Hello! I need birth / baptism records help also. Thorn Connell was born 1805 in Halfmoon, Saratoga Co, New York. This is per his obit. I would like to varify parents names. I think his dad may have been Isaac Connell who has a son the "right" age range on the 1810 Census. Isaac was a member of the Methodist Curicit in Halfmoon in 1810 and his father, John C. Connell (Thorn's grand pa?) was involved with the Dutch Reform Church there in Middleton, a Hamlet of Halfmoon. Margaret.

Does anyone know the exact date of the 1850 Malta, Saratoga Cnty. census? I have a relative that may have been in one cnty in one month and then in Saratoga another month of the same year. Thanks!

I've been tinkering with genealogy as a hobby for 30 some years, and the subject constantly reminds me I have LOTS to learn. Recently, I was trying to determine whether or not Moses LEWIS was really the person who in 1790 built the house in which I was born on the road between Fort Edward and South Glens Falls. A kind friend found a Moses Lewis in the 1790 census, and TWO entries in 1800, followed by one in 1810, and 1820. There are children and so on in later years, whom I know. So, I thought this will be rather straight forward to sort out--just get the original census records and record the names of 3-4 people who lived on each side of him for each Census. Then compare neighbors and try to sort out the two Moses. For example did Moses-1 come in 1790 and leave by 1810, while Moses-2 came before 1800 and remained until after 1820? Or did Moses-1 come in 1790 and stay till he died after 1820, with Moses-2 only living there for the 1800 census? Found the 1790 census in the local genealogical library. It is all neatly typeset. Indeed I did find several known neighbors listed. But I was wondering why one I knew, who lived 3 houses away on the same road, was listed 15 entries away? And why typeset? So, I found it interesting to read the 1790 census introductory pages. It was typeset from the originals in about 1904. the government did not give out forms. Each Assistant Marshall provided their own paper, in loose leaf form. These were bound later. Each Marshall's paper was a different size, hand ruled, etc. The originals are in the Archives in DC. The other interesting thing was that there were 540,000 people listed in the entire original 1790 US census, but only 400,000 names survive in the typeset version!! It did not say how the losses were distributed across states and counties. Some was war of 1812 damage. That may explain the statement in Sylvester's write-up of the Town of Moreau, in which he says: "Churchill, Porter and Hamlin came here in 1790 and Moses Lewis soon after--John Thompson lives in his house today." Maybe their records were lost?? Maybe the binder did not correctly "order" pages? My moral of this story: read the introductory pages to microfilms!!!!! We will see what the later Census records hold when we go to Phoenix this weekend. j John F. O'Hanlon O'Hanlon Consulting (There is "Nothing" to Vacuum) 1720 East Placita Padre Isidoro Tucson, AZ 85718-4027; Fax: 520-529-8225 [email protected]

Not sure if this helps but you might have a look at: http://www.rhinebeck.com/~kinshipny/ It seems that they have a fair amount of Saratoga area records. -----Original Message----- From: barbara mcadams [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 6:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Schodack Reformed Dutch Church Hi, My gggg-grandfather attended the Schodack Reformed Dutch Church back in 1792. I believe his daughter Marie Dubois married George Albertson in this church. I can't find anything on this church and wondered if it still exists. Did it change it's name. Where would the records have gone. Any help would be appreciated. Barb ______________________________

STILL researching Ebenezer SHERWOOD, b. 1740/1770, Milton, Saratoga Co., NY, wife Ruth, moved to Canada in 1802 - older sons, David and Orrin. Would appreciate any suggestions on how to break this brick wall that I have hit. Someone in the past mentioned that they thought his father MIGHT be Benjamin. Thanks! :-) Lyn .:*~*:.-.:*~*:.-:*~*:.-.:*~*:. Lyn McIntosh-Sherwood Winter Park, FLorida USA .:*~*:.-.:*~*:.-.:*~*:.-.:*~*:.

I think that's the one that also went by the name Muitzeskill Reformed Church (previously RDC of Schodack Landing). The records are available either on microfilm from your Family History Center or as part of The Vital Records of Schodack by Lauretta Harris. Dave barbara mcadams wrote: > > Hi, Does anyone have information on the Schadock Reformed Dutch > Church. I believe my ggg-grandparents were married there in 1812. > Can't find any record of this church. Could there have been a name > change. any help would be appreciated. > > Barb

Hi, Does anyone have information on the Schadock Reformed Dutch Church. I believe my ggg-grandparents were married there in 1812. Can't find any record of this church. Could there have been a name change. any help would be appreciated. Barb

Hi, My gggg-grandfather attended the Schodack Reformed Dutch Church back in 1792. I believe his daughter Marie Dubois married George Albertson in this church. I can't find anything on this church and wondered if it still exists. Did it change it's name. Where would the records have gone. Any help would be appreciated. Barb

HI, This is my first posting to this list. I'm looking for any information on Charity Ann albertson (daughter of George albertson and Marie Dubois). Charity was b. 1819 and married Cyrus Lewis. They had the following children. Maria b. 1838, Washington b. 1842, Orlando b. 1847. The last record I have of them (1850 census) is Malta. Charity was born in Milton. If anyone can shed any light on this family it would be appreciated. Thanks, Barb

1: == I have ordered two books from the NEHGS to which I belong: "Genealogical Guide to Saratoga County, by Field Horne, and "Gazetter of State of NY," by J. H. French. They will arrive ~Nov. 2nd. I will do Saratoga County looks up for anyone on this list. I'll be on travel until then, so please wait until I post a note saying they have arrived. Can't keep their books too long, so, think about a possible query... Sometimes when I see a book in the library, I can't remember why I wanted it!! 2: == The lines that are drawn like pie sections and horiz./vertical lines on the Beers map are supposed to be the original Kayadaroseras Patent markings. There were 25 Allotments, and each allotment was divided into 13 Lots. There were 13 Patentees, and they drew names for which Lot they would receive in each Allotment. I found a major error in the 20th Allotment (Town of Moreau) Lot 10 is actually Lots 10 and 11, Lot 11 is actually Lot 12, and what Beer's call Lots 12 and Lot 13 are actually Lot 13. Beer's draftsman made an error. I found the original Patent drawings in the Saratoga County Court house two weeks ago, and noticed Beer's sketch of Lot 10 looked to be about 1/5 as high as it is wide, whereas the original map showed it to be 1/10 as high as it is wide. To fix it, draw a horizontal line across the middle of Beer's Lot 10, leaving the east-to-west distances the same, but only half as high in the north-to-south direction. The map in Sylvester's History is correct. Thus, our farm was originally part of Lot 12, drawn by Nanning Hermance, and not lot 11 drawn by John Tudor. Mrs. Karen Campola, the County Historian, and her asociate, whose name I have forgotten, were most helpful! The moral: always double check secondary references!!!! Tracing the ownership of the land from then to Moses Lewis' occupancy in ~1790 may never be possible, but we will try. Some of those lands were owned by Loyalists, and when they fled to Canada after the Rev. War, some settlers simply took their lands; other lands owned by Loyalists were appropriated and sold by the new government. RE: Old names: The Kayadrosseras map of Lot 11, labels the 200 acre parcel closest to the Hudson (near the current Fort Edward Bridge) as "the ferry lot." Apparently its owner was named Jones (of Jane McCrea fame). Until the war it was called "Jones Ferry." After the War Gen. Thomas Rogers appropriated that land and it was called "Rogers Ferry," until the Fort Edward Bridge was built (around mid 1820's??) Ahh, and now I think of all the time I spent sleeping behind my textbook when Sparky Vaughn was trying to teach American History at South Glens Falls Hi! cheers, gone till Nov. 2. j John F. O'Hanlon O'Hanlon Consulting (There is "Nothing" to Vacuum) 1720 East Placita Padre Isidoro Tucson, AZ 85718-4027; Fax: 520-529-8225 [email protected]

Hello All, This is the first time I have inquired about this family. I am searching for descendants of William HAYES. He was born in Ireland in about 1775. He married Maria ALSDORF in Clifton Park in about 1826. Both William and Maria are buried in the Clifton Park Baptist Church Cemetery. They had a son names Elias HAYES. The baptisms in the church record indicate that there were a number of children or grandchildren in this family. Does anyone have any information about this family. Richard Hayes [email protected]

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Is there a reference book or listing for Saratoga Cnty (Malta area) that may list marriages in September 1829? I am looking for something on the marriage of Seaman LAWRENCE and Eleanor MOREHOUSE. Thanks! Dianne

If anyone on this list has access to either the Saratoga Springs Presbyterian Church records, or the Reformed Church (Amity Church?) at Halfmoon, I'd love you to do a lookup for me. Thanks if you can help. David See [email protected]

Hi: I'm trying to get more information on the HEMPHILL family living around Ballston, Saratoga NY about 1780-1800. In particular, I am interested in any further details on the marriage listed below. Alexander HEMPHILL married Debora MEAD Date: 2 Jun 1789 Ballston Center, First Presbyterian Church At Ballston, Saratoga, New York Batch number: M511041 Does anyone have access to the church records from the "First Presbyterian Church at Ballston"? What census records might exist for Ballston around 1750-1800? Any help is appreciated. Thanks Greg HEMPHILL [email protected]

I don't know if this will help, but there is a Forts Ferry Road in Latham, New York (between Troy and Schenectady) off of Route 7 (Troy-Schenectady Road). It goes from Route 7 to River Road which is very close to the Mohawk River near the western border of Albany Coumty. It is due north of the Albany International Airport. Gary Craver Albany, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: John O'Hanlon <vac[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 3:15 PM Subject: Re: Fort's Ferry > I dont think I can be of much help. The only pages of Sylvester I have are > photocopies of the County Map (1840) and stuff about the Kayadroseras > Patent. I do note that on the (west) Saratoga County side of the Hudson, > across from Fort Miller, is a little dot with the words "Fort Falls." > Beyond this I am afraid I cannot be of much help. > > > At 06:31 AM 09/26/1999 -0700, you wrote: > > Hi John, Now that I know where Visscher's Ferry was located, can you > >pinpoint where Fort's Ferry was located? I know that it was on the Mohawk > >River. From the family history, it was in use until the early 1920's. > >Richard Hayes > >[email protected] > John F. O'Hanlon > O'Hanlon Consulting (There is "Nothing" to Vacuum) > 1720 East Placita Padre Isidoro > Tucson, AZ 85718-4027; Fax: 520-529-8225 > [email protected] > > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > >

I dont think I can be of much help. The only pages of Sylvester I have are photocopies of the County Map (1840) and stuff about the Kayadroseras Patent. I do note that on the (west) Saratoga County side of the Hudson, across from Fort Miller, is a little dot with the words "Fort Falls." Beyond this I am afraid I cannot be of much help. At 06:31 AM 09/26/1999 -0700, you wrote: > Hi John, Now that I know where Visscher's Ferry was located, can you >pinpoint where Fort's Ferry was located? I know that it was on the Mohawk >River. From the family history, it was in use until the early 1920's. >Richard Hayes >[email protected] John F. O'Hanlon O'Hanlon Consulting (There is "Nothing" to Vacuum) 1720 East Placita Padre Isidoro Tucson, AZ 85718-4027; Fax: 520-529-8225 [email protected]

John O'Hanlon wrote: > > Sylvester's map shows "Bemis Heights Post Office" (circa 1840) to be > located about 2.5 miles north of Stillwater Falls, on the Hudson River. > Alternatively, it is 5.5 miles north of Mechanicsville. About a mile and a > half W-NW of Bemis Heights P.O., are imprinted the words "Bemis Heights." > About one mile north of the words Bemis Heights are imprinted the words > "Battleground." Though I know not what battle was fought there. Since > Sylvester's book was published in 1860, it probably refers to a > Revolutionary War battle. > Why, you're right! It's there on the DeLorme Atlas, but wasn't indexed. It's the "Saratoga Battlefield", at the north end of Stillwater. > By the way I saw the surname BOYCE on the tagline... > > Jerome Boyce is listed in the 1850 Census of the Town of Moreau, and in > 1856, his name is listed in a deed of sale of what would become our farm > from Minerva Lewis to John Thompson. He lived just to the south of our > home on the Fort Edward to South Glens Falls Road) I'm not really up on BOYCEs, but I know that, like the SEEs, they settled early on in Philipsburgh (Tarrytown) down in Westchester and spread northward. The Sees of that town were originally French. The name Boyce, or Buys, sounds Dutch. As for the Kay-der-oss Patent (I forget how to spell it, but I was told how to pronounce it; there's a Kay-der-oss deli in Rensselaer) -- when I visited Ballston, I went briefly to the historical society house there, and there was someone doing research on the Patent. Said that tracts were sold by lottery. They would use a young boy to pull the slips out of a hat, and whoever's name was pulled out would get the tract. At the time, it didn't seem that relevant to what I was researching, so I didn't pursue the conversation. (that's the trouble with doing a research trip with a precise focus and limited time). The point, though, is that maybe someone at the society now could say more about the Patent and it's early settlers. I sure haven't seen anything in print about early records, though. Good luck! David See who owns three cats and a dog, and don't tell *me* there's "nothing" to vacuum!

In the book SARATGOA COUNTY HERITAGE published in 1974 by Saratgoa Co. Historian Violet B. Dunn page 440: Town of Moreau "Whipple Creek: Dexter Whipple and Elisha Danford located east of South Glenn Falls about 1800. It was a small settlement, including a blacksmith shop, school (No. 6), and several farms. Nothing remains except the cemetery. There was a log cabin Friends Meeting near the cemetery and also a trading post where Indians came to trade." Can anyone tell where I can find Whipple Creek. It is not listed on any maps I am researching the Whipple family from the town of Moreau in Saratgoa Co. Dexter Whipple was married to Rebecca Danford. I do believe that Elisha Danford was her brother. Dexter and Rebecca had a son named Ammie D Whipple. I would appreciate any help in finding Whipple Creek and any info on the Whipple family. Dorothy

>Hi John, > >Glad you have joined the list! I hope you will post any information you >receive about these ferries or others. My Saratoga County ancestors arrived >about 1788 from CT and I enjoy learning (as you do) about the area as it was >when they arrived and while they remained. > >By the way, do you have any information about the Kayadroseras Patent? Is >there an online site? Thanks for any help. > >Pat Blackwell > Thank you, The only information I have on the Kayadroseras Patent is its description as given by Sylvester, in his book entitled "History of Saratoga County," which was kindly sent to me by another local history researcher. It has a map of the County with the allotments and lot numbers given, but I have no other information to vouch for its authenticity. I will post anything I learn about the ferries, regards, j John F. O'Hanlon O'Hanlon Consulting (There is "Nothing" to Vacuum) 1720 East Placita Padre Isidoro Tucson, AZ 85718-4027; Fax: 520-529-8225 [email protected]