Ok, Having examined some of the available (to me in the Midwest) records and exploring others' family trees (an entertaining endeavor at least). I'm still left with a bit of a puzzle. Salomon (also called Samuel) Yeomans came settled in Rockland by 1733, he had three or more* children baptized in the Tappan Church. This much is indisputable. A second Samuel and his brother Jeremias were in Rockland in 1734 at least when they were baptized into Tappan church as adults. Salomon was married to Geertje Springstead (or Springsteen or Sprintsteel - not sure which is most correct). A second Samuel (Jeremias' brother) to Eva Casper. I've note done enough research yet to draw conclusions. >From Samuel, Jonathon Youmans is reported as born circa 1739. This didn't happen in the Tappan Church. So this connection cannot be established, yet. However it is this Jonathon that is shown having children in the Tappan church including a son Jonathon born 28 Aug 1764, and baptized in September. There is a third(?) Samuel in 1788 with a wife Rachel DeVries with a son, I can only assume is William ("Billie"). According to Joan Brooks, John J is the son of Samuel (from Albany). Not sure what her proof is, nor what proof Grant Youmans has for his listing Jonathon as John Js father. They can't both be right. I don't have access to DRC records from Albany to check if that is her source. There's some DAR records out there and I have a request in to them for copies of the proof for them. So anyone know how to contact Joan Brooks? [Please don't post her email to the list, no reason to make it easy for the robots] I'm determined to map out all the Youmans and connect the right people to the right families, together with references to the proof, and stick it out there somewhere publicly. Some of those Internet trees are spouting ridiculous things. Thanks, Brian