Hi All, Wish I could get to NY, your libraries sound wonderful, but as I'm way out in CO, I'd like to purchase a book on Saratoga County history. I'm most interested in the period around the Revolutionary War and for a couple of decades on either side. I'd like one that mentions my ancestors (WEEKS/WICKS/WIX), but not realistically expecting that. I'm wondering if any of you have seen any of these books and which, if any, you'd recommend (or not). All are available at bn.com. They're a little pricey, so I'll probably only buy one right now. Thanks, Kristi Gebhart [email protected] History of Saratoga County, New York: Sixteen Hundred Nine to Eighteen Seventy-Eight by Nathaniel Bartlett Sylvester Cornelius E. Durkee History of Saratoga County, with Historical Notes on Its Various Towns, together with Biographical Sketches of Its Prominent Men and Leading Citizens, Nathaniel B. Sylvester S. T. Wiley (Editor) W. S. Garner (Editor) Saratoga County, Our County and Its People: A Descriptive and Biographical Record of Saratoga, CO., N. Y. Staff Saratogian George E B. Anderson Saratoga: Turning Point of America's Revolutionary War, Richard M. Ketchum Grantors in the Registry of Deeds of Saratoga County, as Contained in Libers A-S, 1792-1831 Edward D. Harris (Editor) (Hey, What about the Ws????) Hand-Book of Saratoga and Strangers' Guide, R. L. Allen Reminiscences of Saratoga, Cornelius E. Durkee (Editor)

Hello All, My ancestor, David HAYES, left Saratoga County during the early 1840's. He went all of the way to Broadalbin in Fulton County. I know all about the family while they lived in Fulton County, but I have never really found anything about this family while they lived in Clifton Park. They were members of the Baptist Church there. David's father was William HAYES. Both David and William are listed in the 1820 US Census. He married Rachel in about 1821. This family left Ireland in about 1817. Why did they settle in Clifton Park? Were there persons from his part of Ireland living there? David grew flax made linen cloth. Does anyone have anything on the availability of flax seed or other flax growers from this area? Elias T. HAYES is the step brother of David HAYES. He was born 10 Jun 1828 and probably has descendants living in Saratoga County. Does anyone have any information about this family? Richard Hayes >From the shores of Grand Traverse Bay [email protected]

Warren YOUNG, b. 1832 in Calwell, Warren County m. 1871 to Rachel HANAMAN, b. 1835 Moreau Twp, Saratoga County. They moved first to Rock County, WI, then 1875 to Clark Co. WI. We think he possibly received his 160-acre-bounty land as a Civil War soldier. j John F. O'Hanlon O'Hanlon Consulting (There is "Nothing" to Vacuum) 1720 East Placita Padre Isidoro Tucson, AZ 85718-4027; Fax: 520-529-8225 [email protected]

Justin (and others) I am not sure what all Bob Crawford has on his Family Tree Maker site but this is where his genealogy of the Crawfords and some of the allied families are to be found. I have a copy of his genealogy in my computer and his gang is all over MI. When I checked the surnames you posted against the index to his 27,000 plus entries he has people by several of your surnames in MI. Try this site: www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/r/a/Robert-C-Crawford/index.html and check out the various families. He gets a phone call or email about every week from someone who connects and adds 100+ more to his file. Please give me some first names to the Stewarts, Deans, should that have been Phelps? Then give me Phelps too. Those surnames are all in his data base. Folks, if you are just starting out doing your genealogy, I want to encourage you to keep at it. Bob Crawford showed up at the office at Greenridge Cemetery here in Saratoga Springs, NY in October 7 years ago. I was sitting there in the books. He had driven from MI with his wife Betty Ann and two dogs hoping to find just one tid-bit that would say his ancestor Robert Crawford really had lived in Saratoga County before moving to MI. WELL, by the end of that week, he was so overwhelmed by the load of things we found that he actually had to leave the NYS Library at 3pm because he couldn't take anymore. We had run around to cemeteries, libraries, historians and anything else we could think of sun to dark, Mon-Thur and then to NYS Library on Friday. One archival box with a bunch of Crawford papers absolutely blew his mind. When I came back to his table with a load of DAR books for him to look at next, he had packed up his brief case and said we were leaving. I thought he was joking until I looked at his face and as he handed me the papers I could see he was shook up. He said "I had only hoped to find that the Crawfords were in Saratoga, look at this." The papers took them back from Saratoga to Westchester County, NY to Stamford, Ct to Tyrone, Ireland and were filled with stories about them and their allied families. Oh yeah, earlier in the day we made a huge discovery of 6 big boxes in the Archives of one of the allied families of Saratoga Springs which had Bible records, their diaries, all their legal papers (wills, deeds and other) as well as newspaper clippings, photos of many different people and the genealogy of all of the local people. We had been to almost all of their graves and photographed them that week. So keep on plugging. Bob bought the two microfilms of Durkee's Epitaghs of Saratoga County and placed them at the Saratoga Springs Public Library so anyone coming here could have ready access to them. They have seen a lot of use in the past 7 years. God Bless Ruth Ann [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Bruce I just spoke to Dottie Mitchell and she got out her copy of the Banta Genealogy or at least what she copied from it - her line. It is at NYS Library and called "A Frisian Family, The Banta Genealogy" by Theodore M. Banta published 1893 Your Arie Banta b 1797 Saratoga Co is the son of Hildebrant Banta d 04 Sep 1832 & Debra Van Epps dau/o Abraham Van Epps Hildebrant was in the Ballston Regt. in Rev. War His widow Debra, residing in Perth, Fulton, NY is on the application for pension When he enlisted, he lived in Clifton Park, His regiment is credited with driving the Tories out of Mohawk Valley. son Arie Banta b 1797 had 3 wives 1) Nancy Van Wormer 2) Dorcas Worth 3) Ruth Ann Taylor Hildebrant is older brother of Dottie's Peter Banta Hildebrant's parents Arie Banta Elizabeth Lozier dau/o Hildebrant Lozier b Sep 1737 d 20 Dec 1811 and Christine DeBaun This book goes back to the first Banta to come to America n 1640. She said that the book is available to buy at NEHGS in Boston. Someone else on this list had a John Van Vranken who married an Elizabeth Banta. She is the sister of Arie b 1797 and dau/o Hildebrant Banta and Debra Van Epps There is also a Van Vranken genealogy at NYS Library. God Bless Ruth Ann [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Pat Vale Cemetery is in Schenectady. God Bless Ruth Ann [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Stillwater April 27 1880 "A burgler gained and entrance into Uncle Jimmie Fitzgeralds residence Friday night, Upon the cry reaching Jimmies ear he called to his sister to bring his shilleheh, then like a gallant knight he rushed toward to confront whtever might oppose him. At this juncture his sister cried out that she ahd captured the intruder and pointed to the cradle. 'Sold' cried the old man, ' but faix it is better so for I am now a grandfather and my Tommy is daddy, The newcomer weighted 11 3/4 pounds. We did not learn whether he gained an entrance to the house by the front or rear door"

In 1854, Orramel, Ebenezer and Aaron Cook with their wives and children, left Charlton and Galway Saratoga ending up in Whitewater, Walworth co, WI......... A lot of people seemed to have headed out about the same time....... Jesse

Hi Saratoga County, CORRECTION: I get excited about genealogy, and especially when I have just found a cousin. That was the case when I posted the below. I'm sorry if I steered anyone wrong when I misnamed my own ancestor in this post. It was supposed to read : Alfred and Rachel AVERY Edwards. Rachel's mother was a Stevens. Jan On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:43:31 -0500 Janice S Thompson <[email protected]> writes: >Believe I connect to this line through Alfred Edwards b abt 1845, >waiting >for NYS death certificate as proof. If so I have possible children of >Alfred and Rachel STEVENS Avery. > >Jan Thompson jsmt @juno.com > >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

All the MORRISSEYs in my family went to Waterford, NY from Waterford Ireland. Patrick in NY 1851, married there in 1854 then on to Wisconsin. First to Racine then to elkhorn, Walworth County. DANIEL did the same in 1855. WILLIAM comes in through Boston, 1856, then to Elkhorn in 1857. Then back to Waterford in 1863 to be married to ANNE BURNEY at St Marys RC. Then back to Elkhorn. What is up with this??? Slainte, Tim

Hi, I know of some people from Saratoga that went west. My ancestor, Henry Edwards, his wife, Sarah "Sally" Baker Edwards, and at least one son, Lewis B. Edwards, and one daughter, Anna Edwards, went to Bloomfield, Green County, Indiana around 1820. Another family from Saratoga also went, the Van Vorst family. Also, my 2nd great grandfather, Byron Edwards, and his wife, Helen Rickerson, went first to Delavan, Walworth County, Wisconsin around 1856. Rumor has it that they went then to Indiana, but I have not yet found them there. After that, they went to El Dorado, Butler County, Kansas around 1881-2. And then Byron homesteaded in Lincoln County, Oklahoma in 1892-96. I hope this will help someone. Kim Nichols

I have a copy of a rather jumbled and as yet unproven partial genealogy that talks about Avery and Edwards families and Eli Closson from Saratoga County going to Kansas in 1874. In fact, it appears that Rueben and Jane Electa ROGERS Edwards were a part of the group that went and returned. Maria STEVENS Avery is supposed to have died there in 1874 and some of the group returned to Saratoga County after having been there for only six months. I have not tried to find the part of Kansas as yet other than on the Kansas Genweb. Jan Thompson [email protected] [email protected] wrote: > > ...(snip) > > If anyone finds any mention of Saratoga families moving to an area, > please let me know. There are some historical or genealogical societies > in other states that have quite a bit of information about Saratoga > people > who were their pioneers and I have not been able to find them. There > are a couple in Wisconsin but the information I had was not correct. > We need those connections. > > God Bless > Ruth Ann > [email protected] > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

HI Just a note I live in MI Grand Rapids and have relatives who came from Saratoga Co. and yes I did find them in the Saratoga History book. STEWART, names that tagged along DEAN,PELPS,ODELL, VAN VRANKEN. [email protected] wrote: > I have found that when I cannot find anything on people in Saratoga > or any place in the Northeast, I automatically start giving thought to > looking somewhere West. Many of the people who left here and > went to Michigan, for instance, seem to have started with one or > a couple of families (brothers, brothers-in-law, cousins, neighbors) > and went first. After getting a house up, land cleared, settled and > knowing what was what, encouraged the others back East to come > out too. The mass of families who dwindled here and end up there > were basically between 1827 to 1842. When one of the older > generation who remained here died, you will often find the remaining > person went to live with one of their families out west and when > they died, they were buried out there. This was true of the single > ladies, disabled and those listed in census as idots, etc. These > may be the other unknown adults in the household in the census > of 1840 and earlier. They did not have nursing homes as we do now. > > By the way, if you have early Michigan people, there is a wonderful > set of books on the Michigan Pioneers. I cannot find the exact > title but there is a set at the Onondaga County Library in Syracuse, NY > and a set at the Burton Collection at the Detroit Public Library. I have > the email address and website for a gal in Detroit area who will > look things up for a fee. I have email for people in Syracuse area > who do research also. These Pioneer books are just unbelieveable. > The pioneers wrote them, not a historian who came along years > later. The pioneers wanted to be sure that everyone knew their stories > and lineage. They had annual meetings until they died out and each > annual meeting had a report of who died, married and was born to > them in the past year. They each wrote their lineage, family stories, > affiliations, cousins, neighbors, and who of their family (in-laws, > cousins, etc.) were still back East, where their ancestors came from, > etc. > Love those books!! > > So when you lose track of your people, check to see the dates the states > out West started seeing pioneers and check their early histories to see > if your surnames appear there. Takes a little time but many of the books > like History of Saratoga County have an awful lot to offer. That is the > beauty of the GenWebPages and being able to check each county in > each state. Most have reference to local libraries, historical and > genealogy societies. The GenWebPages are almost all volunteer > efforts and anything you know about your ancestors should be > placed in their "surname" and "queries" so others may find you but also > your ancestors name is going to be placed where it should be and > become a part of their history. This may be the only record anyone > has there. Are your Saratoga ancestors all on the Saratoga GenWebPage? > > If anyone finds any mention of Saratoga families moving to an area, > please let me know. There are some historical or genealogical societies > in other states that have quite a bit of information about Saratoga > people > who were their pioneers and I have not been able to find them. There > are a couple in Wisconsin but the information I had was not correct. > We need those connections. > > God Bless > Ruth Ann > [email protected] > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

Heinrich Johann Peter SCHMID (aka Peter Henry SMITH); b. 3 July 1826, OberEndingen, Bezirk Zurzach, Canton Aargau, Switzerland; d. 2 Jan 1917, Rock City Falls, Saratoga Co, NY; marr. 21 May 1850, Tegerfelden, Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland to Anna Maria HAUENSTEIN, b. 22 March 1828, UnterEndingen, Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland; d. 16 Dec 1888, Galway, Saratoga Co, NY children: i. John Albert SCHMID / SMITH, b. 6 June 1851, OberEndigen; d. 14 July 1926 (in US) ii. Gottlieb SCHMID / SMITH, b. 1 Oct 1852, OberEndigen; d. 28 Aug 1869, bur. Grooms Meth. Ch Cem, Clifton Park, Saratoga Co iii. Emanuel Edward SCHMID / SMITH, b. 13 April 1854, OberEndingen; d. 24 Aug 1929; bur. Vale Cem (where's that?); marr. Alice WAGER, b. ca 1858 iv. Maria (Mary) SCHMID / SMITH, b. 10 Nov 1855, OberEndingen; d. 1935, bur. East Galway Cem; marr. Charles Monroe WELCH, 1857-1932 v. Henry SMITH, b. 11 Sept 1858, Glenville, Schenectady, NY; d. 8 Dec 1892, bur Vale Cem; marr. Henrietta McCOMBER (1856-1951) vi. Anna SMITH, b. 9 Oct 1860, Glenville, Schenectady, NY; d. 24 Nov 1917; bur. East Galway Cem; marr. _____ CLOSE vii. Charles SMITH, b. 15 Feb 1862, Glenville; d. 9 May 1949, Schenectady, Schenectady Co; bur. Vale Cem; marr. 18 March 1886, Middle Grove, Saratoga Co to Eva Theresa WENDELL (1862-1936) viii. Hattie M SMTIH, b. 18 June 1863, Clifton Park, Saratoga Co; d. Dec 1881, West Milton, Saratoga Co; marr. 27 Feb 1879 to Ozias T. BOGART (2 Sept 1843 - 26 Aug 1916); one child: Hattie May BOGART, b. 3 Dec 1881, d. 11 Jan 1973, Glens Falls, Warren Co, NY ix. Libbie Jane SMITH, b. 31 May 1866, Clifton Park, d. 20 Dec 1908 (where?) (did she ever marry?) x. Aaron William SMITH, b. 28 Feb 1871, Clifton Park; d. 10 Dec 1886, Rock City Falls, Saratoga Co xi. George B. SMITH, b. 1 Feb 1875, Galway, Saratoga Co; d. 27 Nov 1957 (where?); marr. Sadie _______ (1870-abt 1965) bur. Vale Cem. Hattie M. SMITH is my great great grand mother, her family emigrated from Switzerland, sailing from Havre, France, and arriving in NYC 23 April 1857; her grandmother, Anna HAUENSTEIN, accompanied the family in the move and was enum. with them on the 1870 census in Clifton Park. Hattie May BOGART was raised in the orphanage in the Shaker Community near Albany she marr. 1) 6 Dec 1897, West Milton; Napoleon SMITH, b. 1838 in KY (I suspect that he was a member of the Shakers) they had one child: Fidela May BROWN, b. 7 July 1898, Milton, Saratoga Co; according to our family tradition, Fidella died when her sisters were still quite young [on the 1910 census, Hattie was listed as only having 2 children], but that she did not live with her mother. But according the the L.D.S.'s Ancestral File, Fidella marr. 19 Dec 1920, in Washington D.C., to Jesse Otto OSBORNE) Hattie m. 2) James H. LINK, b. June 1866, Saratoga Co; ch: Mildred Celina LINK, b. 24 March 1902, Milton; marr. 16 Nov 1929, Manfred Mortimer ROCKEN-STYRE (25 Dec 1901, Winsted, Litchfield, CT - Jan 1970, Hudson Falls, Washington Co, NY) Hattie m. (& div.) 3) Myron BLANCHARD, ch: Rosella May BLANCHARD, b. 27 June 1904, Queensbury, Warren Co, NY; d. April 1979, Glens Falls, Warren Co, NY; marr. Frederick S. HAY (b. 29 July 1908, St. Johns, Newfoundland, Canada - d. April 1967, Glens Falls, NY) Hattie m. ca 1918 4) Marcus LAFAYETTE, b. ca 1880 NY, d. 14 April 1948, Glens Falls Hattie m. 19 Feb 1949 5) Burton MARSHALL, b. ca 1890, d. 14 Aug 1951, Glens Falls Pat (Link) Bergener

William H LINK, b. ca 1838, Saratoga Co; marr. Mary E _______, b. ca 1835, NY known children: William J LINK, b ca 1859. Saratoga Co James H LINK, b. June 1866, Saratoga Co, marr. (poss. 2nd marr) Hattie May BOGART, b. 3 Dec 1881, West Milton, Saratoga Co; d. 11 Jan 1973, Glens Falls, Warren Co, NY I found William in the 1855 census in Milton as a servant in the household of James GIFFORD in 1865 census his wife and child were in Malta Twp, he was serving in the army: p.8: (Wm H H LINK) reg't where 1st entered US service: 2nd Vet Cav; enlisted July 1863; first rank: Private; unexpired term as of June 1, 1865: 1 1/12; name of present reg't: 2nd Vet Cav; present rank: Private In the 1892 census; James & bro. William were in Milton: James LINK m, 26, US, c, laborer Margaret f, 24, US, c Minnie f, 1, US, c William LINK m, 33, US, c from this it appears that Margaret was married to James and they had a child Minnie; but in the 1900 census he was listed as single, and was a blacksmith. I don't have a marriage date for his marriage to Hattie May BOGART (dau. of Ozias T. BOGART & Hattie SMITH) they had a dau. Mildred Celina LINK, b. 24 March 1902, Milton, Saratoga Co. Hattie married again to Myron BLANCHARD and had a dau. Rosella May BLANCHARD, b. 27 June 1904, Queensbury, Warren Co, NY Seeking parents of William H LINK, surname of his wife Mary E, and what became of sons James & William. Also, what was the "2nd Vet Cav". William is not listed among the enlistees for the Civil War on the Saratoga GenWeb site. Pat (Link) Bergener

I am seeking information and willing to share data on the following Saratoga County families: Amos PECK, b. 1768 in Dutchess County NY and his wife, Mary WAGMAN, b. Dutchess Co NY, and their children: 1. Nancy b. 1 June 1795 2. Elizabeth b. 15 March 1797 3. Rachel b. 7 July 1799 4. Henry Wagman b. 28 August 1801 5. Lucinda b. 26 June 1804 6. Clarinda b. 19 Dec 1806 7. Amos Jr. b. 28 Oct 1809 8. Mary b. 29 March 1812 Amos & his family moved to the Town of Saratoga in 1806, establishing a farm near Stafford's Bridge in the town of Saratoga. Amos was the son of Oliver Peck, who moved from MA to Dutchess Co. to Norway in Herkimer Co. where he died in 1796. Nancy Peck m. Samuel BARD. Elizabeth m. Simon P. CLARK. Rachel m. Horace BUEL. Lucinda m. Nathaniel GODDARD Clarinda m. Hiram HAIGHT. They lived in Saratoga Co. and had several children including: Caroline R. b. 1831, m. Alexander McIntosh Jr. Mary b. 1833 Henry L. b. @ 1830 Nancy E. b. @ 1836 Melinda b. @ 1840 Ramanjo b. 1847, m. Phebe Ramsdale Mary was single, living in Richfield Springs. Henry WAGMAN emigrated from Switzerland to Dutchess Co NY & settled in the Town of Beekman. He had several children, all born in Dutchess Co and most if not all, eventually settled in Saratoga County. They include: Sarah b. 1762 in Nine Partners, Dutchess Co m. Amos STAFFORD b. 1756 in RI -d. 1813 Mary b. 1769 in Dutchess Co m. Amos PECK (see above) Margaret b. 1780 m. John DENNIS of Dutchess Co. Henry b. 1782 John b. 1783 Nicholas b. 1783 Elizabeth b. 1786 m. Lewis SUTHERLAND John b. 1788 Chrischany b. 1790 m. William LOSSING Eve b. 1793 m. John McBRIDE Purlina b. 1796 m. Bacchus BARRETT Amos STAFFORD b. 1756 in RI and his wife, Sarah Wagman, moved to the town of Saratoga along Fish Creek, Saratoga County, shortly after the close of the Revolutionary War. Their children included: Mary m. first _____ Green, second JOhn HICKS Henry m. Sally _____ Samuel m. Nancy FERGUSON Amos m. Elizabeth Ann PECK Rensselaer m. Loretto OSTRANDER Rachel m. Anthony MAXWELL Phebe M. Gerritt I LANSING Other Saratoga County names I am researching include: Shepherd, Wright, Macomber, Donnelly, Haas, Nichols, Normile, Losee, Bennett, Raynor, Dodd, Holmes, Nelson, Dillingham, Mosher, Smith Would love to hear from everyone working on any of these lines! Pat Peck Saratoga Springs NY 12866 [email protected]

I've been extracting the early NJ marriage bonds and posting them to the NJ GenWeb Archives. When I saw your note about an Arie BANTA that came from New Jersey, I ran a search for the BANTA surname in the records that I've already completed. Here is what I found thru Vol. G. - and there is an Arie BANTA in the bunch. They all seem to be from Bergen County, NJ. Pat B > Dottie said that the your Arie Banta b 1797 is the brother of her Peter > that I sent in an earlier message. She said the earlier Arie came from > NJ and I told her about all of the NJ records that we have at NYS Library > and she is going to try and get down there so I can help her locate them. from microfilm copies of original marriage bonds in possession of NJ Dept. of Education, Division of State Library Archives & History, filmed in 1966. "Marriages are from various counties, and are arranged in groups by surname, but not alphabetical within groups." (Family History Library Catalog; 0888701-0888710) I have capitalized all surnames for ease in identification. When there was a discrepancy with a name in the body of the bond and the signature, the difference of the signature is in parentheses. NOTE: these are only "alphabetized" by the first letter of the GROOM's surname, you have to go thru all of them when searching for info on women, which is why I started this in the first place. FHLC 0888701; Vol. A (1736-1792) # 9; Gozen ADRIANS of Staten Island and William THOMSON of Perth Amboy... [bound to]... Lewis MORRIS Esq'r Governor... 500 pounds... 11 June 1743 ... Gozen ADRIANS...license of marriage for himself and Cornelia BANTA of Hackinsack, widow... [witness:] Tho's BARTOW Sr # 38; David AKERMAN (ACKERMAN) and Sobe BANTER (BANTA) of Bergen County... [bound to]... Jonathan BELCHER, Governor... 500 pounds... 31 March 1749 ... David AKERMAN... obtained license of marriage for himself and Margret BANTER of Bergen County, spinster... [witness:] Uzal OGDEN #168; John ALDINGTON and Garret LYDDECKER (Gerrit LYDEKKER) both of Hackensack in the County of Bergen... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... 13 Dec 1770 ... Garret LYDDECKER obtained license of marriage for John ALDINGTON... and Hannah BANTA of the same place, spinster... [w] John ZABR --- (abbreviated) and Fran's BARBER FHLC 0888701; Vol. B (1711 - 1797) [total of 873 bonds] #185; Jacob BANTO and John BANTO of the County of Bergain*... [bound to]... Jonathan BELCHER, Governor... 500 pounds... 26 Sept 1754 ... Jacob BANTO... obtained license of marriage for himself and for Claushey VnWINCLE of the county af'sd, spinster... [w] Gabriel OGDEN #206; Samuel P DUMAREST of the County of Bergen obtained license for Rolef BOGARD (Roclef BOGART)... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Governor... New Jersey... 500 pounds... nijntint Day of Agust One Thousand Seven Hundred and Siksty Siks (umlaut over y) 19 Aug 1766 Samuel DUMAREST obtained license of marriage for Rolef BONGARD and for Jannitje BANTA, spinster... [w] Annatie ZABRISKI and Jane ZABRISKI signature of Richard HEATON is beneath that of Samuel DUMAREST [this one was really filmed out of sequence!] #350; Cornelius BANTA (Cornelus T BANTA) and Cornelius VAN AARLAND (Cornilus VAN ARLAND), both of Hachensack in the County of Bergen... [bound to]... W'm FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... 26 Nov 1763 ... Cornelius VAN AARLAND obtained license of marriage for Cornelius BANTA... and for Henkje OUTWATER of the same place, spinster... [w] Jno ZABRISKI Jr and Jacob ROOME #352; Siebe BANTA and Jacob BANTA, both of Hackensack in the County of Bergen... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... 15 Dec 1763 ... Jacob BANTA obtained license of marriage for Siebe BANTA... and for Rachel LOOTS of the County of Bergen af'sd... [w] Jno ZABRISKI Jr and Annatie ZABRISKI #412; Tomas BANTA "en" Henderik BANTA "boot" of the County of Bergen in the "Provinc of est nujersy"... [bound to]... "Wiljam" FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... "fift day of Siptembr One thousand seven hundred and sixty siks" 5 Sept 1766. ... Henderick BANTA obtained license of marriage for Tomas BANTA... and for Geteruy TERHUNE, spinster... (umlaut over y) [w] Abr'm BRINCKERHOFF and Stephanus VOORHEES #479; "Y Elyas DEY hes optent Lysins of merits for John hen BANTA Boot of Couynty of Bergen in the prysink of Hakensak*"... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... "twilth Aprill" One thousand seven hundred sixty "niyen" (12 April 1769). ... Elyas DEY... obtained license of marriage for John Henderikse BANTA... and for Cornelya HELM, "wido"... [w] John ZABRISKY and Annatie ZABRISKI NOTE: all y's in this record have umlauts EXCEPT for the y in sixty. #485; Hendrick BANTA and Cadarus HOOGLAND, both of Hackensack in the County of Bergen... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... 2 Aug 1769. ... Cadarus HOOGLAND obtained license of marriage for Hendrik BANTA... and for Elizabeth LAKE of Long Island in the Province of New York... [w] Jno ZABRISKI Jr #554; Jacob BANTA and Derrik (Derrick) BANTA, both of Bergen County... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... 3 Jan 1773. ... Jacob BANTA... obtained license of marriage for himself and for Aaltjs DIDERICKS of the county afores'd... [w] Jno ZABRISKI Jr #568; Arie (Aury) BANTA and Andrew VAN BUSKIRK, both of Bergen County... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN, Governor... 500 pounds... 17 July 1773. ... Arie BANTA... obtained license of marriage for himself and for Altje VAN BUSKIRK of the same place, spinster... [w] Jno: ZABRISKI Jr #735; John BANTA and Abraham WESTERVELT, both of Franklin Township in the County of Bergen, yeomen... [bound to]... William FRANKLIN... Governor... 500 pounds... 26 March 1781. ... Certificate of Marriage between John BANTA and Rachel VAN HORN... [w] William JENKINS and Henry ACKERMAN #771; Abraham BANTA and Albert WESTERVELT, both of Paramus in the County of Bergen, yeomen... [bound to]... William LIVINGSTON... Governor... 500 pounds... 26 Dec 1782. ... Certificate of Marriage between Abraham BANTA... and Geertye RYERSON... [w] Andrew COLE and Abr WESTERVELT #812; Hendrick BANTA and Michael VREELAND, both of the Precinct of Hackinsack* in the County of Bergen... [bound to]... William LIVINGSTON... Governor... 500 pounds... 1 July 1784. ... Certificate of Marriage between Hendrick BANTA... and Margeret DEDERIKS... [w] Anne WESTERVELT and Abr WESTERVELT #838; Abraham BANTA and Abraham WESTERVELT, both of Bergen County... [bound to]... William LIVINGSTON... Governor... 500 pounds... 8 Sept 1786. ... Certificate of Marriage between Abraham BANTA... and Hilletye VAN SISE... [w] Edmond STEFREE (his mark) and [Catherine] MILLER (her mark) (I can't quite make out the given name of the second witness in this entry but Catherine is a witness in others and always by "her mark") #845; John BERTHOLF (BARTHOLF) and Jacob BANTA of Bergen County... [bound to]... William LIVINGSTON... Governor... 500 pounds... 8 Sept 1787. ... Certificate of Marriage between John BERTHOLF... and Lydia LEYDECKER... [w] [Catherine] MILLER (her mark) and Abr WESTERVELT #849; Jacob BANTA and John BOGERT (BOGART) of Bergen County... [bound to]... William LIVINGSTON... Governor... 500 pounds... 22 Jan 1788. ... Certificate of Marriage between Jacob BANTA... and Catherine LAMBERT... [w] Caterine MILLER (her mark) and Abr: WESTERVELT

Ruth Ann: My NICHOLS ancestors moved from Saratoga Co., to Madison Co., and then to Michigan . They lived in St. Johns (Clinton Co.) and then some of them moved to Detroit (Wayne Co.) I was wondering where the people living in Saratoga Co.migrated from? My Isaac NICHOLS was born in 1762 and I have been searching for a long time to find where he came from. His wife Elizabeth BRADSHAW was born in Stillwater about 1774 . I would like to find out where her father James BRADSHAW came from Any suggestions on migration into Saratoga Co.? Thanks Barbara

I'm seeking information on Chester Jackson b. 15 Feb 1790 Resided at Milton, Saratoga, NY d. 11 Feb 1867 Peoria, Peoria, Ill. m.(1)Phebe SMITH b. 29 Sep 1795 Saratoga?,NY d. 21 Dec 1834 Saratoga, NY Their dau. Martha Jane JACKSON b. 20 May 1827 Saratoga Spring, Saratoga, NY d. 16 Aug 1908 Peoria, Peoria, Ill. married (1) John McINTOSH who may have died supervising work on the Erie Canal(unverified).I find Martha on the 1850 census living in Milton alone with her two girls, Phebe and Mary. She then married John's brother James McINTOSH and by 1860 they have moved to Peoria, Peoria, Ill. I find Chester Jackson's son Hiram JACKSON (b. 1824)on the 1850 census living in Peoria, Ill. but Chester JACKSON (60 yr.)wife(2) Jerusha 53 yr, Speir 8 yr, are still living in Milton, Saratoga NY in 1860. but Chester d. 1867 Peoria, Ill and wife Jerusha d. 1862 buried Peoria, Peoria, Ill. Any information on these families would be greatly appreciated. Dorothy

I have found that when I cannot find anything on people in Saratoga or any place in the Northeast, I automatically start giving thought to looking somewhere West. Many of the people who left here and went to Michigan, for instance, seem to have started with one or a couple of families (brothers, brothers-in-law, cousins, neighbors) and went first. After getting a house up, land cleared, settled and knowing what was what, encouraged the others back East to come out too. The mass of families who dwindled here and end up there were basically between 1827 to 1842. When one of the older generation who remained here died, you will often find the remaining person went to live with one of their families out west and when they died, they were buried out there. This was true of the single ladies, disabled and those listed in census as idots, etc. These may be the other unknown adults in the household in the census of 1840 and earlier. They did not have nursing homes as we do now. By the way, if you have early Michigan people, there is a wonderful set of books on the Michigan Pioneers. I cannot find the exact title but there is a set at the Onondaga County Library in Syracuse, NY and a set at the Burton Collection at the Detroit Public Library. I have the email address and website for a gal in Detroit area who will look things up for a fee. I have email for people in Syracuse area who do research also. These Pioneer books are just unbelieveable. The pioneers wrote them, not a historian who came along years later. The pioneers wanted to be sure that everyone knew their stories and lineage. They had annual meetings until they died out and each annual meeting had a report of who died, married and was born to them in the past year. They each wrote their lineage, family stories, affiliations, cousins, neighbors, and who of their family (in-laws, cousins, etc.) were still back East, where their ancestors came from, etc. Love those books!! So when you lose track of your people, check to see the dates the states out West started seeing pioneers and check their early histories to see if your surnames appear there. Takes a little time but many of the books like History of Saratoga County have an awful lot to offer. That is the beauty of the GenWebPages and being able to check each county in each state. Most have reference to local libraries, historical and genealogy societies. The GenWebPages are almost all volunteer efforts and anything you know about your ancestors should be placed in their "surname" and "queries" so others may find you but also your ancestors name is going to be placed where it should be and become a part of their history. This may be the only record anyone has there. Are your Saratoga ancestors all on the Saratoga GenWebPage? If anyone finds any mention of Saratoga families moving to an area, please let me know. There are some historical or genealogical societies in other states that have quite a bit of information about Saratoga people who were their pioneers and I have not been able to find them. There are a couple in Wisconsin but the information I had was not correct. We need those connections. God Bless Ruth Ann [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.