps. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > where is great lott 15 ? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:47 PM > Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > >> Dear List, >> >> Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, >> Fitch states: >> >> On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men >> Tories escorted to Lake George >> from >> "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) >> >> Royal Army marched to "Wilber's >> basin" and crossed the Hudson. >> >> Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones >> Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in >> Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur (1724-1804) >> and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the east >> side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even >> living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. >> >> What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? >> >> Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division >> of >> the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of >> Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The >> Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. >> >> Thank you for your help, >> >> Leslie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

where is great lott 15 ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: [NYSARATO] What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > Dear List, > > Last night I was reading the Asa Fitch Papers. In Volume 2 at page 82, > Fitch states: > > On October 17, 1777 - Burgoyne surrendered, 5752 men > Tories escorted to Lake George from > "Schuylerville" (i.e., Saratoga in 1777) > > Royal Army marched to "Wilber's > basin" and crossed the Hudson. > > Wilbur's Basin was named fro Fones Wilbur (1762-1831). In 1777, Fones > Wilbur would have been 15 years of age and living with his parents in > Dutchess County, NY. Fones Wilbur's parents, Jonathan Wilbur (1724-1804) > and Sarah Fones Wilbur (1734-1818), did not move their family to the east > side of the Saratoga Patent until 1786. So the Wilburs were not even > living in the Saratoga Tax Distict during the Rev. War. > > What was "Wilbur's Basin" called in 1777? > > Wilbur's Basin is located in Great Lott 16 of the Second Grand Division of > the Saratoga Patent. There may have been a ferry operated by one of > Abraham Ten Broeck's sub-tenants in the Vly Lott during the 1770's. The > Vly Lott is located in Great Lott 15. > > Thank you for your help, > > Leslie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 > >