Hello....here are my Saratoga connections: Walter H RIKER, born 1822 in NY (don't know where yet) but listed in 1850 and 1860 census for Saratoga Springs. Married Mary Jane TYLER in early 1850s, I think, as their son, George RIKER was born in 1854. I am waiting for my 1860 census CD from Heritage Quest to see what information there is. From Masonic records, I know Walter transferred to a Philadelphia lodge in 1899 and entered the Phila Masonic Home in 1904 where he died in 1913. I am new to Saratoga research, so not sure where to write for these early records, such as Walter's birth cert. Any suggestions most appreciated. Louise Subers Viola Park Ridge NJ

Jackie Perkins Horton researching the following in Saratoga County NY: Joseph Bates who married Amelia Babcock probably in Saratoga Co. Amelia Babcock's father Thomas Babcock died c1824 in Saratoga County (will in court records) Joseph & Amelia were in Cortland County NY. Their children Daniel, Alvin (ended up in Dakota Co MN), Zerua m. Zenis Conger burried Cortland), Alexander m. Lavina Yale also burried Cortland), Briggs C. lived in Madison Co NY, Helen M. Moses Yale lived Cortland, Angelina & Diantha both burried cortland. Thomas Babcock's children: Patty m. a Burdick; Diadamus m. a Hoard; Phebe m. a Parks; Rebecca m. a Phebe. Elisha Babcock migrated to Ohio. Thomas Babcock lived in western NY. Thomas' wife was Olive and one of the witnesses of his will was an Ephraign (spelling) Babcock. Trying to find parents of both Thomas Babcock his wife and Joseph Bates.

Looking for Daniel WEEKS, b. 19 Feb 1741 in Saratoga Co., NY; m. Mary unknown probably in Saratoga Co., served in Revolutionary War in a unit from Albany, fought in the battle of Saratoga; moved to Delaware Co., OH about 1810-1815 d. 12 Feb 1817 in Delaware Co., OH; bur. Galena Cemetery. Children: Jacob (1769-1840), Daniel (1781-1828), Gilbert (1783 or 1781-1835), Barak (1791-1876), also Stephen, John, & James, all probably born in the 1770s, and maybe others. Related Surnames: FISHER, HATCH, ROSS, WILLIAMS Alternate Spellings: WICKS, WIX, WICKES, WEEKES Family may have been from: Vermont or New York Family migrated to: Delaware Co., OH and later to Iowa and Kansas Thanks, Kristi Gebhart [email protected]

Hi Great Idea. Franklin Holmes b1874,d5/31/1949 Born in Saratoga Springs and lived in Altamont,N.Y. Married Ora Crary. Looking for his parents. Mordecai Johnson b1887 d1950. From Lewis countyN.Y. and settled on a farm near Ballston Spa. Mother Carrie L and sister E Madge. Need any and all info on the family. Thanks, Barbara ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I'm trying to locate information about William Pitts born in Saratoga County on 9 May 1815, parents unknown. By 1840 he was in Tompkins County with his wife, Anna Belle Fischer, and one child, and by 1850 the family was in Sauk County, Wisconsin. Any suggestions on how to find William would be sincerely appreciated. Margie from Oregon

Tim The names, addresses and phone numbers for all of the Saratoga County clerks and historians are on the Saratoga County GenWebPage which is maintained by Heritage Hunters. You will also find the the local repositories where you will find resources with Saratoga information. We have included the historians and repositories of neighboring counties and need to add some more but there is information on Saratoga people to be found outside of Saratoga County. If you have not visited the Saratoga page, you should and check out the many records and features that volunteers have provided and continue to add to. After visiting other web pages, you will see that ours is a lot easier to search and quite a quantity of information so far. Check us out: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysarato/> You might want to call the Saratoga County Historian, rather than the County Clerk. There are a few marriages (I think early 1900's) at the County Clerk's office but they do not have any deaths or births. They would be located in the town clerk's. The deeds, mortgages, census (they don't have them all), maps and other records are to be found here. They also have Naturalizations, some old court records and some other old things, yet to be indexed and identified. I was in the vault today and glanced through some court records that start in 1805. There are other sources of vital records in the County Historian's - cemetery records, Durkee's Epitaghs, Durkee's Vital Records, Ritchie's Collection, Kinship's Valley Quarterlies, most of the books about Saratoga County, town files, genealogy files and lots more. Having visited other County Historian's I will tell you that you will probably not find a county collection anywhere that is as large and as well organized as we have. If you are searching Saratoga County, this is THE first place to start. The County Clerk is upstairs in this building and the Surrogate Court - wills and estates, is in the building directly behind. One-stop shopping (searching), so to speak. Brookside, Saratoga County Historical Society is nearby with quite a collection of information in books, some personal papers, Bibles and other information including genealogy files. They have a web site and an email address: [email protected] and do have a researcher there who will search for a fee around the local records. Brookside just received a grant to purchase the necessary equipment to scan and photograph their entire collection and have it all up on their internet site. This will be the first museum in the USA to ever do this and are seeking volunteers to help with this enormous project. A couple of blocks away is the Ballston Spa Library which has some collections of material including the Ballston Journal Newspaper which goes quite away back. Volunteers have created an index to the paper and last I knew are up to about the 1880's. If you find an ancestor in that index, you will find the event, date and a notation of the issue (date) in the Ballston Journal that it is in will be in. This often yields an article about the event which might include other family members. There are cemetery records, genealogies and other materials in this library to search. They also have a unique collection - The Manzer Collection. Mr. Manzer searched the world and created an index and collection of anything that contained any information about any part of Saratoga County. The index is about 1 1/2 inches thick and worth studying for other sources of information Well after all of this, have you called to see when the next flight north is departing? God Bless Ruth Ann [email protected] - --------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Morrissey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Phone number? Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 06:55:27 -0500 Message-ID: <[email protected]> I am thinking I need to start with a call to the County Clerk of Saratoga County. Can anybody help with a name and a number? Any other advice on this? Any help appreciated. Even snowier in North Carolina and a LONG way from Saratoga County... Slainte, Tim ============================== The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: 12.8 million individuals and counting. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ --------- End forwarded message ---------- ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Is anyone researching the name CONLOGUE?

I am thinking I need to start with a call to the County Clerk of Saratoga County. Can anybody help with a name and a number? Any other advice on this? Any help appreciated. Even snowier in North Carolina and a LONG way from Saratoga County... Slainte, Tim

Realized, I did not include the following information There are many sources for vital records at NYS Library and Archives. Most people think that all there are would be those on microfiche in the Archives and you purchase them from NYS Health Dept. The vital records held by the NYS Health Dept in Albany, do not include NY City excepts for births occuring in Queens and Richmond counties from 1881 through 1897. Original records of births and marriages for the entire state begin in 1881, deaths begin 1880 EXCEPT for records filed in Albany, Buffalo and Yonkers prior to 1914. (Some of the towns did not get busy and send them in until about 1883 so there are only a few microfiche in the 1880-1882 index) Suggestion - If you are limited in spending money, go for a death certificate as you get more information at the end of the person's life. Be sure you request the complete certificate which includes parents, mother's maiden name, places of birth and all the information. Don't leave that to chance when you write anywhere. You could receive a certificate of birth or death which simply states the person (named) was born on (date) in this township. The forms used by various towns varies but are basic in info. Death Certificates usually include: name, date of death, place of death, including town, county and state. the date and place of birth, age at death (yr mo dy), marital status with spouse's name (maiden if a wife). Occupation, last year employed, sometimes place of employment. Father's name and place of birth. Mother's name (maiden) and place of birth. The informant (usually a family member) Cause of death and duration of illness and other contributing cause(s). The physician's statement, funeral home name and address, place and date of burial. Marriage license/ certificate ( could be 2 papers license and marriage) full name of bride and groom and age. Place of birth. Sometimes date of birth. parent's info (as above) for bride and groom. occupation of each residence of each future residence after marriage How many previous marriages, status-widowed/divorced. The divorced usually require the names and address of their previous spouse. Marriage has signature of person performing ceremony and witnesses. Birth certificate Has full name of child (if unnamed at time of registering, they are listed as male or female) On index would just be a m or f , date and place of birth. Date and place of birth. Parents including mother's maiden name and their places of birth and their ages. Number of births that mother previously had. How many now living. Their residence at time of birth of this child. Parent's usual occupation may be on this also. The more recent birth records include height and weight of baby and time of delivery These are what to expect when you obtain a vital record from the Health Dept. There are other sources at NYS Library and Archives such as church records, cemetery records, town clerk records, Bible records, newspapers, city directories, genealogies, military records, census records, diaries and personal papers, and more. So if you are unable to find a name and date where you think, do not give up but keep looking for more sources. On county level, there are other vital records such as in probate records including guardianships. There are some marriages in Saratoga County Clerk's office for a short time period. Naturalizations are on county level and sometimes include dates and places of birth, listing the spouse and children including their dates and places. Check indexes to other records in a court house such as civil actions, power-of-attorney, pistol permits, etc. Hope this gives you a few more choices. Always strive to find at least 3 sources of information proving each of your vital records. If you find a discrepancy in the 3, then you need to find other sources until you feel certain that you have the date God Bless Ruth Ann [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

If your write to the NYS Health Dept in Albany to obtain a vital records, make a longggggggggggggg list of things you would like to do while you wait. They are always at least 6 months in returning your vital record (or that they don't have it) but they cash your check upon receipt. Their current statement is that it could be 6 months to two years. If you write to a town clerk, there are some who may look them up and some who will not. There are some who will sell you a copy and some who will not. They charge anywhere from $1.00 to the standard $11. Some have charged $15. These are not certified and to be stamped "for genealogical purposes only". Most get them back to you in about two weeks or less but some could be a couple of months. According to Robert Freeman, from the Freedom of Information Law, they are to sell them to you and should provide that service to you with a two week period. There are some clerks who are overwhelmed and cannot get all of their work done in a few days. In the Concourse in Empire Plaza in Albany which adjoins the NYC Library and Archives is ANOTHER office of the NYC Health Dept. If you hand deliver your form with the info and the ID# and pay the $11. per vital record, you get them within about 10 days (and less) although they are instructed to tell you it could be 30 days. The vital records index are located in the Archives on the 11th floor of the NYC Ed building and the genealogy floor in the NYC Library is located on the 7th floor. Museum is on the 1st floor or ground level. If you look up the vital records and find the person, you fill in the form, spelling the name JUST as you found it even if it is different from what you know or have. Take the 4-5 digit number as well. It looks like this Born, died or married: Smith John 18 Jan Saratoga Springs 12345 This means the event for John Smith happened in Saratoga Springs on 18 Jan and when it was sent by the Saratoga Springs clerk to NYC Health Dept, they assigned it the next number of the day which was 12345. NOW you must be told, as I recently learned, that this may not be true in all cases. A marriage I looked up was in Waterford and that is what the record said. I looked it up in the newspaper as well as I went to the Waterford clerk to purchase it. It wasn't there. They purchased the license in Troy, were married at a minister's home in Waterford and he sent it back to the place it was obtained - Troy. BUT the place of marriage was in Waterford. Only after purchasing it did we find it was issued and returned in Troy. But for the most part, these are located in the town where the event happened 99% of the time anyway. JUST remember. They could live anywhere but many circumstances could place the vital record in another town, not the one they reside in. They could have an accident anywhere and die instantly and brought home for burial. Some babies are not born at home but come along rather quickly while mother is away or maybe she went to a relative's home to have them help her after delivery so the birth takes place some other place but not in the town of residence. There are many tricks to the vital records and I must tell you that some records do get lost to fire and floods but if the courthouse was standing and they sent them to Albany, then Albany would still have them. Whitney Point in Broome County had a fire and it burned the whole town down. Rebuilt and a flood wiped it out many years later. When my cousin tried to obtain his ancestor's vital records, we really did not believe them when they told us that. At Binghamton Library, in the history of Whitney Point, are numerous pictures of the remains of the fire and numerous picture of the town under water. Oh, Oh! Do I owe the clerk an apology for what I thought!!. I order a lot of vital records AFTER looking them up and getting that ID#. The Health Dept could not find one, even though I found it on their microfiche index in the Archives. They owe me a refund of $11. When I asked how soon I might expect it, they said up to 15 weeks. So that was the end of October and I have not received it yet. All they need to do is make out a check but even that takes that other office a long time to get out. That ID# has nothing to do with the town clerk so do not use it when writing to them if you have located it on the microfiche index. God Bless Ruth Ann [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

The information on the certificates that I've seen varies somewhat in completeness and quality. Sometimes parents' places of birth are given specifically, sometimes not. The information depends on the knowledge of the informer, who may or may not have known, say, the names of the decedents parents. Sometimes the age at death is accurate, some times not. It's always good to have more than one source for this information! Dave again Tim Morrissey wrote: > > What info would be on > it? Parents names? Place of birth? >

Tim, I haven't yet seen death certificates at county offices. NY state started requiring Vital Records keeping in 1881, although compliance by the communities was sort of gradual so not all events were recorded at first. One of my g-g-aunts died in Wilton in 1882, for instance, but there was no record of her death simply because Wilton hadn't gotten it together yet. If you're a bit lucky, you'll be able to simply call the local clerk (assuming you know the exact locality) and get the information free over the phone. That was my experience with Ghent & Hillsdale, NY. More likely it'll cost you a little something and you'll get the info by mail in a couple weeks (That's the case with Saratoga Springs for instance. You can call and they will check and say, "Yeah, we have it" and send you a form.). Some localities, though, (Lansingburgh, Bath) have lost their earlier records through some accident or other, in which case, you'll need to write the state dept. of health at Albany, which keeps duplicate records, and it might take months (I havent' yet resorted to this, but I plan to in a couple of cases). Them's the breaks. It all depends. Dave in Johnson City, Tennessee Tim Morrissey wrote: > > I need a little advice, not having ever done any formal record looking > in NY state... > Would a death cert likely exist for a person prior to 1900? Would I > find that death cert in the county clerk's office? What info would be on > it? Parents names? Place of birth? > > Obviously I am looking for info on folks from Saratoga County so any > help from you folks is greatly appreciated. > Naive in snowy North Carolina. > Slainte, > Tim > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

I need a little advice, not having ever done any formal record looking in NY state... Would a death cert likely exist for a person prior to 1900? Would I find that death cert in the county clerk's office? What info would be on it? Parents names? Place of birth? Obviously I am looking for info on folks from Saratoga County so any help from you folks is greatly appreciated. Naive in snowy North Carolina. Slainte, Tim

I am looking for information on the parents of George Prentice b. 1793 somewhere in Saratoga Co, NY. This man died in 1860 in Niagara Co, NY. Thank you, Cheri Salz

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Fellow listers. Do any of you know if Stephen McIntosh was the son of Henry and Elizabeth McIntosh? I think he is the same Stephen that was killed by a train in the Ballston Spa Area also. Would like any info please Sharon

This person is no relation to me. I was making a database of some early Oconto Co.WI deaths and came across this one. TABER, Daniel, age 44, father-George, mother-Elisabeth,occ., lumberman, born 14 Oct 1835, Saratoga co.,NY, wife-Nettie,died 16 Oct 1879 in Oconto,WI, Linda Peshtigo,WI

Does anyone have an updated e-mail address for Ted Lambert? His e-mail link is posted on the Saratoga genweb site (surnames), but it bounced. Dave See

Cheri On Internet, go to NYS LIbrary site. <www.nysl.nysed.gov> On the home page, scroll down just a little and you will see NYS Newspaper Project Click on that Next click on microfilm - you will be given 2 choices 1) newspapers on microfilm AT NYS LIBRARY (some go back to 1725) 2) newspapers on microfilm NOT AT NYS LIBRARY - AROUND NYS To see what is at NYS Library click on#1 To see what is at other places around NYS click on #2 #2 usually shows you local newspapers that are in libraries, historic societies, and other repositories in the local of where the newspaper was circulated BUT many of these are also available in collections at Cornell University Library, New York CITY Public Library, SUNY Binghamton, New York State Historical Society in Cooperstown and other large collections. You should know that many of these microfilms are available from NYS Library and many of these repositories thru inter library loan but they only go to a library. Some will only loan to libraries in NYS while some will send them to college libraries only (which is usually for study projects). This varies so much that it is a one-on-one contact to determine what policy is. You can usually find a website for these places and I have found that by going to GenWebPages for the counties, there are usually links to these repositories and their pages usually have instructions for loan. It is most fascinating to see how many newspapers were really published and have often thought that people over 150 years ago were illiterate but this has changed my thinking on that as these are loaded with articles from around the world, complete literary series which took up whole pages at a time each issue. Certainly people were reading a lot of newspapers. One thing that is very important to keep in mind is that there were many newspapers published by the ethnic groups and that may be the only place that you will find some of these people's obits. SO MANY local newspapers did not carry the obits for some groups unless they were very well known. The German newspapers were circulated to many of your major cities and any place where there was any concentration of German immigrants. This might be true of, say a NY City German publicaton. So someone in midstate NY might show up in a German publication that is not published in that area but circulated. There were a lot more newspaper subscriptions years ago and this is how these groups kept in touch with what was going on in their mother county in Europe. Takes some work, but could give some rewards for your efforts. I am gradually exploring these as I do estate searching for a firm and have had to pull a few of these but that is a project for another time. 2050 maybe. I have just written an article for Heritage Hunters newsletter (Feb-Mar) which is being compiled right now and I have discovered that newspapers from surrounding counties have quite a bit of Saratoga information that most does not appear in the Saratoga Springs and Ballston Spa newspapers. There are columns for towns in eastern Saratoga in Troy and other Rensselaer newspapers as well as Albany and Schenectady (even today). Western Saratoga county will be found in the Amsterdam and the Gloversville-Johnstown area newspapers. These carry all kinds of information about events and happenings in Saratoga County. By joining Heritage Hunters, you receive 5 annual newsletters that are 16 pages and just full of information, most to do with Saratoga. But we also interact with several other genealogical and historical societies and have a calendar which contains their events also. We currently have an index to the Surrogate's files which includes the names, dates and file numbers for all Testate, Intestate and Guardianships. We are up to about the J's right now and do have a few sets of 1999 newsletters left. We have had a series of the history of Saratoga Co. towns going which is complete. Our members and friends contribute to this newsletter and it is one of the best you will find. We have monthly meetings which have at least on speaker on topics to do with genealogy, history or how-to, what-to and where-to. This Saturday we start a morning series of beginning genealogy from Jan to May. Our monthly meetings are normally noon to 4pm. Our meetings are very informative and our members and guests take the floor and contribute more to help others find more answers. Have you visited the Saratoga GenWebPage which is maintained by the volunteers of Heritage Hunters? We can always use people (anywhere outside of Saratoga too) in compiling information for our newsletter and GenWebPage. Any volunteers out there? Visit our informative website <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysarato/> You need to visit from time to time as there are frequent additions. For membership information contact Carol at [email protected] She only has a few sets left of the complete set of 1999 newsletters. Anyone wishing to help with other projects, please contact me and I will get that to the person in charge of the different projects. We have different kinds of projects and also need people to go to locations, including cemeteries, and copy them. Some cannot do that but have a computer and can do the data entry after they are copied. There are great projects going on at other places and we can help direct people to those. To contact our newsletter editor (to contribute for newsletter) contact Fletcher [email protected] God Bless Ruth Ann [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I recently spoke with a nice lady at St Marys RC in Waterford. This is the St Marys with the cemetery. She promised to do some look ups for me but added that she was real busy. I am sure she has plenty to do with out me adding to her work load. Any body have any ideas on trying to find my great grand mother's family which I am pretty sure lies with all the souls in that cemetery? Looking for the BURNEYS , RICHARD and KATHARINE, PATRICK and MICHAEL, plus some others if these show up. Any help appreciated. Slainte, Tim Morrissey, whose entire family passed through Waterford 1851-1863, from where?? Where else...County Waterford Ireland.