This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KTruempy9530 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/920.1310.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: All this info is awesome!! I don't know if spelling is a factor or not, but I do have listed a Hannah Elizabeth Carneelson as Clara's mother. The mention of the Salisbury Manor is exciting, because I was told my my late grandmother that the Betchley clan had lived at a castle in Nyack, and were buried there. The only addresses I have for my great grandfather John Henry Betchley is 35 Gedney St and 106 Piermont, both in South Nyack, and right down the road from each other. I contacted the Nyack Library years ago, but they were only able to find the two addresses I just mentioned. The Native American info is also interesting, I've always wondered if I was related to any tribes, I've always been interested in their lifestyle and how they do things. As for Ancestry.com, I signed up years ago, and still have the "free trial", but I can't view a lot of info on it. Once in a while I pay for the service, and get what I can from it. I'll probably do that again soon, I need to organi! ze my info so I can figure out what I need to look for! I'll probably email you off list too with more info. It's great to hear from you, and I agree, it is getting better!!!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: basicwoman59 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3569.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: my name is martha collishaw banks, iam your cousin my father is theodore and my mothers name was blanche. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Janetkucera1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/920.1310.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Clara Williams was my grandfather's (John Henry)sister. As previously mentioned, they had other siblings, Eva, Grace, Albert, etc. From what you said, your grandfather, John Henry Betchley was her second husband. Then she had other children, including George Betchley, my mom's cousin. I remember the name Jennie, from family conversations and I did meet Harriet. Yes, George Betchley married Anna (I never knew her maiden name, but she was Italian) and they lived in Yonkers. They had a son and daughter (Clara). I found your message from ncanfield57 most interesting. There was always talk in the family that we were related to the Cornelisons who owned Salisbury Manor in South Nyack. The Manor was demolished when the TZ bridge was built. It had been built in the 1600s by a British officer, Captain Sylvester Salisbury. I never knew the connection but afte reading about a marriage between DDr. Abraham Cornelison and Sarah Williams (2nd wife), I now see the possible relat! ionship. I had researched the Westervelt, Salisbury, Cornelison web-site and came up with Abraham and Eliza (1st wife) and Sarah and then Anna a 3rd wife. They really went through their women in those days, didn't they. Anyway, George D. Williams (born July 1845), your great great grandfather, is listed in the 1900 census and even in the Morman church registry. In various census his occupations are listed as stationary engineer and boatman. A census lists the the family address at 185 Main Street, Nyack. There was also a family story that one of the Williams ancestors sailed to the US, jumped ship and changed his name from Antoinette to Williams. I don't know if this was George but I can find nothing about his parents, except they were born in New York. So, we may belong to a non-legal immigrant family!!!! There's also a Williams family story that we have some Native American blood in our line. Aunt Grace, Clara's and John Henry's sister sure did look like she had! some Indian blood running through her veins. Checking out NYS tribes , we think they may have been Blackfoot. Oh well, I find this to be fascinating. I haven't signed up with Ancestors.com. If you want to contact me directly, I'm Janetkucera@aol.com. This is getting better and better. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3612.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to any member of this family. 1930 is the last available census at this time. 1940 census has been released but it will take several months before the transcription is completed. MICHIGAN facts - 1837 Michigan was admitted to the Union. Michigan did not require "by law" birth, marriage & death registrations until 1867. Birth records are not public records unless the birth is over 100 years old. NOTE = = Facts you should know about the early census records - All census records [1790 - 1840] prior to the 1850 census ONLY listed the head of household; whether male or female. NO specific age was stated for any family member NO place of birth was stated - city, state, or country NO city, town, or village is stated - only the county; however some census takers listed the township NO street address was stated NO marital status was stated - single, married, widowed, or divorced NO family relationship was stated - brother, sister, cousin, son, daughter, wife, inlaw, etc. NO occupation was stated NO parental birthplaces are stated NO race was stated [but assume "white"] 1850, 1860 & 1870 census records do not show family relationships, marital status or parental birthplaces. Step children are not enumerated as "step" children Adopted children are not enumerated as "adopted" Grand children are not enumerated as "grand children" Orphaned children were not enumerated as "orphan" 1850 is the 1st census that shows all family members 1880 is the 1st census that shows parental birthplaces 1850 - Name: Peter Ackerman Age: 53 Birth Year: abt 1797 Birthplace: New York Home in 1850: Ramapo, Rockland, New York Gender: Male Peter Ackerman 53, NY - watchmaker Aletta Ackerman 49, NY [1801] John Ackerman 29, NY - works in quarry Catharine Ackerman 20, NY [1830] Abraham Ackerman 18, NY Eliza Ackerman 16, NY William Ackerman 13, NY Peter Ackerman 10, NY If Aletta Ackerman came to MICH. and died in 1852, who was she living with or visiting at that time??? NY Vital Records - The New York State Department of Health files vital records for events occurring in New York State outside New York City. Registration started in 1881. Information about genealogy services available from the New York State Department of Health may be found at http://www.nyhealth.gov/vital_records/genealogy.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chascornell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3612.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you haven't tried David Ackerman Descendants, google Ackerman - 1662. They'll help you, but you may have to join. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KTruempy9530 Surnames: Betchley, Williams Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/920.1310.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! I'm excited to hear from you! Clara Williams was my Great Grandmother. I don't really know anything about her or her family, other than she married my Grandfather John Henry Betchley July 10, 1899. Clara already had a daughter named May, and had John, William, Annetta, Jennie, George,Raymond, Charles (my grandfather), Harriet, and Janet. I have George married to Anna Rossi, married in Yonkers NY. I've had a hard time finding info on my family, so I'm always glad to find any tidbit I can! I look forward to sharing more info with you! Thanks!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChristieDouglassHodson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/304.753/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gilbert is my 4th Great Grandfather 3rd -Peter Johnson 2nd- Sarah Johnson Great Grandfather -Elias Benton Brock Christopher I Brock Charlotte Ann (Brock) Me. christie_hodson@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rubysho Surnames: Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3615/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for assistance in finding obituary from 1987 Journal News. I do not live in NY anymore so do not have access to local library there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lhiattpt Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/408.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Forgot to mention the files also indicate that George's father was Abraham and that Catharine's maiden name was Maybee or Mabie. If anyone can fill in the gaps please help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lhiattpt Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/408.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know this post is old but I will give you shout. I was going thru George Conklin's National Archives records and a Sarah Ebersole wrote an affidavit to confirm that Catharine was the only wife of George Conklin for the purposes of pension from being a soldier in the war of 1812. The dates are correct as the affidavit was in the 1850's and was from Rockland county NY. It could be that George and Catharine were Sarah's parents. I am looking to connect a Caleb Conklin to this family but so far have not found the link. Thanks for any information you may have. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MNugent29 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/1745.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Great Grandfather was Samuel Braen who owned the Quarry. The name Braen has been misunderstood/mispelled so often that it has been difficult to find correct people. I appreciate your note since my brother owns racehorses and now we know that it is in the roots of our Great Grandfather! Thank you! M. Nugent, daughter of Elizabeth (Helen) Braen, daughter of Abram Braen, son of Samuel. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MNugent29 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3614/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Mother was Elizabeth Helen Braen, daUghter of Abram, granddaughter of Samuel. I love the mention of horse racing since my brother owns horses here in California and has had 9 wins. Now we know, it is in the blood! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Janetkucera1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/920.1310/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My grandfather, John Henry Williams, born 1878 Nyack, NY to George D. Williams and Elizabeth Williams, had sisters, Georgia, Eva, Clara, Grace and LuLu. He had one brother, Albert. Was Clara Williams your grandmother? My mom had a cousin, George Betchley who lived in Westchester County (I'm not sure, but it may have been in Yonkers). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dapip80906 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/512.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Are you a relative of Thomas F. Ryan ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: puggielove Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3613/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information about my great great grandmother. She was Florence (Burke) Williams, married to John Williams. In 1913, they gave birth to a daughter, who then married Conrad Woehrman. My mother and uncle are the children of that marriage (John/Jack and Barbara Woehrman). As far as I know, my grandfather worked on the railroad that used to go through town. Im sorry if Ive written this wrong or its confusing. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

GSRC Presentation by Tom Riley SUBJECT - Happy Valley DATE: March 17M 2012 TIME: 1:30 pm PLACE: New City Library Auditorium ==========================================================TThe alumni of Happy Valley School in Pomona, NY celebrated its 100th Anniversary during a Centennial Reunion on February 18th, 2011. Happy Valley School was in existence from 1911 to 1974 but in the hearts of those who spent a portion of their childhood years there it lives on forever. Happy Valley School was an outgrowth of The Five Points of Industry which was established in the worst ghetto of New York City in 1854. How life was like there in the 19th Century can be seen in the motion picture, The Gangs of New York. During the 1911 Diphtheria Epidemic the Board of Trustees of the Five Points House felt they must get the impoverished children under their care out of New York City. A Board member, William Church Osborne who owned 311 acres in Pomona, NY donated the land to establish a home for neglected and abandoned children. Claude Boorum, a former Principal in the Garrison School System and friend of William Church Osborne, NY was appointed Superintendent of Happy Valley Colony. Boorum loved farming and cared deeply about children His boundless energy guided the establishment of Happy valley Colony for 20 years. When he left in 1931 over 155 children were residents and another 280 children were in Boarding homes. From the age of 7 to 17 I grew up at HV along with my brothers and a sister. We spent the 1950's there and it had a major impact on my life and on the lives of thousands of children who at one time or another called Happy Valley School home. Many of its children served ably in the cause of freedom and became pillars of their community. Mel Hancock, a former resident of HV is making a documentary about the history of Happy Valley School. We invite all our members and those who grew up there to attend this fascinating lecture presented by The Genealogical Society of Rockland County. Genealogical Society of Rockland County Programs are FREE and OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. Bob Protzmann Membership Chairman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathyjones2009 Surnames: Ackerman, Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3612/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for one particular child of Peter D. Ackerman who was born in Ramapo in 1830. Her name was Catharin Ackerman but I have no other information such as marriage or death. She is listed on the 1850 census, but after that I can't find her. If anyone can find information about Catharin I would appreciate it-so I can finish adding her to the family tree. I am also looking for information about her mother Alletta Alberta Smith. She was born in New York around 1801 and died in Michigan around 1852. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geraldsschwartz Surnames: Schwartz, Feller Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/1938.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello: I may have some connection to the Schwartz family you mention. Jacob Schwartz and Adeline Bowman (Schwartz) had a daughter, Blanche Schwartz, who was married to Frank Rose. They lived in Orange County NY. (Jacob and my Great-Grandfather, David, were brother). I'm searching for info on John and Sophia Schwartz of that area. But recently has some contact with a GGGrandchild of Frank and Rose. Gerald Schwartz. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting ============================================================ Info about upcoming meeting is below announcements. =========================================================== ANNOUNCEMENT #1 New York Public Library and New York Genealogical and Biographical Society have reopened registration for their 1940 Census program on March 24th. The program is moved to a larger space to handle the additional demand and registration is reopened. Keynote speaker has changed: the Archivist of the U.S. will not be able to attend. Instead the Director of the Census, Robert Groves will take the keynote spotlight. For more info, visit: http://www.nypl.org/locations/tid/36/node/144872?lref=36%2Fcalendar ANNOUNCEMENT #2 Family History Day 2012 in Tarrytown, NY Ancestry.com and the New England Historic Genealogical Society are bringing New York Family History Day 2012, a day to discover and celebrate your family history. This exciting event can help you start or hone your genealogical skills with informative classes, expert consultations and more. The venue is the Westchester Marriott on Saturday, March 17, 2012 For more info, visit http://www.ancestry.com/newyorkfamilyhistoryday ANNOUNCEMENT #3 WESTCHESTER CONNECTIONS VOLUME 6 IS AVAILABLE WCGS is pleased to announce that Volume 6 of the WCGS Journal, “Westchester Connections” has been printed. It will be distributed to local WCGS members who attend meetings at no charge. Out of town members will not be charged but are asked to cover postage and handling. The general public can purchase the journal. Please email me directly for information. ============================================================ MEETING INFO: =========================================================== WHAT: Researching Irish Ancestors in New York City WHO: Joe Buggy WHEN: Saturday, March 10 @ 10 a.m. WHERE: The meeting starts at 10:00 a.m. at the Aldersgate United Methodist Church, 600 Broadway, Dobbs Ferry, NY. The Westchester County Genealogical Society welcomes Joe Buggy, a professional genealogist from county Kilkenny, Ireland who currently resides in NYC. Joe works with clients tracing their Irish ancestry, in addition to proving a range of genealogical services. He is a member of the APG. Guests are always welcome. Coffee and conversation precede the meeting at 9:30 a.m. For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/ Hope to see you on Saturday!! RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS FUTURE MEETINGS Apr 14, 2012 Genealogy Web Message Boards & Blogs - Marian Wood May 12, 2012 - One Thing Leads to Another: The Continuing Journey of Genealogical Discoveries - Maureen Wlodarczyk June 9, 2012 - Searching the 1940 U.S. Census - Dorothy Dougherty

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mespo1o2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3611/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking more information on my great grandfather emanuel DERUBBA (b. 1910-d. 1974). EMANUEL had two kids, Judith Derubba and Joseph Derubba who was born in 1932. Four of his known grandchildren are Annemarie Esposito (formally Derubba), Vincent, Stephen, and Joseph Derubba. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.