Thanks, that's the answer that I would have expected. It does answer my question, and helps guide me in thinning out people too young to be admitted. I wanted to be sure, as different religious orders do different things, and those rules have changed over time. Brian On Sun, June 10, 2012 8:01 am, Janice Hesselink wrote: > In the Reformed Church (Dutch Reformed Church), adults become members, > either the first time, or by transferring from another church. The board > of Elders alone has the authority to receive persons into the membership > of the congregation. This is by confession of faith in Christ, > re-affirmation of these promises, or by a letter of transfer from another > church. And so, yes, there is a rhyme or reason to it..Children who have > gone through the Confirmation class, come before the Elders and then > admitted to the church membership. Their parents do not have to be > members. > Hope this answers your question. > Janice

In the Reformed Church (Dutch Reformed Church), adults become members, either the first time, or by transferring from another church. The board of Elders alone has the authority to receive persons into the membership of the congregation. This is by confession of faith in Christ, re-affirmation of these promises, or by a letter of transfer from another church. And so, yes, there is a rhyme or reason to it..Children who have gone through the Confirmation class, come before the Elders and then admitted to the church membership. Their parents do not have to be members. Hope this answers your question. Janice On Jun 10, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Brian J Densmore wrote: > When look at DRC church admissions to membership, is there any rhyme or > reason to it? Could a child whose father/mother switched churches be > admitted to the church? Or would it only be adults, or those who have been > through confirmation? Could a parent have a child admitted? > > Thanks, > Brian > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYROCKLA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Janice Hesselink

When look at DRC church admissions to membership, is there any rhyme or reason to it? Could a child whose father/mother switched churches be admitted to the church? Or would it only be adults, or those who have been through confirmation? Could a parent have a child admitted? Thanks, Brian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PHogge Surnames: LANGSTRAND Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3622.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Found another GREAT ARTICLE in the New York Times newspaper, December 13, 2007, which was written by Peter Applebome. I will copy & paste this article here, for any who might be interested in the "Old Letchworth Village Cemetery" on Call Hollow Road, & the Monument that honors 910 names of Letchworth Village people, who were laid to rest between 1914 to the cemetery's closure in 1967. New York Times December 13, 2007 OUR TOWNS "Giving Names to Souls Forgotten No Longer" By PETER APPLEBOME THIELLS, N.Y. There was no reason to think that anyone would ever care to remember the 910 or so anonymous souls buried in a distant sloping glade under the T-shaped metal markers with no names, just numbers. They had, after all, been almost invisible in life. Why try to glimpse them now? But sometimes people find ways to make amends, however belated. And so here and in other relics of a long-gone world of institutionalized care for society's outcasts, there's a movement afoot to remember, to replace numbers with names, to acknowledge the worth of people who lived and died long ago in a world designed to be as distant as the stars. You won't find the old cemetery at Letchworth Village unless you look for it - down the gravel path, over the modest creek, into the woods off Call Hollow Road. From 1917 to 1967 it became the final resting place for almost 1,000 participants in a grand experiment that symbolized the aspirations and limitations of a distant era of institutionalized care. Back then it was the home for generations of people viewed generically as the "feebleminded": the mentally ill, the mentally retarded, epileptics, the homeless and others with nothing to tether them to home, family or society. Now, here and elsewhere, people are digging through records, checking death certificates, comparing numbers on graves with names in old ledgers, so these dead, too, will be remembered. "It's a way to bring dignity to these people," said Jacqueline Ferrara, the ombudsman for the regional office of the state agency that provides services to people with developmental disabilities. Letchworth Village sent the last of its residents out into group homes in 1996. "There was a time when, I hate to say it, but it was like out of sight, out of mind. This is a way to remember that these were people whose lives had worth and who deserve to be remembered." Letchworth Village was never a perfect place, of course. How could it be? Still, when it opened in Rockland County in 1911, the inspiration of William Pryor Letchworth, who had made a fortune in the harness business, the idea seemed breathtakingly noble for its time. Instead of overcrowded Dickensian refuges for society's most vulnerable, there would be a nurturing village in the woods with an acre of land for every inhabitant. Instead of Stygian high rises, there would be 130 rustic fieldstone cottages. There was a band, a Boy Scout troop and a self-sufficient community where residents farmed and raised cattle, pigs and chickens. They made toys to sell at Christmas, and when they died, unless they were taken to family burial plots, their remains went to the cemetery in the sloping two-acre grove. The dream outstripped the reality, and at its peak Letchworth Village had about twice the population originally forecast and some of its own horrors, caught up in allegations of mistreatment. And even from the start, whatever indignities that remained from life were compounded in death. Whether because the state saw no need to pay for gravestones for people whose lives were so devalued anyway or because their families did not want the shame of their afflicted son or daughter, brother or aunt advertised to all who might come to visit, they were buried anonymously. The graves were marked only by the numbered steel markers anchored to the ground by cement poured into industrial-size cans. In 1967, they began burying the dead in a second graveyard that did have headstones, but the old cemetery today has a capricious air of eerie repose, the hundreds of steel markers like odd industrial blooms augmented by occasional stray headstones paid for by family members. As it turned out, it was the modern-day counterparts of the forgotten dead who first spoke up for them. At meetings of the so-called self advocates living in group homes, the subject of the cemeteries came up. FROM that came a commitment on the part of the advocates and state agencies to bring dignity to the anonymous dead. The first place it was done was at what was once the Wassaic Developmental Center. There, a bronze marker in stone lists the names of some 625 of the dead under the heading: "In Memory of Those Who Shall Not Be Forgotten." At the old Letchworth Village cemetery, there's a new planter and wooden sign at the entrance to the graveyard. Mrs. Ferrara is going through all the records to come up with names for a plaque planned for this spring. It's a gesture perhaps about symbolism as much as reality. Few people come to visit the site, most of whose denizens were buried a half-century to almost a century ago. Vandals have knocked over some of the markers, and there's trash dumped in the woods leading up to it. Still, she walks through the cemetery, dead leaves swirling underfoot, metal markers listing this way and that, and says: "These are lives that should be recognized and celebrated and acknowledged, not as numbers, but as names. It's the right thing to do." E-mail: peappl@nytimes.com NOTE: I've also included the NYT Photo that was associated with this article. Hope you found this as interesting as I did. Most sincerely, Patricia in Bremerton, WA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PHogge Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3622.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I noticed that on the FIND-A-GRAVE Internet website, that "The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery (1914-1967)" is listed among the Cemeteries catagory. This is a GREAT write-up, about the Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument on Call Hollow Road, that lists by sequential death dates, the 910 Letchworth Village Residents that are buried there. This outstanding report was written by Khurram Saeed, for the newspaper, "THE JOURNAL NEWS", which is dated October 17, 2008. I will copy & paste the article for those who may be interested. Monument reads: THOSE WHO SHALL NOT BE FORGOTTEN Memorial honors nameless residents REPORTED BY KHURRAM SAEED THE JOURNAL NEWS, OCTOBER 17, 2008 For the hundreds of people buried at the Old Letchworth Village Cemetery, their deaths were much like their lives: anonymous, obscure and humble. Many of their graves simply have small T-shaped metal markers with numbers printed on them, a legacy of a time not so long ago when families were ashamed of relatives with developmental disabilities or when they were told to forget about them. But a memorial erected at the cemetery in August and a new state law that would allow loved ones to replace the grave markers with proper headstones are attempting to atone for the past. "Why is a person remembered as a number, and not as a person?" was a question that Jacqueline Ferrara often asked herself last year as she sought to find out the names of the 910 men, women and children buried at the cemetery, off of Call Hollow Road in Thiells. "Those Who Shall Not Be Forgotten" is written on a bronze plaque affixed to the large granite memorial. The names are listed in neat rows in the order they died. At the top of the monument are the names of six Letchworth residents buried on Cheesecote Mountain in Haverstraw from 1914 to 1917. Officials don't know exactly where the people are buried - there are no T-shaped markers to guide them - but have a general idea. The Call Hallow graveyard was first used in December 1917 until 1967, when a cemetery on Thiells-Mount Ivy Road in Pomona was opened. Ferrara, the ombudsman for the Hudson Valley Developmental Disabilities Services Office, last year spent several months cross-referencing client files and death certificates, and matching grave sites with names. She went through the records three times to make sure she had the names spelled right and dates correct. "I feel like I know all these people," Ferrara said at the cemetery recently. "I feel they're family." Silvio Cosareto was the first person to be buried at the Old Letchworth Village Cemetery, and Stephen Brooker, the last, was number 910. In between are former residents, most with full names, others with incomplete ones. There is Baby Bob Wendt, Baby Girl Doll, Father Smith and Mr. Easton. In a few cases, there are people who share names or have a number added to the end of theirs, such as Dorothy Smith No. 3 and Robert Johnson No. 4. There are even a few Letchworth employees and their children buried there. Janet and Carl DeStefano, who live in Florida, have visited the cemetery twice since late August. Carl DeStefano's younger brother, Kenneth, who died at age 7, is buried there, one of the few dozen people who has a headstone with their name written on it. The married couple last visited the cemetery in 1968, but DeStefano said he had a dream about his brother last November, wondering why his mother placed him at Letchworth when he was 5. He died two years later of pneumonia. Carl DeStefano, 66 and two years older than Kenneth, is trying to get his brother's file to understand why he was placed at Letchworth. He takes solace that his family marked Kenneth's grave with a headstone. The monument also brings some dignity to the nameless others, he said. "It seems all these years later, somebody is being interested in it, with the monument and all that," Carl DeStefano said recently. Janet DeStefano, 66, said she gets "brokenhearted" when she looks around at the numbered markers. "I just feel bad for all of those people buried there," Janet DeStefano said. "Who knows if the family even knows about them?" People with developmental disabilities and mental illness, orphans, the homeless and those deemed unmanageable were sent to Letchworth during most of the 20th century, said John Murphy, president of Camp Venture, which serves people with disabilities. "People would literally drop folks off on the ground and leave," said Murphy, a county legislator. "This was a time back in those days when these conditions were something people were afraid of and the public was frightened by." Letchworth was created in 1911 to serve as a self-sufficient community where people with special needs could eventually rejoin society through education, work and medical care. First known as "The Newest State Institution for the Feeble-Minded and Epileptic," the 2,000-acre site was selected because of its close proximity to New York City medical facilities. Jan Wheeler worked as Letchworth's associate director from 1984 to 1989 when it still had 1,500 people living there. She said societal norms were different 70 years ago. There were no special education or day programs, or group homes where parents could keep their children. In fact, it was recommended they put their child in a state institution like Letchworth. "Your alternative was to keep your child at home and do the best you could," Wheeler said recently. "A lot of families placed their folks there and forgot about them. That's what they were told to do. Go out and have other children and move on with your life." Wheeler, who lives in Tappan, said using a numbered marker at the cemetery was a common practice. At a time when parents didn't even tell their family members that they had a child with a disability, the nameless marker was a way to protect their privacy. When someone died, the family was contacted. They always had the option of burying them with a headstone. "At one time, people wanted to hide people away," she said. "This was just part of that hiding process." What no one really anticipated was the overcrowding, she said. Designed to house up to 2,500 people, Letchworth had more than 4,000 by World War II. The reforms began in earnest in the 1960s and the state facilities were deinstitutionalized over the following three decades. The last people were moved out of Letchworth into group homes in 1996. Since that time, former residents of the institutions have lobbied to draw attention to those who preceded them. For example, three self-advocacy associations helped pay for the monument at the old Letchworth cemetery, along with the state Office of Mental Retardation and Developmental Disabilities (OMRDD). There are about 7,100 of these nameless graves around the state, state Sen. Thomas Morahan said. Morahan, R-New City, introduced the legislation that allows OMRDD to release the names and dates of birth and death of any patients who lived at one of its facilities for the purpose of inscribing a headstone. The family is responsible for paying for the headstone. "I just think we as a state have some responsibility because these people were in our care, many for their lifetimes," Morahan said. The information can be released to cemetery associations and funeral homes, who are working with family members. "The only catch would be if the person or the person's guardian has provided written instructions not to release their name," OMRDD spokeswoman Nicole Weinstein said. The law is not perfect. Those who suspect loved ones may be buried in one of the graves may face several challenges and legal costs to get detailed information. Morahan, who heads the state Senate Committee on Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities, said it was up to OMRDD to set up the process to make the information available to family members. He said the law may need to be tweaked if it prevents some people from getting the information because of privacy regulations. Ferrara, the ombudsman with OMRDD's regional office, said the state plans to hold a memorial dedication ceremony sometime next spring. It won't make up for the past, she said, but it's a start. "This is one of the most peaceful places," Ferrara said. "If there's one thing we did right, the site that was selected as their final resting place is really beautiful." Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ourpops2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3549.1.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Patricia, I was sent a copy of the case write-up from a grand-daughter of my grandmother from her second marriage. I have never met her, but came upon her in my research to find my father's biological parents. In the write-up, it mentions the 2 case # of my 2 uncles from her first marriage that also were residing at Letchworth Village. From everything that I have read or found out, a lot of the records are gone and with out proper documentation as to relationship, impossible to get your hands on. Such a sad state of affairs. I am going to try and make a trip up that way and view for myself and do some inquiries, won't be until sometime in the fall, but I've waited this long, a few more months will not hurt. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PHogge Surnames: LANGSTRAND Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3549.1.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "Hi" Jim, I wonder how you were able to obtain the Case numbers of your Family Members who were residents at "Letchworth Village". I would love to find more information about my Uncle Larry & the time he spent there at "Letchworth Village". I also posted another Thread on this Rockland County Forum site, with the hope that we can find out more about those folks that are buried in "The Old Letchworth Village" Cemetery. Warm regards & Good Luck in your search for your Family Members. Patricia in Bremerton, WA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PHogge Surnames: LANGSTRAND Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3622/mb.ashx Message Board Post: For too many years, the only thing I knew about my Uncle Lawrence "Larry" Langstrand, was that he had been institutionalized at a very young age, somewhere in New York. In reviewing the latest US 1940 New York Census, I discovered the first official document that listed my Uncle's name. I learned that Uncle Larry was listed as a Resident/Inmate/Patient at "Letchworth Village" Institution, which was established to care for the "feeble-minded" among others. Let me say, that I am so glad that society's view of human imperfections has changed through the years. When I discovered where my Uncle Lawrence Langstrand had been, for so many years, I posted a Ancestry.com Forum query for more information on him. I learned, from a Fellow Family Tree Researcher & Genealogist, that my Uncle Larry passed away at this same Letchworth Institution, & is buried somewhere in "The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery". After investigating this cemetery, I can only conclude that he rests among 910 oth! er souls, whose grave is represented by a T-Shaped Metal Marker, stamped with a Number for Identification. I learned that Uncle Larry's name has been etched upon the "Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument" that has been erected, to honor those souls who had only been memorialized with only a T-Shaped Marker, stamped with a number. I've looked up, on the Internet, everything that I can find about the research that has come about, by good citizens, who concluded that these forgotten folks needed to be remembered by name, for the human-beings that they were. My major problem with these long-distance Internet searches, is that I cannot see a CLOSE-UP of my Uncle Lawrence "Larry" Langstrand's name & the date of his death...&...I cannot find any official documented details of his life or death. I would also like to find out what T-Shaped Metal Marker & Number marks my Uncle Larry's grave. I also have not been able to find any documented list/trascriptions of the 910 names & de! ath dates of "The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery Monument" Residents/ Patients/Inmates, iscribed upon this monument. I live out west, so I must do my Family Research long distance, within a budget. I'm hoping that there might be a Fellow Genealogist, who resides in the local area of Rockland County, New York, who might be willing to transcribe those 910 names along with their associated death-dates...to share with those of us who continue to search for evidence of our loved ones & missing family members. Perhaps a close-up photographic series could be taken of each column/list that is etched on this Memorial, in order of their sequential death dates. This is a public monument, open & obvious for review to any & all who views it. By reading Forum comments under the topic of Letchworth Villiage, I see that I am not alone in my search for names & dates of Letchworth Residents. Please know that I am so grateful to those Family Tree Researchers & Genealogists who volunteer & dedicate themselves to answers, documents, photographs, sources, & resourc! es...to those of us who are limited by time, access, & distance...in our search for facts & family. Most sincerely, Patricia in Bremerton, WA P.S. Because I believe that "a name is just a name, until you add a face to it"; I am adding this 1944 vintage photo of my Uncle Lawrence "Larry" Langstrand. Uncle Larry was only 7 years old, when he was listed in the US 1940 New York Cenus as an Inmate/Resident/Patient at "Letchworth Village". According to a Fellow Family Tree Researcher, my Uncle Larry died on 10 March 1967, & lays at rest in "The Old Letchworth Village Cemetery" on Call Hollow Road. He probably was one of the last residents buried here, since this cemetery closed for further interments, sometime in 1967, which is the same year my Uncle died. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ourpops2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3549.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Patricia, I to have been searching for records on 3 of my relatives that were placed in Letchford Village. As a state run facillity, it is almost impossible to obtain any information or records. I was able to obtain a copy of the admittence report that was generated on one of them, but that came from a relative. One of my Uncle's is among the 900 graves. The other two were moved to other institutions in upstate NY and have since passed on. Hopefully, I will be around when the 50 year limit is up on death certificates and be able to get more information. Until then I will keep trying other ways. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PHogge Surnames: LANGSTRAND Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3549.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "Thank You" so very much, for your Ancestry.com Forum reply & also for your Email. I am so very grateful for volunteers like you, who are willing to help those of us who are researching our Family Trees, but we're limited by great distances. I am glad to hear information about my Uncle Lawrence "Larry" Langstrand, but I am truly heartbroken to learn that my Uncle entered this Letchworth Village Institution as a young child, & lived his life here, & ultimately died here to be buried among those souls who were only represented with a number. Really breaks my heart to think that families abandoned these children because they were "Feeble Minded". How very sad. May we never repeat this kind of history. I do have another question for you...&...that is...what official document did you discover that indicates that my Uncle Larry died on 10 March 1967. I have not been able to locate any official report of his death. Please do share. Thanks so much. Most sincerely, Patricia in Bremer! ton, WA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LBaisley5145 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3549.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lawrence Langstrand passed away on 10 Mar 1967 and is buried in the old Letchworth Village Cemetery on Call Hollow Road. There is a monument with 900 names of the people buried there. There is a sign on Call Hollow Rd for the Letchworth Village Cemetery If you would like a picture of the monument and the Cemetery sign email me at ftreeman@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PHogge Surnames: Langstrand Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3549.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've read your posts & replies with interest. I also had a maternal Uncle who was institutionalized in Letchworth Village. Up to this point, I only had verbal pass-down of events that happened a world away from me, at some time in history, before I was born. Today I have finally located my missing Uncle Lawrence "Larry" Langstrand, in the 1940 New York Census. He was only 7 years old, during the U.S. 1940 New York 1940 Census, & he was listed as a resident at Letchworth Village, Rockland, New York. I would love to learn more about him. I'm sure he's passed on by now, but my heart still breaks for a little 7 year old boy who was placed, at such a young age, in an institution for the feeble-minded. I would like to know where I could look, long distance, for Letchworth Village Patient Records. I'll appreciate any assistance you can give. Most sincerely, Patricia in Bremerton, WA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting WHAT: Searching the 1940 U.S WHO: Christopher Zarr WHEN: Saturday, June 9 @ 10 a.m. WHERE: The meeting starts at 10:00 a.m. at the Aldersgate United Methodist Church, 600 Broadway, Dobbs Ferry, NY. Christopher Zarr serves as the Education Specialist for the National Archives at NYC. The 1940 Census release is the most significant record to be made available to genealogists in a decade. Guests are always welcome. Coffee and conversation precede the meeting at 9:30 a.m. For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/ Hope to see you on Saturday!! RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS FUTURE MEETINGS Sept 8, 2012 - Celebration of WCGS 30th Year Oct 13, 2012 - A Found Look Back at The Old ‘Put - Joe Schiavone Nov 10, 2012 - Researching Your Jewish Roots - Roni Liebowitz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ecchavez39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.rockland/3582.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks so much for all the information. I was up in Oregon attending my granddaughter's high school graduation. I will get back in about a day or so doing research on the Kearneys. I like to find the death record for Martin's mother - This is the last address of her: New York City Directories 1897 - 1899 - Mary A. Kearney, widow of Michael Kearney lived in house Nr. 450, W. 28th Street, New York. I am tired and go relax now. I will forward any new information that I come across. Chris Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The June meeting of the Genealogical Society of Bergen County will be held on June 25, 2012 at 7PM at the Ridgewood Public Library on 125 Maple Ave. in Ridgewood, NJ. It will feature genealogist Tony Lauriano. He will discuss "Finding Your Female Ancestors" using various records. Meetings are free and open to the public. For more information, visit our website at www.njgsbc.org.

Fulton is not the town. My family is Rockland. Found births and marriage announcements and obits for my family. This site covers NYC, Rockland, Orange and North. Don't remember if it had Bergen. There is a Bergen genealogy site online that I will look for again and send to you. Found lots of Bantas there for friends and some Youmans. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Brian J Densmore" <brian@amason.net> Sender: nyrockla-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:21:24 To: <nyrockla@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: nyrockla@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] What is possible in a day's research? I've seen this site. Doubt there is much there to help me in my current task. I have some very specific information I'm seeking in Rockland, (Orange?,) and Bergen counties right now. Not really anything in Fulton. Sure there are likely extended family members there, but that's not what I'm seeking right now. Thanks for the suggestion. Brian On Thu, May 31, 2012 1:55 pm, Jan wrote: > There is also this site: > > http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYROCKLA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I haven't read all of the emails so I hope I'm not duplicating any of the responses. The Rockland County Archive is wonderful! I found microfilms with wills and so forth which has helped me greatly. There were wills originally from Orange County but as you know Rockland was formed after the Rev War. I haven't checked out the Orange Co Archives/Historical Soc yet but hope to do so in the future. The Rockland Co Genealogy Society may be of help to you http://rocklandgenealogy.org/ . They volunteer weekly or twice a week at the archives as well as meet in the New City Library. Oh there's some excellent microfilm in the New City library as well as books. http://www.newcitylibrary.org/ If I recall correctly Sally Pelligrini is the historical librarian. She is a wonderful source of information. Here's the link to check the types of books they have http://rcls.ent.sirsi.net/client/search/results/newcity/q$003dgenealogy$0026rw$003d0$0026ln$003den_US$0026ic$003dfalse$0026te$003d$0026dt$003d$0026sm$003dfalse$0026 Scanned Clarkstown info: http://www.town.clarkstown.ny.us/html/town_clerk_historical_records_1752_1789.asp Good luck! Christy -----Original Message----- From: Jan <jan@edelsontech.com> To: nyrockla <nyrockla@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, May 31, 2012 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] What is possible in a day's research? There is also this site: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html It says postcards but it's old newspapers for the area -----Original Message----- rom: nyrockla-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyrockla-bounces@rootsweb.com] n Behalf Of Brian J Densmore ent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:51 PM o: nyrockla@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [NYROCKLA] What is possible in a day's research? Thank you! New City was on my short list. In fact it was on top of my list. ot sure I could hit two locations in one day. I was in fact torn between a ergen centric approach and a Rockland centric approach. Thanks for throwing e back to square one. lol. Does New City have records covering Bergen also? These collections have ctual first and second hand records, besides compilations, right? I have well nigh exhausted my research efforts at the DutchDoorGenealogy ite and others on the Internet. Although that last one is a moving target. recently got email addresses for over 50 other researchers on one section f the family tree (thank you, Disbyt). Sadly, not one of the ones most in eed. I will probably spend years with just that one result. I'm not really sure what's out in print form to help me, but I suspect it's reater than the digital form. Thank you, rian n Thu, May 31, 2012 11:35 am, Pat & Walter Wardell wrote: Two places I'd recommend are: The Ridgewood Library, Ridgewood, Bergen Co., NJ. In addition to the Library's own collection on local history and genealogy, The Genealogical Society of Bergen Co. collection is housed here (including my own compilation on CD on "Early Bergen County Families" which spills over to include Rockland County, Passaic Co., and further field in some cases). The New City Library, New City, Rockland County, NY which has a "Rockland Room" with a great collection of material on Rockland County local history and genealogy. Both these locations have excellent librarians who will be happy to help you and can also suggest other avenues for your research. I hope you are able to get most of your questions answered. Pat On May 31, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Brian J Densmore wrote: > I'll be in NY for several days. I have a number of easy to hard tasks > on my wish list for NY. What types of realistic goals are possible in > Rockland/Bergen county in a day's worth of research? > .. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YROCKLA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYROCKLA-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I've seen this site. Doubt there is much there to help me in my current task. I have some very specific information I'm seeking in Rockland, (Orange?,) and Bergen counties right now. Not really anything in Fulton. Sure there are likely extended family members there, but that's not what I'm seeking right now. Thanks for the suggestion. Brian On Thu, May 31, 2012 1:55 pm, Jan wrote: > There is also this site: > > http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html >

There is also this site: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html It says postcards but it's old newspapers for the area -----Original Message----- From: nyrockla-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyrockla-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian J Densmore Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:51 PM To: nyrockla@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] What is possible in a day's research? Thank you! New City was on my short list. In fact it was on top of my list. Not sure I could hit two locations in one day. I was in fact torn between a Bergen centric approach and a Rockland centric approach. Thanks for throwing me back to square one. lol. Does New City have records covering Bergen also? These collections have actual first and second hand records, besides compilations, right? I have well nigh exhausted my research efforts at the DutchDoorGenealogy site and others on the Internet. Although that last one is a moving target. I recently got email addresses for over 50 other researchers on one section of the family tree (thank you, Disbyt). Sadly, not one of the ones most in need. I will probably spend years with just that one result. I'm not really sure what's out in print form to help me, but I suspect it's greater than the digital form. Thank you, Brian On Thu, May 31, 2012 11:35 am, Pat & Walter Wardell wrote: > Two places I'd recommend are: > > The Ridgewood Library, Ridgewood, Bergen Co., NJ. In addition to the > Library's own collection on local history and genealogy, The > Genealogical Society of Bergen Co. collection is housed here > (including my own compilation on CD on "Early Bergen County Families" > which spills over to include Rockland County, Passaic Co., and further afield in some cases). > > The New City Library, New City, Rockland County, NY which has a > "Rockland Room" with a great collection of material on Rockland County > local history and genealogy. > > Both these locations have excellent librarians who will be happy to > help you and can also suggest other avenues for your research. > > I hope you are able to get most of your questions answered. > > Pat > > > On May 31, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Brian J Densmore wrote: > >> I'll be in NY for several days. I have a number of easy to hard tasks >> on my wish list for NY. What types of realistic goals are possible in >> Rockland/Bergen county in a day's worth of research? >> ... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYROCKLA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I have. Some of my NY in person research will benefit from my time on that site. Thank you Jan, Brian On Thu, May 31, 2012 11:46 am, Jan wrote: > Have you gone to: > http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: nyrockla-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyrockla-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Brian J Densmore > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:48 PM > To: nyrockla@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYROCKLA] What is possible in a day's research? > > I'll be in NY for several days. I have a number of easy to hard tasks on > my > wish list for NY. What types of realistic goals are possible in > Rockland/Bergen county in a day's worth of research? ...