Sounds familiar... Joseph Weed (1) came to Ti about 1820, built mills at the upper falls, Joseph Weed (2) came to Ti about 1830, built mills and a store at the lower falls, both were very sussessfull, Joseph 2 created the Weedville section of Ti, then sold it to Joseph 1. They were both wealthy and very involved in politics. Their children followed in their footsteps, build ing the Weed opera house, pharmacy, Weed block, etc...H G Burleigh was also active in everything, with a big empire on Lake Champlain and in the village... Regards, Fred www.ticonderogaheritagemuseum.org Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex Admin http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm www.provoncha.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. McDonald" <m.mcdonald@computer.org> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Surname Exchange - Weed/Cunningham > Fred, > I assume that the Weeds you are interested in did business in the now > vacant > "Weed Block" in Ticonderoga. My Great Grandfather Thomas F. Cunningham > was a clerk at the Weed Brothers Pharmacy and later bought out the > business > and ran it as the Cunningham Pharmacy (circa 1910?). His son-in-law H. G. > Burleigh took over after his death (1933?) and continued the name > Cunningham > for a few years before changing the name to Burleigh Pharmacy. I have > forgotten > who moved it from the Weed Block to the present site of the luncheonette. > > Let me know if this sounds familiar or if I'm off base. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "UncleFred" <unclefvp@verizon.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:41 PM > Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Surname Exchange > > >> Mine is Bailey, Post, Woodcock, Elms and Weed >> Regards, Fred >> >> www.ticonderogaheritagemuseum.org >> www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> www.provoncha.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <diane.brown@sympatico.ca> >> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Surname Exchange >> >> >> > My interest is Brown, Way and Card families. >> > Thank you >> > Diane Brown >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The first names of men with the surname of Jones in the pre-1790 tax records are: David, Enoch, Enos, James, Joseph, Joshua, Joshua, Jr. Nathaniel, Samuel, and Thomas. The first names of persons with the surname of White in the pre-1790 tax records are: Widow, Alexander, Daniel, Epenetus, Ephenetus, Epinetes, George, James, John Jonas, Rufus, Sanford, Stephen and William. The first names of men with the surname of Waite in the pre-1790 tax records are: Oliver and Reuben The first names of men with the surname of Sweet in the pre-1790 tax records are: David, Henry, Oliver, Timothy, and Vanlentine The first names of men with the surname of Hamblin in the pre-1790 tax records are: Asa and Cyrenus The first names of men with the surnames of Hamilton in the pre-1790 tax records are: David, John, Joshua, and William The first names of the men with the surname of Allen in the pre-1790 tax records are: Caleb, Ephraim and James I did not find anyone with the surnames of Green or Scriven in the pre-1790 tax records I hope that this helps.

To All Who May Be Interested: The New York State Library has a large collection of manuscripts and special collections. In searching the Holland Land Company, I came across _Rensselaerwyck Manor Records, 1630-1899_ (http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/msscfa/sc7079.htm) and _Schuyler Family Collection, 1679-1823_ (http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/msscfa/sc19811.htm) . The web site is: _Finding Aids to Manuscripts Collections, New York State Library_ (http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/msscfa/fa_toc.htm) . Some of the names previously mentioned in the inquiries are mentioned in the two above collections. Apparently the library requires at least two days notice in order to retrieve them. Hope this helps in your research. Mary <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hi again Gary and list, Oops, I forgot one! Sorry. There was a man named William Ford, who came to Stillwater from Ireland with The Rev. Dr. Thomas Clark in 1764. What I do not know is whether William Ford stayed in Stillwater as some of Rev. Clark's flock did or whether he removed to Salem Washington County with Rev. Clark. Does anyone know anything about this William Ford? Could he be the husband of the Widow Ford? The Widow Harsha, a/k/a Esther Reid Harsha the wife of James Harsha, came from Ireland with the Rev. Dr. Thomas Clark. However, while the congregation was still in Stillwater her husband James Harsha died. Esther Harsha remained in Stillwater with some of her children, while some of her older sons removed to Salem with the Rev. Clark. Leslie Glen Mills, PA

I am looking for JONES relatives of Silas JONES SR. or his brother or any of his children. Silas Jones came from Rhode Island to Albany around this time. I am looking for any of his children, siblings that may have had a NOEL JONES born 1785 near Albany NY . Noel JONES later marries a Susannah and has NOYES JONES 1809 Petersburg NY. Have them in the 1810 census and Petersburg court records.. REally need help.. Will talk to any JONES member of this clan for clues. Other related names are SWEET, HAMBLIN HAMILTON, BERRY, WAITE, SCRIVEN, ALLEN, GREEN, WHITE, ETC. SUSICP@AOL.COM OR SUSICP @COX.NET On Mar 10, 2007, at 5:18 AM, Leslie B. Potter wrote: > Woody, > > I hope that one of the genealogists on the list responds to your > query. > Genealogy is not my forte. > > I can only tell you about my research project. I started out to > settle a > difference of opinion that several of my 4th cousins, who were > genealogists, > were having about who was the Freeman who "owned" the Freeman's > farm, which > was the site of the Battle of Saratoga. I thought that it would > take me two > days to do a title search. Wrong! It took me ten days over two > vacations > to discover that John Freeman, who was probably nephew of my 5th > great-grandfather, LEASED Farm # 3, Great Lott 16 from General > Schuyler, > who was the proprietor of Great Lott 16. > > In the process of doing this title search I discovered that the > Saratoga > Patent was populated at a density that was typical of rural > American in the > late 18th Century, i.e. one farm stead for every 150 to 200 acres. > It was > not either the "wilderness" that General Burgoyne had claimed it to > be or a > "wilderness" in the common modern use of the word. So I set about > to right > an historical wrong by documenting the existence of the families of > the 567 > taxpayers on the 1779-Saratoga District Tax List. So I research > real estate > records and then try to find genealogical data pertaining to those > people. > > I wish you every success in you genealogical endeavors. > > Sincerely, > > Leslie > Glen Mills, PA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gary, Yes, there are several people in the Albany County tax, militia and church records of that time. They are as follows: 1. The Widow Ford, who is listed on both the March 2nd 1779 Saratoga District Tax List and the October 23rd 1779 Saratoga District Tax List. My questions are; a) what was her first name and birth and death dates; b) who was her husband and what were his birth and death dates; c) did she have any children; d) if she had children, what were their names and dates. 2. A man named Thomas Ford appears on the 1786 Saratoga (West side) District Tax List. A man named Thomas Foard [Ford] married Addie Allen at the Schaghticoke Dutch Reformed Church on 21 Sept 1775 3. Schaghticoke Dutch Reformed Church Baptismal records show the following baptisms for Ford children: a) Abraham Ford, son of Nathaniel Ford and Geesje Francisco, born on 16 Apr 1771; bapt. on 6 Jun 1771; sponsors - Simon Cole and Hester Cole b) James Ford, son of Nathaniel Ford and Geesje Fransisco, 28 Feb 1776 c) Abraham Ford, son of Nathaniel Ford and Geesje Fransisco, 24 Jul 1779; sponsors - Neal McNeal and Peggy Van der Hoef There were three men with the surname of Ford who fought with the 13th Regiment of the Albany County Militia (New York in the Rev as Colony and State) A) Asher Ford - b 1761 in Dutchess County, NY. He was granted a Rev War Pension based on his 44 months service. He married Jane Van Horn Feb 23, 1811. He live in Queensbury the 20 years before applying for his pension. B) Thomas Ford; and, C) William. The 1790 U.S. Census Return for ALBANY County shows the following men with the surname of Ford: 1. Asher Ford living in Easton, Albany County (now Washington County) 2. Timothy Ford living in Stillwater, Albany County (now Saratoga County) 3. Thomas Ford living in Stillwater, Albany County (now Saratoga County) 4. William Ford living in Stillwater, Albany County (now Saratoga County) If anyone can shed any more light on any of these men with the surname of Ford, I would greatly appreciate your help. I am particularly interested in the Widow Ford and her husband. Thank you for your help. Leslie Glen Mills, PA

Yes, William E. Ford and his son John E. Ford. Both resided in Stillwater for awhile (1790's+) the relocated to Northumberland (1815+) - Gary -----Original Message----- From: nysarato-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nysarato-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CWald36709@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:14 AM To: nysarato@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van Dyck,patentee o... >From the beginning of recording until 1840 there are several Ford families, do you have a given name or location ? Carol <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From the beginning of recording until 1840 there are several Ford families, do you have a given name or location ? Carol <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Woody, If you are asking about the older records, the answer is that they were documented in the churches involved and then printed and/or translated into coherent form. New York did not keep official records until later, but they had excellent church records for the most part. Hope this helps a bit. Steph

Leslie - In your research project listing of the 1779 Saratoga District taxpayers are there any Ford families? - Gary -----Original Message----- From: nysarato-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nysarato-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leslie B. Potter Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:18 AM To: nysarato@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van Dyck,patentee o... Woody, I hope that one of the genealogists on the list responds to your query. Genealogy is not my forte. I can only tell you about my research project. I started out to settle a difference of opinion that several of my 4th cousins, who were genealogists, were having about who was the Freeman who "owned" the Freeman's farm, which was the site of the Battle of Saratoga. I thought that it would take me two days to do a title search. Wrong! It took me ten days over two vacations to discover that John Freeman, who was probably nephew of my 5th great-grandfather, LEASED Farm # 3, Great Lott 16 from General Schuyler, who was the proprietor of Great Lott 16. In the process of doing this title search I discovered that the Saratoga Patent was populated at a density that was typical of rural American in the late 18th Century, i.e. one farm stead for every 150 to 200 acres. It was not either the "wilderness" that General Burgoyne had claimed it to be or a "wilderness" in the common modern use of the word. So I set about to right an historical wrong by documenting the existence of the families of the 567 taxpayers on the 1779-Saratoga District Tax List. So I research real estate records and then try to find genealogical data pertaining to those people. I wish you every success in you genealogical endeavors. Sincerely, Leslie Glen Mills, PA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Woody, I hope that one of the genealogists on the list responds to your query. Genealogy is not my forte. I can only tell you about my research project. I started out to settle a difference of opinion that several of my 4th cousins, who were genealogists, were having about who was the Freeman who "owned" the Freeman's farm, which was the site of the Battle of Saratoga. I thought that it would take me two days to do a title search. Wrong! It took me ten days over two vacations to discover that John Freeman, who was probably nephew of my 5th great-grandfather, LEASED Farm # 3, Great Lott 16 from General Schuyler, who was the proprietor of Great Lott 16. In the process of doing this title search I discovered that the Saratoga Patent was populated at a density that was typical of rural American in the late 18th Century, i.e. one farm stead for every 150 to 200 acres. It was not either the "wilderness" that General Burgoyne had claimed it to be or a "wilderness" in the common modern use of the word. So I set about to right an historical wrong by documenting the existence of the families of the 567 taxpayers on the 1779-Saratoga District Tax List. So I research real estate records and then try to find genealogical data pertaining to those people. I wish you every success in you genealogical endeavors. Sincerely, Leslie Glen Mills, PA

hi, where do you people find these records ? i have been tracing my family records ( gordon family from saratoga co. and clinton co. ny ) and can only go back to 1851 in clinton co. ny. bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hayes" <RAHayes@chartermi.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van Dyck,patentee o... > Hi Leslie, > > Cornelise Jacobse Van Dyck was the grandson of Cornelise Hendrickse Van > Dyck. He was born on 28 Aug 1698 and died in Schenectady before 15 Feb > 1759 > when his will was probated. He married Maritje Mebie on 12 Nov 1721. They > had 9 children. One of whom was Col. Cornelis Van Dyck who was in the Rev. > War. Cornelise Jacobse Van Dyck was a physician. > > Cornelis Hendrickse had 2 sons. Hendrick Cornelise was born about 1665. > Jacobus Cornelise was born about 1670. Hendrick married Maria Schuyler on > 3 > Feb 1689. Jacobus married Jacomyntje Glen on 9 Nov 1694. > > I do not have any information on where the family lived. The only thing > that > I can tell is that he lived in or near Schenectady. He was married twice > in > the Schenectady Reformed Church and had his 9 children baptized there. > > Richard > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 > >

Hi Richard, Thank you to you and the other list members who sent me data on Cornelius. This multi-generational data, which you sent last night, seems to identify Cornelius Van Dyck, the patentee of the Saratoga Patent, and his grandson, Cornelius Van Dyck, the proprietor of the Saratoga Patent. When I combined your data with the previously sent URL for the Cornelius Van Dyck, Rev War Co. (on the Schenectady County history site), I was also able to piece together the names of the Proprietor's probable heirs. It is going to take some serious work in the Albany County Courthouse before I have the history of the "Van Dyck 1/7 interest" in the Saratoga Patent nailed down to my satisfaction, but when I arrive at the courthouse in June, I shall have a good foundation upon which to build. Thank you again to everyone who sent me pieces of this puzzle. Your contributions of data has been a monumental help in putting these people into the proper context. Sincerely, Leslie

Hi Leslie, Cornelise Jacobse Van Dyck was the grandson of Cornelise Hendrickse Van Dyck. He was born on 28 Aug 1698 and died in Schenectady before 15 Feb 1759 when his will was probated. He married Maritje Mebie on 12 Nov 1721. They had 9 children. One of whom was Col. Cornelis Van Dyck who was in the Rev. War. Cornelise Jacobse Van Dyck was a physician. Cornelis Hendrickse had 2 sons. Hendrick Cornelise was born about 1665. Jacobus Cornelise was born about 1670. Hendrick married Maria Schuyler on 3 Feb 1689. Jacobus married Jacomyntje Glen on 9 Nov 1694. I do not have any information on where the family lived. The only thing that I can tell is that he lived in or near Schenectady. He was married twice in the Schenectady Reformed Church and had his 9 children baptized there. Richard

Dear List, Are there any legal scholars among you? I am admitted to the practice of law in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and used to dealing with 17th and 18th Pennsylvania legal documents. Although I went to law school in New York State, I do not speak New York legalese fluently and I have even less of an understanding of New York legal history. So I am in need of some help. My questions are: 1. Once a patent had been granted for land in Albany County in 1684 and a portion of that land hand been occupied by the Patentees, Why would that patent need to be reconfirmed and apparently reissued to the same Patentees in 1708? 2. In 1743, why did the proprietors of the Saratoga Patent (descendants of the original patentees) have to petition the legislature for permission to subdivide the undeveloped lands within the Saratoga Patent, which the aforementioned proprietors held as tenants in common? 3. Why did the 1750-survey of John R. Bleecker, which subdivided the Saratoga Patent need legislative approval before it was implemented? Can you give me the titles of any good treatises on New York legal history? Reading Plucknett's Concise History of the Common Law and Ladner on Conveyanicng in Pennsylvania only gets me so far. Van Der Linden's Institutes of the Laws of Holland and Van Leeuwen's Commentaries on the Roman Dutch Law have not shed any light on the conveyancing peculiarities that I have described above. The other thing that I am quizzical about is - why on February 2, 1796, did the heirs of Killian De Ridder, deceased, have to petition the New York State legislature, praying the legislature to pass a law to enable them to divide the estate of Killian De Ridder, which lies in different counties, in a manner from that preferred by the statute for the partition of lands? What was the method preferred by the statute? Thank you for your help, Leslie Potter Glen Mills, PA

According to Stone and Stewart's 1866 "Atlas of Saratoga County, NY", Victory Mills was in the "Dovegat Lott". The "Dovegat Lott" was a large area on the western bank of the Hudson River that had been created when the original Patentees took possession of the Saratoga Patent c. 1684. Apparently the original Patentees created lots from the flat lands lying on either side of the Hudson River and held the remaining acreage as tenants in common until the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent was established using John R. Bleecker's survey of 1750. If you poke around in the NY roots web archives on the internet, you should find a copy of John R. Bleecker's 1750-survey, which I sent to the site administrator for posting quite a few years ago. Basically, the Dovegat Lott has all of the Hudson River frontage from Great lott 22 to Great Lott 28. The present day Town of Saratoga runs north from the Great Lott 17/18 boundary line to beyond the north boundary of Great lott 28. I do not know how many proprietors held property in the Dovegat as yet. I know that General Philip Schuyler controlled a large section of the Dovegat near the junction of the Fishkill (now called Fish Creek) and the Hudson River, but I do not know if he controlled all of it. My research in the Saratoga Patent is a work in progress. I hope that his helps. Leslie in Pennsylvania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woody" <dolwood215@optonline.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van Dyck,patentee o... > hi, do you know what lot #'s victory mills was ? bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:56 PM > Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van > Dyck,patentee o... > > >> Hi Richard, >> >> After reading your note, it occurrs to me that maybe I am being too >> narrow >> in my interpertation of the data. >> >> According to George W. Schuyler, Dirck Ten Broeck, Gilbert Livingston, >> Gerrit Van Horn, Margart Vetch , Philip J. Schuyler, the Executor of John >> Schuyler, Jr., and Margaret Livingston all signed a petition requesting >> that >> the lands held in common in the Saratoga Patent be partitioned. The >> date >> of the petition was 1743. George Schuyler says that Cornelius Van Dyck >> and >> Jan Janse Bleecker did not sign this petition. I assumed from George >> Schuyler's statement, that Cornelius Van Dyck was still alive in 1743. >> My >> assumption may be dead wrong. >> >> George Schuyler also says that in 1750 John R. Bleecker surveyed the >> Saratoga Patent and subdivided the lands that had previously been held by >> tenants in common. The 750-Bleecker plat was "executed" in 1752 and >> "recorded" in 1763. >> >> The Proprietors of the Saratoga Patent who agreed with the Bleecker >> survey >> and signed off on it were: >> >> 1. John Glen for the heirs of Jan Janse Bleecker; >> 2. Killian De Ridder* for the heirs of Cornelius Van Dyck; >> 3. Gerardus Groesbeck for the heirs of Dirck Wessels [Ten Broeck] >> 4. John Van Rensselaer for the hirs of Peter Schuyler; >> 5. Robert Livingston; and >> 6. Johannes Schuyler. >> >> So do you have a Cornelius Van Dyck who died close to 1743? Or do you >> have >> a Cornelius Van Dyck, who died between 1743 and 1752? If you do, do you >> know who his heirs were? Did any of the Van Dycks in your database ever >> settle in the Saratoga Patent? >> >> *According to Jane Betsey Willing, On July 19, 1768, Killian De Ridder >> sold >> Great Lotts 38 & 47 of the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent >> to >> Jacob G. Van Schaick. According to the plat of the Second Grand Division >> of >> the Saratoga Patent, Lott 38 & 47 were assigned to Cornelius Van Dyck. >> (Willing, They Were Here Too, Volume 2 page 17) So that accounts for 2 >> of >> Cornelius Van Dyck's 7 Great Lotts. Two down and five to go. >> >> Thanks again for your help. >> >> Leslie >> Glen Mills, PA >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Hayes" <RAHayes@chartermi.net> >> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van >> Dyck,patentee o... >> >> >>> Hi Leslie, >>> >>> I have 6 Cornelis Van Dycks in my file, but not the one you are asking >>> about. I will look up the Schuyler website sometime. I have a number of >>> Schuylers that I have questions about. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi, do you know what lot #'s victory mills was ? bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van Dyck,patentee o... > Hi Richard, > > After reading your note, it occurrs to me that maybe I am being too narrow > in my interpertation of the data. > > According to George W. Schuyler, Dirck Ten Broeck, Gilbert Livingston, > Gerrit Van Horn, Margart Vetch , Philip J. Schuyler, the Executor of John > Schuyler, Jr., and Margaret Livingston all signed a petition requesting > that > the lands held in common in the Saratoga Patent be partitioned. The date > of the petition was 1743. George Schuyler says that Cornelius Van Dyck > and > Jan Janse Bleecker did not sign this petition. I assumed from George > Schuyler's statement, that Cornelius Van Dyck was still alive in 1743. My > assumption may be dead wrong. > > George Schuyler also says that in 1750 John R. Bleecker surveyed the > Saratoga Patent and subdivided the lands that had previously been held by > tenants in common. The 750-Bleecker plat was "executed" in 1752 and > "recorded" in 1763. > > The Proprietors of the Saratoga Patent who agreed with the Bleecker survey > and signed off on it were: > > 1. John Glen for the heirs of Jan Janse Bleecker; > 2. Killian De Ridder* for the heirs of Cornelius Van Dyck; > 3. Gerardus Groesbeck for the heirs of Dirck Wessels [Ten Broeck] > 4. John Van Rensselaer for the hirs of Peter Schuyler; > 5. Robert Livingston; and > 6. Johannes Schuyler. > > So do you have a Cornelius Van Dyck who died close to 1743? Or do you > have > a Cornelius Van Dyck, who died between 1743 and 1752? If you do, do you > know who his heirs were? Did any of the Van Dycks in your database ever > settle in the Saratoga Patent? > > *According to Jane Betsey Willing, On July 19, 1768, Killian De Ridder > sold > Great Lotts 38 & 47 of the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent to > Jacob G. Van Schaick. According to the plat of the Second Grand Division > of > the Saratoga Patent, Lott 38 & 47 were assigned to Cornelius Van Dyck. > (Willing, They Were Here Too, Volume 2 page 17) So that accounts for 2 of > Cornelius Van Dyck's 7 Great Lotts. Two down and five to go. > > Thanks again for your help. > > Leslie > Glen Mills, PA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Hayes" <RAHayes@chartermi.net> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:54 AM > Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van > Dyck,patentee o... > > >> Hi Leslie, >> >> I have 6 Cornelis Van Dycks in my file, but not the one you are asking >> about. I will look up the Schuyler website sometime. I have a number of >> Schuylers that I have questions about. >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 > >

Hi Richard, After reading your note, it occurrs to me that maybe I am being too narrow in my interpertation of the data. According to George W. Schuyler, Dirck Ten Broeck, Gilbert Livingston, Gerrit Van Horn, Margart Vetch , Philip J. Schuyler, the Executor of John Schuyler, Jr., and Margaret Livingston all signed a petition requesting that the lands held in common in the Saratoga Patent be partitioned. The date of the petition was 1743. George Schuyler says that Cornelius Van Dyck and Jan Janse Bleecker did not sign this petition. I assumed from George Schuyler's statement, that Cornelius Van Dyck was still alive in 1743. My assumption may be dead wrong. George Schuyler also says that in 1750 John R. Bleecker surveyed the Saratoga Patent and subdivided the lands that had previously been held by tenants in common. The 750-Bleecker plat was "executed" in 1752 and "recorded" in 1763. The Proprietors of the Saratoga Patent who agreed with the Bleecker survey and signed off on it were: 1. John Glen for the heirs of Jan Janse Bleecker; 2. Killian De Ridder* for the heirs of Cornelius Van Dyck; 3. Gerardus Groesbeck for the heirs of Dirck Wessels [Ten Broeck] 4. John Van Rensselaer for the hirs of Peter Schuyler; 5. Robert Livingston; and 6. Johannes Schuyler. So do you have a Cornelius Van Dyck who died close to 1743? Or do you have a Cornelius Van Dyck, who died between 1743 and 1752? If you do, do you know who his heirs were? Did any of the Van Dycks in your database ever settle in the Saratoga Patent? *According to Jane Betsey Willing, On July 19, 1768, Killian De Ridder sold Great Lotts 38 & 47 of the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent to Jacob G. Van Schaick. According to the plat of the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent, Lott 38 & 47 were assigned to Cornelius Van Dyck. (Willing, They Were Here Too, Volume 2 page 17) So that accounts for 2 of Cornelius Van Dyck's 7 Great Lotts. Two down and five to go. Thanks again for your help. Leslie Glen Mills, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hayes" <RAHayes@chartermi.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cornelius Van Dyck, grandson of Cornelius Van Dyck,patentee o... > Hi Leslie, > > I have 6 Cornelis Van Dycks in my file, but not the one you are asking > about. I will look up the Schuyler website sometime. I have a number of > Schuylers that I have questions about. > > Richard > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fred, I assume that the Weeds you are interested in did business in the now vacant "Weed Block" in Ticonderoga. My Great Grandfather Thomas F. Cunningham was a clerk at the Weed Brothers Pharmacy and later bought out the business and ran it as the Cunningham Pharmacy (circa 1910?). His son-in-law H. G. Burleigh took over after his death (1933?) and continued the name Cunningham for a few years before changing the name to Burleigh Pharmacy. I have forgotten who moved it from the Weed Block to the present site of the luncheonette. Let me know if this sounds familiar or if I'm off base. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "UncleFred" <unclefvp@verizon.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Surname Exchange > Mine is Bailey, Post, Woodcock, Elms and Weed > Regards, Fred > > www.ticonderogaheritagemuseum.org > www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > www.provoncha.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <diane.brown@sympatico.ca> > To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Surname Exchange > > > > My interest is Brown, Way and Card families. > > Thank you > > Diane Brown > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Leslie, I have 6 Cornelis Van Dycks in my file, but not the one you are asking about. I will look up the Schuyler website sometime. I have a number of Schuylers that I have questions about. Richard