Hi Rockland Co. List! I am hopping that someone has information on my family. I am researching two sets of Mann/DeGROATs. 1st SET: Samuel Mann married Rachel DeGroat (b. abt. 1824). They had 11 children & 3 of them are known to me: Manning (b. 1854), Amsey (b. 1858) & John (b. 1855) who married Mildred Smith (b. 1861) they had 7 children: Lucinda (b. 1880), Harriet (b. 1882), Anna Mary (b. 1883), Samuel (b. 1885), Amy (abt. 1891), John Jr (b. 1896) & Spencer (b. 1878) who married Mary Mann (b. 1886 same surname) 2nd SET: Mary Mann's parents are, Father: Silas Mann & Mother: Effie DeGroot (b. abt. 1859). Every document that I have indicates place of birth in NY (I wish I knew where). Depending who took the census this family's race was Black, Mulatto & White. I have located my family from 1880 thru 1920 (Hillsdale, NJ Berg. Co.) federal census and no luck with 1870 in NJ. Rachel Mann was listed as a Wid. in the 1880 census and Effie Mann was listed as a Wid. in the 1910 census. Some suggest that I could be part of the ramapo mountain clan but I cannot put a connection as of yet. I feel like I hit rock bottom for about a year and half now with these surnames. Does anyone have any information or suggestions? I appreciate your thoughts, Chris