Back in November, on this topic I suggested to the list: read the three-part article "The Foshay Family of Philipse Manor" by Glenna See Hill, NY Genealogical and Biographical Record, Apr-Jul-Oct 1987, vol.118 no.2-3-4. That article doesn't go much beyond people born in the 1790s. My Forshee line looks like: Pierre FOSHAY b.1683 France m. Abigail DUPUY John FOSHAY c.25 Mar 1706 d.1782/1783 m. Catherine WALDRON John FORSHEE b.15 Jan 1733 d.21 Apr 1818 m.1759 Magdalena BANTA Abraham FORSHEE b.26 Jun 1761 d.1845 m.1790 Elizabeth DE BAUN Ellen FORSHEE b. 29 Dec 1807 d.1903 m.Abraham DOREMUS I have a privately-published book (one of Pat Wardell's delightful hand-me-downs, I think) "Genealogy of the De Baun Family" by William H. Wallace, Oceanside, NY 1974, p.42 which lists the following children for Abraham Forseur and Elizabeth DeBaun. Presumably the second "Magdalena" is my "Ellen"?. I'd be interested in any pointers to other references on this. The book is one of these incredible, vast listings of names and dates with NO references whatsoever! and so is only of suggestive value. 163 Magdalena, b. 3 Feb 1787, died young 164 Jacob b. 11 Sep 1788, bap. 28 Sep 1788 Paramus 165 Anna bap. 10 Jan 1790, died young 166 John b. 18 Sep 1792 167 Abram b. 25 Sep 1794 168 Anna b. 27 Jun 1798 169 Peter b. 25 Jan 1805 170 Magdalena b. 24 Dec 1807 --Bruce (Bruce Hamilton, Redondo Beach, CA) bhami@netcom.com http://home.earthlink.net/~bhami/