I'm having difficulty finding the ancestors of my great grandmother, Amanda Rose Lane, of Haverstraw. I believe she descended from one of the Jacob Roses and I believe the family was Dutch. Nancy Tweedie's research (thank you Nancy) lists the male children of James R. Rose (Jacobus Roos) and Elizabeth Cline as James (Jeams) b September 7, 1792 in Clarkstown (married Anna Terneur March 31, 1821); and Jacob b September ll, 1795 in Clarkstown (married Catherine Smith). Does anyone have information on the children of JAMES and ANNA ROSE or JACOBand CATHERINE ROSE? Based on the birth and marriage dates, it's possible that Amanda Rose was born into one of these families. I know it's a longshot, but I am getting desperate. Thanks. Ann Langdon

Hello Everyone We have added 22 new 1600's ancestors and included their children on the Ancestor Roll of Honor on America's First Families web site at; http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/ When you enter the site, scroll down to near the bottom of the page where the Ancestor Roll of Honor is located. On the same page you will also find a link to the 1600's Ancestor Data Base that contains over 14,000 names of proven ancestors from that era. Enjoy Harold Oliver Director

I am researching the following line: 1. Harme Jacobse ROOS, b. Amsterdam?, married Gessie Janse KUYPER on February 22, 1717/1718. Their children: 2. Jacob ROOS, B. Tappan, New York on March 30, 1723, married Annatje Cille Johannes ROOS, b. August 31, 1718 3. Child of Jacob ROOS: James R. ROSE (aka Jacobus ROOS) b. July 22, 1760 in Clarkstown, NY, married September 23, 1784 in New York City, Trinity Episcopal Church to Elizabeth Cline (aka Pegge CLYNE), died April 15, 1822 in Phelps, Ontario County, NY, buried at Snyder Cemetery, Valley Cottage, NY. Their children: 1. Henna (Hannah?), b. September 9, 1784 in Clarkstown, NY, married James/Joseph/Jacobus C. Smith on August 16, 1808 at Tappan Reformed Church 2. Catherine, b. June 29, 1787 in Clarkstown, married Benjamin FELTER on February 1, 1810, Tappan, DRC 3. Polly (Pegge), b. January 18, 1790 in Clarkstown, married John LOCKE 4. James (Jeams), b. September 7, 1792 in Clarkstown, married Anna TURNEUR ON mARCH 31, 1821. 5. Jacob, b. September 11, 1795 in Clarkstown, married Catherine Smith 6. Sayles, b. December 29, 1797 in Clarkstown 7. Elizabeth, b. April 10, 1799 in Clarkstown 8. Halletje Blauvet, b. May 12, 1802 in Clarkstown 9. Eve (Effa, Effe) Polhemus, b. August 23, 1804 in Clarkstown, married Philander SHIRLEY, died October 11, 1879 in Waterloo, Seneca County, NY Any information or suggestions/directions would be greatly appreciated. Nancy Tweedie in California

Pat, thank you so much for the information on Levi Bell. Although he is not a direct descendant of mine, I like to know something of the lateral ancestors. All the knowledge I have on him I put in the last note to you. Bertie Hoch

[forwarding, from a non-subscriber. --Bruce] I am looking for some statistical and historical data about people of Polish origin in Rockland County NY. How can I find out about the Polish population in the metropolitan area? Wojtek Luczak, president of Polish American Club of Rockland County

From: Stephen D Franklin <daniel@iglou.com> To: Stephen D Franklin <daniel@iglou.com> Subject: Re: American Revolutionary War Webring Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 5:55 PM Subject: American Revolutionary War Webring Do you have an ancestor that participated in the Revolutionary war, if so we would like very much for you to join the Revolutionary War Webring. This site is not just for Patriots. So you do not have to belong to the Sons of the American Revolution or the Daughters of the American Revolution. We our interested in your link to our site, hoping to have it be a great resource for all those searching their lineages on either side of the war with the colonies. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hollow/9410 Am Rev Webring site http://www.sar.org The National site for the Sons of the American Revolution http://members.tripod.com/StephenFranklin/arwindex.html Am Rev Webring Index Stephen D Franklin e

In a message dated 4/7/99 12:16:06 PM Central Daylight Time, MMPNL@aol.com writes: > > buried at Greenbush Presbyterian Church, Blauvelt, NY > Henry D.Bell b 1797 d 1870 , owner of plot > Fannie Onderdonk Bell, wife b1805, d1886 > Ann Eliza Bell Blauvelt, daughter b 1836, d1911, Jacob Blauvelt, husband > Sarah Bell Zimmerman, daughter b1839, d1926, Abram Zimmerman, b1838,d1926, > husband, my great grandparents > Charles, Everitt their infants > Mabel Monks > Mabel, I have a BELL that an ancestor married in Rockland County: Sarah Auryansen DeCLARK b. 30 Nov. 1864 in Beaver Dam, Dodge Co. WI , m. Levi BELL 30 May 1895. She d. 20 Nov. 1922 in Orangeburg, Rockland Co. NY and is buried in Rockland Cemetery. Uncle Levi was born 25 Jan. 1853. Can you fit him in your line? I believe he is buried next to Aunt Sarah. Sarah was my great grandfather's sister. Bertie Hoch

buried at Greenbush Presbyterian Church, Blauvelt, NY Henry D.Bell b 1797 d 1870 , owner of plot Fannie Onderdonk Bell, wife b1805, d1886 Ann Eliza Bell Blauvelt, daughter b 1836, d1911, Jacob Blauvelt, husband Sarah Bell Zimmerman, daughter b1839, d1926, Abram Zimmerman, b1838,d1926, husband, my great grandparents Charles, Everitt their infants Mabel Monks

Help, I have many deeds and wills from early Orange, Rockland, and Ulster counties that pertain to my ancestoral families: Carpenter, Coe, Wisner, Shaw, Thompson, Jayne, and Woohull which I would like to correlate in order to try to draw some conclusions regarding their relationships. Does anyone know of a spreadsheet that can do that? Phoebe

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hi, I know this has nothing to do with any of my list but I thought that so many people read the list that this would be a good place to get this information out to all. Lets give these families all of our support and prayers that thier loved ones will soon be home safe. This just came in and I'm forwarding in case you don't already have this: Southwestern Bell and Pacific Bell Internet services have created free e-mail addresses for families of the three American soldiers now held in Yugoslavia. Those who want to send messages of support can do so at the addresses below. SSGT Christopher Stone ssoldier@swbell.net SPC Steven M. Gonzales tsoldier@swbell.net SSGT Andrew A. Ramirez casoldier@pacbell.net (Source: SBC Communications Inc.) Thank you for letting me send this to you. Nina

PORTRAIT AND BIOGRAPHICAL RECORD William W. of Middletown, NY had Civil war service. His grandfather, Noah, War of 1812. The father Edward M d age 75, w. d age 77, was Elizabeth McPherson, Scotch-Irish. Ch. Wm W, the oldest b Wawayanda July 1, 1836, he m Amelia A. Mapes b Centerville, her fa Samuel C. her grandfather Eber, her mother Mary A. Holly her fa Richard Holly. Ch William C, Mary Libbie, Addie B and Samuel M. (this is a little confusing - it said ch. of Mrs. Carpenter, I assume also Wm W. This is the last of the biographies of the Carpenters in this book. I have had only one response from this series so am deducting that there is very little interest out there in these families. I also have data regarding the early deeds and mortgage of Or. Co. Carpenters and Wisners which I had thought I might put on the list, but will do that only if I have enough response to make me believe that there is any interest out there to make it worth my effort. Phoebe

more PORTRAIT AND BIOGRAPHICAL RECORD Not much on him. Wm S. Carpenter Port Jervis son of Jesse and Sarah (Barlow) Carpenter. Wm S. born Nov. 24, 1846 Deposit, Broome Co, NY . Jesse d. Feb 20, 1876. No other vitals in the sketch. Phoebe

from PORTRAIT AND BIOGRAPHICAL RECORD Wm H. Carpenter home in Hamptonburgh b Dec 24, 1824 son of Nathaniel Carpenter ntive of Goshen was of English descent. Nathaniel Carpenter m Miss Charlotte Coleman, Ch: John C d. 1882 at age 73; Oliver d 1891, Julia A. residing with her brother, Mary C. died in 1893 and Wm H. of this sketch ws the youngest. The farm on which he lives is old and was purchased by his father in 1807 (note: there are deed films that could probably confirm this). Fa. Nathiniel d. 1846. (Note: I don't think there was a marriage given for this Wm. H.). Phoebe

1920 records from Nyack, NY, list Alexander J. Randolph and his wife Rebecca. In 1920 they were living on Main Street in Nyack. They had three daughters at the time: Bessie Randolph who married David Lewis, Mildred Randolph who married a Purrington, and Norma Randolph who married a Lassiter. Does anyone on this list know the first names of Mildred's and Norma's husbands? I believe that this somehow ties in with my Lassiters. I have asked this on both the Randolph and Lassiter mailing lists and haven't received any response. Thanks in advance. Judy Lassiter

The 1850 census for Rockland County shows my family, Isaac & Rachel Barnes but also has several people living with them and I wonder who these people might be. The people were: Philip Montonya age 35 with children John 14, Ellen 12, Isaac 9, Elizabeth. Also Patrick Couner 18 and Martin Hatchet 28. Also, any information on BELDING BARNES b. abt. 1816-20 would be appreciated. He is a son of the above Barnes couple and stayed in Haverstraw. May have been involved with the Haverstraw Savings Bank in 1871. He was still living in 1890. Thanks, Margaret

Another Carpenter in PORTRAIT AND BIOGRAPHICAL RECORD Orange Co. NY. Wm H. Carpenter, Mt Hope. Native of Wallkill b. Feb 11, 1840, youngest ch. of William C. and Mary (Jessup) Carpenter. siblings bro Theodore d at age 30 and sis Clara E. d age 19. His fa b in Warwick moved to Wawayanda, d age 73, was a )Pres. Democrat and JP. Wm C. 1st w was Mary Jessup b in Minisink d age 22 sec w was Maria Reed who d leaving one ch. El Dallas of Slate Hill, his a3rd w was EMELINE CARPENTER now in Middletown: ch. Simon, Bud and Kirby. Wm H.Carpenter went Chemung Co. NY for 14 yrs,then returned to Or Co, Mt. Hope . Wm H. m Miss Emily Wilson of Or. Co. Nov 16, 1859; ch: Marw of Charles Leigh of NYC and 2 dy. Phoebe

Looking for parents of Moses Carpenter, Amos Carpenter book reports John Carpenter and Ruth Coe of LI. Book states that Ruth (Coe) Carpenter married a Mr. THURSTON after the death of John Carpenter and kept the records. Also sisters: Ruth Carpenter ;m Ephraim Maarston (killed at Minisink) then Peter Stagg. Stagg ch. Sally m. Gabriel Coleman s/o, Ch. James Milton, Bradner, and Susan. Temperence Carpenter m. Jeremiah Curtis Ch: John m Teresa__ and Hannah Marie__ Ch: Emily m Alsop n Aspell, Ephraim M, Thomas J. EphraimMarston Curtice SC m Sarah Elizaabeth ch. James Monroe Curtis Brothers of Moses Carpenter: John m. Abigail Moore (dau of Benjamin and Lois Cory) Benjamin m. Eunice Stewart Isaac m Susannah Little relict of Capt Little Increase m Jane (info. on brothers from the same book) Somebody besides me has GOT to be working on this family!!!!!!!! Thank you, will share, Phoebe

Another Carpenter in PORTRAIT AND BIOGRAPHICAL RECORD Orange Co. NY. Wm H. Carpenter, Mt Hope. Native of Wallkill b. Feb 11, 1840, youngest ch. of William C. and Mary (Jessup) Carpenter. siblings bro Theodore d at age 30 and sis Clara E. d age 19. His fa b in Warwick moved to Wawayanda, d age 73, was a )Pres. Democrat and JP. Wm C. 1st w was Mary Jessup b in Minisink d age 22 sec w was Maria Reed who d leaving one ch. El Dallas of Slate Hill, his a3rd w was EMELINE cARPENTER now in Middletown: ch. Simon, Bud and Kirby. Wm H.Carpenter went Chemung Co. NY for 14 yrs,then returned to Or Co, Mt. Hope . Wm H. m Miss Emily Wilson of Or. Co. Nov 16, 1859; ch: Marw of Charles Leigh of NYC and 2 dy.

Bob, I thought that I had more on the Rockland BELLs, but these two snips are all that I have. Looks like we share a few cousins. I'm sure that there is more on the BELLs in David Cole's History of Rockland County. Bob 111c1.412. Phebe/Famiche/Femmetye Gisner CONKLIN, b. Feb 18, 1773, bp. Mar 28, 1773, CDRC (# 68); m. Dec 2, 1772, Schra DRC, David CONKLIN, (b. Jul 31, 1772, bp. Sep 6, 1772, TDRC (# 2314)), son of Abraham Concklin and Margrietje Bell Q1. Abraham Brouwer SNEDEKER, b. Mar 15, 1792/3; d. 1873 (or 1884, will 1882), age 80; m. ca. 1823, Mary Ann Bell (b. ca. 1805). L. Rockland Co, NY. He received Lot 2, upon the division of his father's farm, having built a house on King's Highway. After brother Jabez' death, he received the homestead farm. He ran the farm until 1884. His earlier home was run as a hotel and willed to his son, Daniel.