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    1. Re: [NYROCKLA] NYROCKLA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 65
    2. Ruben S. Brown
    3. The simplest way for the less adventuresome to see Bannerman's Castle to take the East Shore rail lines (Amtrak from NYC, Yonkers, Croton from the South) or Metro North from any number of Stations. Many trains per day passby going north or south. The site is about 3-4 miles below the I-84 bridge over the Hudson at Newburgh. A more interesting way according to a friend who did it is to canoe from near the I-84 bridge, but you should time your trip with the tides if you can. Ruben -- Ruben Brown 201 West 70th St. Apt. 41E New York, NY 10023 Home 212.724.1528 Of 212.987.1095 C 917.974.3146 Efax 212.937.3960 [email protected] [email protected] On 5/30/07 3:01 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fwd: Bannerman Castle talk (Janice Hesselink) > 2. Re: Fwd: Bannerman Castle talk (Barbara de Mare) > 3. Re: O'DELL Haverstraw, NY ([email protected]) > 4. Sarah Ann Rose O'DELL Haverstraw, NY (1880) > ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:40:58 -0400 > From: Janice Hesselink <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Fwd: Bannerman Castle talk > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Barbara. I'm glad it was a good presentation. I drive to NJ often, but > mostly at day time. In fact, I go to visit my son and daughter in-law > who live in Hackensack! Before coming to Athens, I lived in Bogota where > my husband was the minister of the Bogart Reformed Church. At that time > I was teaching music in Jersey City and sad to say that I didn't have > much time to look at records at the court house. However, I did visit > the "History Room" at the Johnson Library in Hackensack. > Ohoooo the "B&W" bakery! One of my other favorite hang outs! > Janice > > Barbara de Mare wrote: >> Thank you Janice. I had never heard of it either, but someone got them to >> speak. A very good presentation. We have a lot of excellent programs coming >> up in the next, many of which should appeal to all old Hudson Valley >> residents. Athens isn't really that far. I live in New Jersey, but somehow >> got involved in Rockland County. Nowq that I drive it all the time it >> doesn't seem far at all. >> >> The book theft is really astounding. Doesn't say much for our society. >> >> Barbara >> >> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> 155 Polifly Road >> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> (201) 567-9440 office >> [email protected] (home) >> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Janice Hesselink <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:55:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Fwd: Bannerman Castle talk >> >> Hi Barbara. That topic about the Bannerman Castle really sounded >> interesting! I was unaware that it even existed! Wish I could have >> attended the program, but it is a bit of a trip for me---especially at >> night. Oh welllllllll. >> >> This morning on my way to church, I heard that a rare book, stolen from >> the RCHS was located in PA! Hats off to the book dealer who reported it! >> Worth $65,000? Wow! And to think it had been an employee who tried to >> sell it. A big sigh of relief for all of you, I am sure. >> >> Janice Conklin Hesselink >> Athens, NY >> >> Barbara de Mare wrote: >> >>> REMINDER >>> >>> >>> >>> Program for Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 7PM at New City Library >>> Genealogical Society of Rockland County >>> Topic: Bannerman Castle >>> Speaker: Barbara Gottlock co-author of Bannerman Castle. >>> >>> On maps it is Pollopel Island: 6 3/4 acres of mostly rock; 1,000 feet from >>> the eastern shore of the Hudson just north of Cold Spring; 50 miles north of >>> New York City. During the Revolutionary War, patriots unsuccessfully tried >>> to stop the British from advancing north of the island by sinking 106 >>> upright logs tipped in iron points in the Hudson. Later, General George >>> Washington approved plans to use the island as a military prison. >>> The castle's builder, Frank Bannerman VI, was a Scottish patriot, very >>> proud of his descent from one of the few MacDonald's to survive the massacre >>> at Glencoe in 1692. Acting on behalf of the Crown, a rival clan, the >>> Campbells, slaughtered all MacDonald males ages 12-70. One escaped to the >>> hills with the clan banner -- and from that day on, his family name was >>> Bannerman. >>> The Bannerman family immigrated to the United States in 1854, when Frank >>> was three, and settled in Brooklyn. At the close of the Civil War, the U.S. >>> government auctioned off military goods by the ton, mostly to be scrapped >>> for their metal. Young Frank was one of the first to realize that much of >>> what was being sold had a market value higher than scrap. Under his >>> guidance, Bannerman's became the world's largest buyer of surplus military >>> equipment. When they outgrew their store at 501 Broadway in NYC, they looked >>> around for a larger and safer location in which to store their ammunition. >>> Pollopel Island was selected. >>> Frank Bannerman personally designed the island's buildings, docks, >>> turrets, garden walls and moat in the style of old Scottish castles. Almost >>> all of it was done without professional help from architects, engineers and >>> contractors. And all of it was elaborately decorated, from biblical >>> quotations cast into all fireplace mantles, to a shield between the towers >>> with a coat of arms, and a wreath of thistle leaves and flowers. The castle >>> was constructed between 1901 and 1918. It was primarily an ammunitions >>> storage site but the Bannermans summered there too. >>> Attend this interesting talk about a little known architectural wonder and >>> learn about the struggle to maintain its existence. >>> >>> For more information, visit: >>> >>> http://www.hudsonriver.com/bannerman.htm >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> [email protected] (home) >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> [email protected] (home) >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> [email protected] (home) >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:18:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: Barbara de Mare <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Fwd: Bannerman Castle talk > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii > > Hi Janice, > > My 7 year old grandson, to whom I am teaching geography, was reading your > message over my shoulder. He wanted to know how you got from Columbia, South > America, to Athens, Greece. I was proud of his geographic knowledge, but did > realize it was very funny. > > Barbara > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Janice Hesselink <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:40:58 PM > Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Fwd: Bannerman Castle talk > > Barbara. I'm glad it was a good presentation. I drive to NJ often, but > mostly at day time. In fact, I go to visit my son and daughter in-law > who live in Hackensack! Before coming to Athens, I lived in Bogota where > my husband was the minister of the Bogart Reformed Church. At that time > I was teaching music in Jersey City and sad to say that I didn't have > much time to look at records at the court house. However, I did visit > the "History Room" at the Johnson Library in Hackensack. > Ohoooo the "B&W" bakery! One of my other favorite hang outs! > Janice > > Barbara de Mare wrote: >> Thank you Janice. I had never heard of it either, but someone got them to >> speak. A very good presentation. We have a lot of excellent programs coming >> up in the next, many of which should appeal to all old Hudson Valley >> residents. Athens isn't really that far. I live in New Jersey, but somehow >> got involved in Rockland County. Nowq that I drive it all the time it >> doesn't seem far at all. >> >> The book theft is really astounding. Doesn't say much for our society. >> >> Barbara >> >> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> 155 Polifly Road >> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> (201) 567-9440 office >> [email protected] (home) >> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Janice Hesselink <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:55:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Fwd: Bannerman Castle talk >> >> Hi Barbara. That topic about the Bannerman Castle really sounded >> interesting! I was unaware that it even existed! Wish I could have >> attended the program, but it is a bit of a trip for me---especially at >> night. Oh welllllllll. >> >> This morning on my way to church, I heard that a rare book, stolen from >> the RCHS was located in PA! Hats off to the book dealer who reported it! >> Worth $65,000? Wow! And to think it had been an employee who tried to >> sell it. A big sigh of relief for all of you, I am sure. >> >> Janice Conklin Hesselink >> Athens, NY >> >> Barbara de Mare wrote: >> >>> REMINDER >>> >>> >>> >>> Program for Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 7PM at New City Library >>> Genealogical Society of Rockland County >>> Topic: Bannerman Castle >>> Speaker: Barbara Gottlock co-author of Bannerman Castle. >>> >>> On maps it is Pollopel Island: 6 3/4 acres of mostly rock; 1,000 feet from >>> the eastern shore of the Hudson just north of Cold Spring; 50 miles north of >>> New York City. During the Revolutionary War, patriots unsuccessfully tried >>> to stop the British from advancing north of the island by sinking 106 >>> upright logs tipped in iron points in the Hudson. Later, General George >>> Washington approved plans to use the island as a military prison. >>> The castle's builder, Frank Bannerman VI, was a Scottish patriot, very >>> proud of his descent from one of the few MacDonald's to survive the massacre >>> at Glencoe in 1692. Acting on behalf of the Crown, a rival clan, the >>> Campbells, slaughtered all MacDonald males ages 12-70. One escaped to the >>> hills with the clan banner -- and from that day on, his family name was >>> Bannerman. >>> The Bannerman family immigrated to the United States in 1854, when Frank >>> was three, and settled in Brooklyn. At the close of the Civil War, the U.S. >>> government auctioned off military goods by the ton, mostly to be scrapped >>> for their metal. Young Frank was one of the first to realize that much of >>> what was being sold had a market value higher than scrap. Under his >>> guidance, Bannerman's became the world's largest buyer of surplus military >>> equipment. When they outgrew their store at 501 Broadway in NYC, they looked >>> around for a larger and safer location in which to store their ammunition. >>> Pollopel Island was selected. >>> Frank Bannerman personally designed the island's buildings, docks, >>> turrets, garden walls and moat in the style of old Scottish castles. Almost >>> all of it was done without professional help from architects, engineers and >>> contractors. And all of it was elaborately decorated, from biblical >>> quotations cast into all fireplace mantles, to a shield between the towers >>> with a coat of arms, and a wreath of thistle leaves and flowers. The castle >>> was constructed between 1901 and 1918. It was primarily an ammunitions >>> storage site but the Bannermans summered there too. >>> Attend this interesting talk about a little known architectural wonder and >>> learn about the struggle to maintain its existence. >>> >>> For more information, visit: >>> >>> http://www.hudsonriver.com/bannerman.htm >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> [email protected] (home) >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> [email protected] (home) >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> [email protected] (home) >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 00:10:14 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] O'DELL Haverstraw, NY > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: SHORTSTP > Surnames: O'dell, Brown, Hartley > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rock > land/3369.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Is Nathaniel O'dell (b. 1777 d. 1867) Haverstraw, NY the brother of Isacc > O'dell (b. 1770 d. ?), John O'dell (b. 1795 m. Debra Brown) and Peter O'dell > (b. 1815 m. Pamela Hartley)??? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 01:09:10 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYROCKLA] Sarah Ann Rose O'DELL Haverstraw, NY (1880) > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: SHORTSTP > Surnames: Odell, Rose > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rock > land/3369.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I found a death record of Sidney Odell (b. 11/25/1833 Stony Point, NY d. > 12/25/1928 St. Johns, NY) whose parents were John Odell and Sarah Ann Rose. > > According to Funeral Records his mother, Sarah Ann Odell d. November 23, 1880 > Beaver Pond, NY (age 78 years, 11 months, 21 days George M. Hold Funeral Home) > > Does anyone have more information on the family of Sarah Ann Rose and John > Odell? > > Thanks. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYROCKLA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYROCKLA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYROCKLA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 65 > ***************************************

    06/01/2007 01:20:00
    1. Re: [NYROCKLA] NYROCKLA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 65
    2. Barbara de Mare
    3. Hi Ruben, I saw it long before knew what it was by stopping at the parking place just north of Cold Springs. Cross the tracks listening very carefully for an oncoming train (they fly out of the tunnel on the south end of the lot). Go down by the water and look north. My niece took some great pictures of it there last winter--and managed not to fall in the river! The GSRC has some great programs scheduled for next year. Why don't you consider joining again? I will send you the program brochure and the New Member's Packet, both of which I did this spring. Barbara Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ruben S. Brown Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] NYROCKLA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 65 The simplest way for the less adventuresome to see Bannerman's Castle to take the East Shore rail lines (Amtrak from NYC, Yonkers, Croton from the South) or Metro North from any number of Stations. Many trains per day passby going north or south. The site is about 3-4 miles below the I-84 bridge over the Hudson at Newburgh. A more interesting way according to a friend who did it is to canoe from near the I-84 bridge, but you should time your trip with the tides if you can. Ruben -- Ruben Brown 201 West 70th St. Apt. 41E New York, NY 10023 Home 212.724.1528 Of 212.987.1095 C 917.974.3146 Efax 212.937.3960 [email protected] [email protected] >>> Program for Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 7PM at New City Library >>> Genealogical Society of Rockland County >>> Topic: Bannerman Castle >>> Speaker: Barbara Gottlock co-author of Bannerman Castle. >>> >>> On maps it is Pollopel Island: 6 3/4 acres of mostly rock; 1,000 feet from >>> the eastern shore of the Hudson just north of Cold Spring; 50 miles north of >>> New York City. During the Revolutionary War, patriots unsuccessfully tried >>> to stop the British from advancing north of the island by sinking 106 >>> upright logs tipped in iron points in the Hudson. Later, General George >>> Washington approved plans to use the island as a military prison. >>> The castle's builder, Frank Bannerman VI, was a Scottish patriot, very >>> proud of his descent from one of the few MacDonald's to survive the massacre >>> at Glencoe in 1692. Acting on behalf of the Crown, a rival clan, the >>> Campbells, slaughtered all MacDonald males ages 12-70. One escaped to the >>> hills with the clan banner -- and from that day on, his family name was >>> Bannerman. >>> The Bannerman family immigrated to the United States in 1854, when Frank >>> was three, and settled in Brooklyn. At the close of the Civil War, the U.S. >>> government auctioned off military goods by the ton, mostly to be scrapped >>> for their metal. Young Frank was one of the first to realize that much of >>> what was being sold had a market value higher than scrap. Under his >>> guidance, Bannerman's became the world's largest buyer of surplus military >>> equipment. When they outgrew their store at 501 Broadway in NYC, they looked >>> around for a larger and safer location in which to store their ammunition. >>> Pollopel Island was selected. >>> Frank Bannerman personally designed the island's buildings, docks, >>> turrets, garden walls and moat in the style of old Scottish castles. Almost >>> all of it was done without professional help from architects, engineers and >>> contractors. And all of it was elaborately decorated, from biblical >>> quotations cast into all fireplace mantles, to a shield between the towers >>> with a coat of arms, and a wreath of thistle leaves and flowers. The castle >>> was constructed between 1901 and 1918. It was primarily an ammunitions >>> storage site but the Bannermans summered there too. >>> Attend this interesting talk about a little known architectural wonder and >>> learn about the struggle to maintain its existence. >>> >>> For more information, visit: >>> >>> http://www.hudsonriver.com/bannerman.htm >>>

    06/04/2007 05:17:56