It shows Alexander emigrated in 1851 and Janet in 1846. The 1901 Canadian Census showed the McMurray family emigrated in 1853, but I found them on an 1852 passenger list, so I don't rely on what census record say 100%. Unfortunately, Alexander was not on the 1852 passenger list, and I can't find him on Ancestry or The Ships List or the Transcribers Guild. So maybe he did come in 1851??? Anyway, I assumed that since the firstborn was from Canada, they were probably married there too. I'll forward this on to the Saratoga County NY rootsweb list...maybe they were married in NY. Thanks for your quick reply, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "LBoswell" <laboswell@rogers.com> To: <ont-leeds-grenville@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE] McMurray and McGowan Marriage > Hi, I can't see them in the Ont marriage records. Is there a date of > immigration given on the 1900 US? Maybe they were married in the States. > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert MacMurray" <ke4mvk@earthlink.net> > To: <ont-leeds-grenville-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:21 PM > Subject: [ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE] McMurray and McGowan Marriage > > >> According to the 1900 US Census, my gg-grandfather, Alexander MCMURRAY >> and >> his spouse >> Jenett MCGOWAN had been married for 36 years. That puts the year of >> their >> marriage around >> 1864. >> >> In the 1870 US Census they were living in Providence, Saratoga, New York, >> Post Office - Barkerville. >> They had two children, born in Canada, Walter, age 5, and Jeanette, age >> 2. >> I know Walter was born 7 Oct 1865. >> >> Now my question is....could someone on the list check the Canadian >> records >> for Alexander and Janet's >> marriage certificate? Or can I do this myself online? >> >> I know Alexander's brother had a farm in Edwardsburg, so they were >> probably married around Spencerville, >> possibly at the St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church there. >> >> Thanks and best regards, >> Robert MacMurray >> Website for this list may be found at: http://leeds.thebackstairs.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Website for this list may be found at: http://leeds.thebackstairs.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just got home and read this I also am interested in them. Susi On Apr 7, 2007, at 11:47 AM, CWald36709@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/6/2007 9:26:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > diane.brown@sympatico.ca writes: > > I would also be willing to pay for copies! Bet there is a wealth > of info > stored in them. ( I know just names and dates ... but the doors > they might > open!) > Diane > > > > Diane, The Surrogate Index has been reprinted twice and at this > time there > are none available, if we should reprint them again I will put a > notice on this > site. The deeds index is being printed in the Heritage Hunters > newsletter > that is mailed 5 times a year to members, we have just started > printing the > "S's", 12 pages of our 24 page newsletter are devoted to the deeds > project. > Carol > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http:// > www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

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There are 35 men named Elisha Freeman in the index Robert R. Freeman's book, "The Freeman Families of New England in the 17th and 18th Centuries", which was published in 2005. The Elisha Freeman (1794-1865), who settled in Orchard Park, Erie County, NY, is seventh child of Stephen Freeman (1759-1837) and Anna Baker Freeman (1759-1829). He was born in Great Lott 39 of the Second Grand Division of the Saratoga Patent (present day Easton Washington County, NY). His immigrant Freeman ancestor was John Freeman (1600-1648) of Sudbury, Massachusetts. The Captain Elisha Freeman (1731-1828), about whom Steve was inquiring, was descended from Samuel Freeman (1600-1646) of Watertown, Massachusetts and settled the Town of Half Moon, Saratoga County, NY. ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeachLdy53@aol.com> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cemetery Lookup > Taken from _The Freeman Family Genealogy_ (http://novan.com/freeman.htm) > : > > > There is a sign on Freeman Road in Orchard Park, NY commemorating Elisha > Freeman who came to the East Hamburg area (now Orchard Park) from Easton, > NY when > he was only 17 years old, way back in 1816, when this area was still a > forest wilderness. His father Stephan Freeman moved in around 1822 with > his wife. > Stephan had fought as a private in the 13th Regiment of the Albany Co. > Militia against General Burgoyne's army in the battle of Saratoga. He saw > General > Fraser fall from his horse, mortally wounded in the battle. > His son, Elisha married Abigail Smith in 1821 and became a successful > farmer > in Orchard Park. His farm remained in the Freeman family until about > 1920. > The original home (although modified over the years) still remains a > beautiful > sight to behold next to Freeman's Pond. > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Taken from _The Freeman Family Genealogy_ (http://novan.com/freeman.htm) : There is a sign on Freeman Road in Orchard Park, NY commemorating Elisha Freeman who came to the East Hamburg area (now Orchard Park) from Easton, NY when he was only 17 years old, way back in 1816, when this area was still a forest wilderness. His father Stephan Freeman moved in around 1822 with his wife. Stephan had fought as a private in the 13th Regiment of the Albany Co. Militia against General Burgoyne's army in the battle of Saratoga. He saw General Fraser fall from his horse, mortally wounded in the battle. His son, Elisha married Abigail Smith in 1821 and became a successful farmer in Orchard Park. His farm remained in the Freeman family until about 1920. The original home (although modified over the years) still remains a beautiful sight to behold next to Freeman's Pond. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Leslie, Correction, Elizabeth is 1763-1829 Thank you. r/Steven -------------- Original message -------------- From: johnnylumen@comcast.net > Leslie, > Elizabeth Freeman c1776 - 1829 > Abraham Calkins c1761 - 1833 > Thank you. > r/Steven > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" > > > I have a copy of Robert R. Freeman's book, "The Freeman Families of New > > England in the 17th and 18th Centuries". I would be willing to do a look-up > > for you. However because of the many duplications of names and the manner in > > which Bob's material is indexed, I really need to know the birth date for > > the person whom I am looking up. A death date would be handy too. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:08 AM > > Subject: [NYSARATO] 18TH CENTURY MARRIAGE RECORDS > > > > > > > Do any marriage records exist for the late 1780's - early 1790's? Looking > > > for a record on ABRAHAM CALKINS and ELIZABETH FREEMAN who were longtime > > > Saratoga Co. residents. > > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > > Thank you. > > > r/Steven > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Bob's book has a great deal of information on Capt. Elisha Freeman (1731-1828), but nothing about the death or burial of his wife, Mercy Vincent. I assume that Mercy was still alive on 28 November 1791 because she inherited one sheet and some wearing apparel from her mother. Captain Elisha Freeman wrote an autobiography, which was entitled "Sketches of his life, containing an accout of his shipwreck and remarkable deliverance, as also his religious exercises and the special dealing of God's Providence during his life time of 88 years". His autobiography was published in Ballston Spa in 1819. Capt. Elisha Freeman's autobiography, if you can find a copy of it, might give you a clue or two. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnnylumen@comcast.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] Cemetery Lookup > Leslie, > Capt. Elisha Freeman b. 7/2/1731 - 1/1/1828, aged 97 y > r/Steven > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > >> Just out of curiosity, what are the dates of birth and death for your >> Elisha >> Freeman? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:20 AM >> Subject: [NYSARATO] Cemetery Lookup >> >> >> > Searching for burial location of Mercy Vincent Freeman said to have d. >> > 9/28/1806 in Stephentown, Rensselaer Co., NY. Her husband, Elisha >> > Freeman >> > is bur. in Newtown Baptist Cemetery, Half Moon, Saratoga Co., NY, but >> > cannot locate Mercy's grave there. >> > Any help would be appreciated. >> > Thank you. >> > r/Steven Mitchell >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Leslie, Elizabeth Freeman c1776 - 1829 Abraham Calkins c1761 - 1833 Thank you. r/Steven -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > I have a copy of Robert R. Freeman's book, "The Freeman Families of New > England in the 17th and 18th Centuries". I would be willing to do a look-up > for you. However because of the many duplications of names and the manner in > which Bob's material is indexed, I really need to know the birth date for > the person whom I am looking up. A death date would be handy too. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:08 AM > Subject: [NYSARATO] 18TH CENTURY MARRIAGE RECORDS > > > > Do any marriage records exist for the late 1780's - early 1790's? Looking > > for a record on ABRAHAM CALKINS and ELIZABETH FREEMAN who were longtime > > Saratoga Co. residents. > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > Thank you. > > r/Steven > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

The results of my search can be categorized as close, but no cigar. I have an Elizabeth Freeman born on 14 January 1764 in Preston, New London, Connecticut. She married Abraham YARRINGTON, on 10 December 1789 in Preston, New London, Connecticut. She is descended from John Freeman (1600-1648) of Sudbury, Massachusetts There is also and Elizabeth Freeman born 13 April, 1764 in Lancaster, Worcester, Massachusetts. There is no Elizabeth Freeman born in 1763 in Bob's index. Bob does list an Elizabeth Freeman (1762-1816), who lived and died in Hanover, Grafton New Hampshire. When Bob was working on his book he conferred with the author of a genealogy about the Freeman families of New Jersey. In my research I have documented some families from New Jersey settling in the Saratoga Patent. So you may want to consult the New Jersey Freeman genealogy book. If you contact me off list, I'll write to my cousin Bob on your behalf. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnnylumen@comcast.net> To: <nysarato@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [NYSARATO] 18TH CENTURY MARRIAGE RECORDS > Leslie, > Elizabeth Freeman c1776 - 1829 > Abraham Calkins c1761 - 1833 > Thank you. > r/Steven > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > >> I have a copy of Robert R. Freeman's book, "The Freeman Families of New >> England in the 17th and 18th Centuries". I would be willing to do a >> look-up >> for you. However because of the many duplications of names and the manner >> in >> which Bob's material is indexed, I really need to know the birth date for >> the person whom I am looking up. A death date would be handy too. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:08 AM >> Subject: [NYSARATO] 18TH CENTURY MARRIAGE RECORDS >> >> >> > Do any marriage records exist for the late 1780's - early 1790's? >> > Looking >> > for a record on ABRAHAM CALKINS and ELIZABETH FREEMAN who were longtime >> > Saratoga Co. residents. >> > Any assistance would be appreciated. >> > Thank you. >> > r/Steven >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Leslie, Capt. Elisha Freeman b. 7/2/1731 - 1/1/1828, aged 97 y r/Steven -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > Just out of curiosity, what are the dates of birth and death for your Elisha > Freeman? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:20 AM > Subject: [NYSARATO] Cemetery Lookup > > > > Searching for burial location of Mercy Vincent Freeman said to have d. > > 9/28/1806 in Stephentown, Rensselaer Co., NY. Her husband, Elisha Freeman > > is bur. in Newtown Baptist Cemetery, Half Moon, Saratoga Co., NY, but > > cannot locate Mercy's grave there. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thank you. > > r/Steven Mitchell > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Searching for marriage record of Francis "Frank" Swartwout and Clarissa Calkins, said to have married in 1809 in Halfmoon, Saratoga Co. Any assistance would be most appreciated. Thank you. r/Steven Mitchell

Do any marriage records exist for the late 1780's - early 1790's? Looking for a record on ABRAHAM CALKINS and ELIZABETH FREEMAN who were longtime Saratoga Co. residents. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you. r/Steven

I have a copy of Robert R. Freeman's book, "The Freeman Families of New England in the 17th and 18th Centuries". I would be willing to do a look-up for you. However because of the many duplications of names and the manner in which Bob's material is indexed, I really need to know the birth date for the person whom I am looking up. A death date would be handy too. ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnnylumen@comcast.net> To: <NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: [NYSARATO] 18TH CENTURY MARRIAGE RECORDS > Do any marriage records exist for the late 1780's - early 1790's? Looking > for a record on ABRAHAM CALKINS and ELIZABETH FREEMAN who were longtime > Saratoga Co. residents. > Any assistance would be appreciated. > Thank you. > r/Steven > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just out of curiosity, what are the dates of birth and death for your Elisha Freeman? ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnnylumen@comcast.net> To: <nysarato-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [NYSARATO] Cemetery Lookup > Searching for burial location of Mercy Vincent Freeman said to have d. > 9/28/1806 in Stephentown, Rensselaer Co., NY. Her husband, Elisha Freeman > is bur. in Newtown Baptist Cemetery, Half Moon, Saratoga Co., NY, but > cannot locate Mercy's grave there. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thank you. > r/Steven Mitchell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for burial location of Mercy Vincent Freeman said to have d. 9/28/1806 in Stephentown, Rensselaer Co., NY. Her husband, Elisha Freeman is bur. in Newtown Baptist Cemetery, Half Moon, Saratoga Co., NY, but cannot locate Mercy's grave there. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. r/Steven Mitchell

Reference my earlier message on Abraham and Elizabeth. Their child Clarissa b. abt. 1785 married Frank Swartout. There is no further data on Clarissa. Suggest contacting the author Ken Calkins for possibly more details. - GAry -----Original Message----- From: nysarato-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nysarato-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of johnnylumen@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:01 PM To: nysarato@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYSARATO] MARRIAGE RECORDS Searching for marriage record of Francis "Frank" Swartwout and Clarissa Calkins, said to have married in 1809 in Halfmoon, Saratoga Co. Any assistance would be most appreciated. Thank you. r/Steven Mitchell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to "Calkins Family in America" by Ken Calkins Abraham Calkins was born abt. 1761 and died 4 May 1833 in Mechanicsville, Saratoga, NY. He married Elizabeth Freeman. They had 12 Children which are listed in the book. Let me know if you want the details but I suggest getting access to the book as it follows three of the children further. Gary -----Original Message----- From: nysarato-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nysarato-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of johnnylumen@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:08 AM To: NYSARATO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYSARATO] 18TH CENTURY MARRIAGE RECORDS Do any marriage records exist for the late 1780's - early 1790's? Looking for a record on ABRAHAM CALKINS and ELIZABETH FREEMAN who were longtime Saratoga Co. residents. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you. r/Steven ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone with Freeman information have a male named, L.J. Freeman? He is listed as the husband of Adelia Zinstine (1869-1890) she died at 21 yrs. Adelia is buried in Edinburg cemetery, Saratoga Co. Her parents lived in the Day, Batchellville area. Any leads welcomed in tracing this Freeman connection. Thanks. Lori Ellison ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnnylumen@comcast.net> To: <nysarato-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:20 AM Subject: [NYSARATO] Cemetery Lookup > Searching for burial location of Mercy Vincent Freeman said to have d. > 9/28/1806 in Stephentown, Rensselaer Co., NY. Her husband, Elisha Freeman > is bur. in Newtown Baptist Cemetery, Half Moon, Saratoga Co., NY, but > cannot locate Mercy's grave there. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thank you. > r/Steven Mitchell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYSARATO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tee, A number of my ancestors lived in Saratoga County. Some of the others lived in the area of Fulton County that was flooded when the Sacandaga Lake was built in the 1930s. I have not seen anything on the Kayaderossera Patent of 1708 in which much of the land you are interested in is located. Do you intend to have persons join your club? I would be interested in joining. Richard

Leslie, I am sure Samuel Right Brown who lived in Milton and Stillwater, either had a relative who went with this group, possibly a brother or sister, or dear friends. He was born in 1775 so he would have been old enough to have formed deep relationships with them.. I am in the process of finding out who his siblings were. I have hired a professional genealogist out of Salt Lake to solve some of my brick walls, and Samuel's siblings are a part of that wall. After 30 years of unsuccessful searching, I finally came to the conclusion I really needed help. Costly but hopefully effective. Samuel was also an owner/editor of the Saratoga newspaper in the early 1800s before he sold out and went to Albany and finally Auburn before his death in 1817 near Cherry Valley. He was on his way home from NYC where he was working on a business deal, probably with his new book that was about to be published. when he suddenly took ill and died in the home of strangers, the Fitch brother near Cherry Valley. Sonja ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.