I'm attempting to locate a birth certificate and more information regarding a Carlton Robert Mac Elroy born in Hillburn NY in 1906-1907. I contacted the NY Vital records, they show no such person. What local governmental ageny might have such a record? Does anyone know of these MAC ELROYS ???? Debbi Gould in Santa Barbara, CA

Jackie and Michelle, These are probably the same families. The name was spelled and prounounced many ways - what did the English and Dutch know about French names. The are two volumes of the DEMAREST geneaolgy in the New City Library, Rockland co, NY. For the complete reference, see the Webpages for the Genealogical Society of Rockland County and follow the links to Genealogies in the New City Library. http://www/~nyrockla/GSRC/ Bob Protzmann > -----Original Message----- > From: Michelle Stone [SMTP:71172.2370@compuserve.com] > Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 9:45 AM > To: NYROCKLA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA-L] 1910 ce > > >>Michelle... I have Demarest's (pronounced Demaray) from the Nyack/Tappan > > area: Margaret Elizabeth Haring b. 01/31/1851, wife of James Abraham > Hasbrouck... dau. of Fredericus and Margaret Demarest. Could there be a > connection? Jackie bunny-jo@webtv.net<< > > Hi, Jackie, > > I don't know if there's a connection between your Demarests and my > DEMAREs. > But I'm intrigued to learn that your Demarest surname is pronounced > "Demaray". I had seen a lot of Demarests in Nyack indexes and the cemetery > > there I visited, but hadn't before considered them to be related.... > > My PETER DEMARE was a wheelwright in Savannah, GA, 40 years old, in the > 1860 > census. He was a German immigrant born in Nassau, Germany, married to > SOPHIA > (age 25) born in Hanover, Germany, the census says. These names match the > names of parents (Peter Demare and Sophia Landsmann) on their daughter, > Margaret Demare Stone's death certificate. They had children Catherine and > > Henry in Savannah, and Margaret was born there circa 1864. After the Civil > > War they moved to Nyack, I was told. Margaret and her sister, "Kate > Demarie" > are buried in Massachusetts. The marriage of Peter and Sophia is listed as > > "Peter Demery and Sophia Landman" - so it is hard to tell just how the > surname was pronounced. > > If your Demarests in Nyack were from Germany, perhaps ours are related. I > did > find a Peter Demare coming into New York from Havre in 1855 on the S.S. > H.A. > Miller, a ship filled with German farmers--he was listed as a U.S. citizen > > age 38. In the Savannah records I found that a Peter Demere was > naturalized > May 1856. But if the DEMARE surname is pronounced Demeray, perhaps his > family > was originally from France, before Germany. > > I throw out this mess of details because that's all I have at the moment; > perhaps something here will ring a bell with you. > > Best wishes, > > Michelle Stone in Marietta, GA 71172.2370@compuserve.com > > Searching DEMERE / EHMANN / GILCHER / KREISCHER / LIPKE / ROBERTS (NY, MA) > / > STONE (NY, MA) / WOLFRATH > > > ==== NYROCKLA Mailing List ==== > If you enjoy NYROCKLA-L, please go to > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > and become a RootsWeb supporter. Also, be sure to > visit the Rockland Co. NY GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrockla/

>>Michelle... I have Demarest's (pronounced Demaray) from the Nyack/Tappan area: Margaret Elizabeth Haring b. 01/31/1851, wife of James Abraham Hasbrouck... dau. of Fredericus and Margaret Demarest. Could there be a connection? Jackie bunny-jo@webtv.net<< Hi, Jackie, I don't know if there's a connection between your Demarests and my DEMAREs. But I'm intrigued to learn that your Demarest surname is pronounced "Demaray". I had seen a lot of Demarests in Nyack indexes and the cemetery there I visited, but hadn't before considered them to be related.... My PETER DEMARE was a wheelwright in Savannah, GA, 40 years old, in the 1860 census. He was a German immigrant born in Nassau, Germany, married to SOPHIA (age 25) born in Hanover, Germany, the census says. These names match the names of parents (Peter Demare and Sophia Landsmann) on their daughter, Margaret Demare Stone's death certificate. They had children Catherine and Henry in Savannah, and Margaret was born there circa 1864. After the Civil War they moved to Nyack, I was told. Margaret and her sister, "Kate Demarie" are buried in Massachusetts. The marriage of Peter and Sophia is listed as "Peter Demery and Sophia Landman" - so it is hard to tell just how the surname was pronounced. If your Demarests in Nyack were from Germany, perhaps ours are related. I did find a Peter Demare coming into New York from Havre in 1855 on the S.S. H.A. Miller, a ship filled with German farmers--he was listed as a U.S. citizen age 38. In the Savannah records I found that a Peter Demere was naturalized May 1856. But if the DEMARE surname is pronounced Demeray, perhaps his family was originally from France, before Germany. I throw out this mess of details because that's all I have at the moment; perhaps something here will ring a bell with you. Best wishes, Michelle Stone in Marietta, GA 71172.2370@compuserve.com Searching DEMERE / EHMANN / GILCHER / KREISCHER / LIPKE / ROBERTS (NY, MA) / STONE (NY, MA) / WOLFRATH

Michelle... I have Demarest's (pronounced Demaray) from the Nyack/ Tappan area: Margaret Elizabeth Haring b. 01/31/1851, wife of James Abraham Hasbrouck... dau. of Fredericus and Margaret Demarest. Could there be a connection? Jackie bunny-jo@webtv.net

>>The 1910 Rockland County census is indexed in a book. You might want to try and get the book through inter-library loan.<< Thank-you, I will try that if nothing better turns up. In the meantime, would I be too forward if I asked if anyone here has access to the book and willingness to lookup the DEMARE/DEMERE/DEMARIE/DEMEREY family (esp. PETER, SOPHIA, KATE/CATHERINE and HENRY) for me? I am planning to visit the Georgia Dept. of Archives and History on Saturday and would be happy to do a lookup swap. Many thanks, Michelle in Marietta, GA 71172.2370@compuserve.com Searching: DEMARE / EHMANN / GILCHER / KREISCHER / LIPKE / ROBERTS (MA, NY) / STONE (NY, MA) / WOLFRATH

I missed the original question but saw this answer. The 1910 Rockland County census is indexed in a book. You might want to try and get the book through inter-library loan. Ruth (Schmitz) Cherecwich Searching: JUNGE, CHERECWICH, TANGES (TOENGES), MUNN, LEMM in Rockland County.

If I'm not mistaken, it is the Village of Nyack within the Town of Orangetown. The census tract you are looking for may be listed under the Town or Orangetown and not under the Village of Nyack. Good luck. Best regards, Kelvin Kean Elverson, Pennsylvania

Hi, everyone, I am a new subscriber to this list. I am researching my STONE and DEMARE ancestors who had ties to Nyack, NY. My grandfather, PHILIP NELSON STONE was supposedly born in Nyack in 1886, but I have been unable to scare up any vital records proof for him, either from Albany or the local jurisdiction. Have also checked there (by mail requests) for proof of his parents' marriage (EDWIN B. STONE and MARGARET DEMARE) circa 1885 and similarly turned up nothing. This has been frustrating. The DEMAREs (Margaret's parents, PETER and SOPHIA) were German immigrants who earlier settled in Savannah, GA and then, I was told, moved to Nyack after the Civil War. Of course I can't find them there in any U.S. census indexes! Then when I went to comb through the actual 1910 U.S. census for Nyack, neither I nor the librarians could even find NYACK on the rolls! (We found parts of Rockland Co., but no Nyack.) I am sure someone on the list can tell me exactly on what roll of microfilm the 1910 U.S. census for the city of Nyack is. Then I will go and look through the whole town for any DEMAREs. (By 1910, my STONEs had gone back to Massachusetts.) Thanks in advance for any help. Michelle Stone 71172.2370@compuserve.com Marietta, GA

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--part1_20ae1091.24605955_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Folks, I see these terms a lot in the old Orange County deeds and books. Does anyone know the history, early settlers, etc. and present location of these areas? I have seen Greycourt associated with the early Cromeline tract and associated with the names Phineas Dun, Joseph Carpenter, and William Morrell, and maybe Anselem Helms. Does anyone have any information on any of the above families (this is 18th century). I have seen Blaggs Clove associated with Woodhull and a John Carpenter and others. Does anyone know which JOHN CARPENTER this might have been and information on his family and descendants. I have seen the name Craigsville associated with Soloman Carpenter, and perhaps, an early JOHN CARPENTER. There were many JOHN CARPENTERs mentioned in the history of ORANGE County and I am trying to sort them out. Any assitance would be appreciated! Phoebe in CA --part1_20ae1091.24605955_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: MzCortez@aol.com From: MzCortez@aol.com Full-name: MzCortez Message-ID: <20ae1091.246058e4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:06:28 EDT Subject: Craigsville, Blaggs Clove, Greycourt, Orange Co. NY To: NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Dear Folks, I see these terms a lot in the old Orange County deeds and books. Does anyone know the history, early settlers, etc. and present location of these areas? I have seen Greycourt associated with the early Cromeline tract and associated with the names Phineas Dun, Joseph Carpenter, and William Morrell, and maybe Anselem Helms. Does anyone have any information on any of the above families (this is 18th century). I have seen Blaggs Clove associated with Woodhull and a John Carpenter and others. Does anyone know which JOHN CARPENTER this might have been and information on his family and descendants. I have seen the name Craigsville associated with Soloman Carpenter, and perhaps, an early JOHN CARPENTER. There were many JOHN CARPENTERs mentioned in the history of ORANGE County and I am trying to sort them out. Any assitance would be appreciated! Phoebe in CA I have seen --part1_20ae1091.24605955_boundary--

--part1_e9602b8e.246050d8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-05-04 09:26:56 EDT, MzCortez writes: << Dear Folks, Does anyone have information of this couple? Joanne Carpenter was b. Orange Co. NY, dau of Moses Carpenter and Joanna Smith after 1778. Carpenters moved to Onondaga Co. 1794. We have found Joanna and Jesse Reed marriages listed both in NJ and Westchester Co. (do not know if either relates to this couple). Joanna and Jesse Reed were named in the Moses Carpenter will of 1828 as living in Aurelius, Cayuga Co. Their children were listed as Julya Ann Perry, Elisa Ann Moredock (or Murdock) James C. Reed Abigail Mariah Reed maybe also Jonnah Fay and Betsy Gardner. Her sisters were Susannah (Carpenter) Redmond, married to Michael Redmond Abigail (Carpenter) Munro and her half sister Elizabeth (Carpenter) m. James Wisner in Orange Co., NY. There were Reeds from Orange Co. and NJ both at about the same time. Am trying to identify the correct Reed family and what happened to Joanna's family. Thank you, Phoebe >> --part1_e9602b8e.246050d8_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: MzCortez@aol.com From: MzCortez@aol.com Full-name: MzCortez Message-ID: <e9602b8e.24604fa0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:26:56 EDT Subject: Jesse Reed m Joanna Carpenter, NY aprox 1800 To: READ-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Dear Folks, Does anyone have information of this couple? Joanne Carpenter was b. Orange Co. NY, dau of Moses Carpenter and Joanna Smith after 1778. Carpenters moved to Onondaga Co. 1794. We have found Joanna and Jesse Reed marriages listed both in NJ and Westchester Co. (do not know if either relates to this couple). Joanna and Jesse Reed were named in the Moses Carpenter will of 1828 as living in Aurelius, Cayuga Co. Their children were listed as Julya Ann Perry, Elisa Ann Moredock (or Murdock) James C. Reed Abigail Mariah Reed maybe also Jonnah Fay and Betsy Gardner. Her sisters were Susannah (Carpenter) Redmond, married to Michael Redmond Abigail (Carpenter) Munro and her half sister Elizabeth (Carpenter) m. James Wisner in Orange Co., NY. There were Reeds from Orange Co. and NJ both at about the same time. Am trying to identify the correct Reed family and what happened to Joanna's family. Thank you, Phoebe --part1_e9602b8e.246050d8_boundary--

I have a torn and tattered copy of my 2x great grandmother Dorcas JOHNSON LAKE's obituary. I do not know what newspaper it came from and would appreciate help in find a complete copy. "The funeral of the late Mrs. Dorcas LAKE, the mother of D R LAKE and Mrs. Ezra MEAD of the village, took place from her late residence in Rockland Street, on Wednesday afternoon. She was respected and loved by everyone." This funeral took place on January 31st, 1881. Although the obit does not mention them she also had two other sons. Cortland JOHNSON LAKE of Buffalo, Erie County, NY. and my great grandfather John H. Lake of Susquehanna County, PA. at the time of her funeral John was living in Binghamton, Broome County, NY. I would like to know if anyone could tell me the names of the existing newspapers at that time? Also would anyone know how I would go about finding if her house still exists? I live in Attica, Wyoming County, NY and will be making a trip to Rockland County some time in the next year. For this reason I am trying to research as much as I can before going there. Thanks for any assistance, Sincerely, Fran (LAKE) KING

Centenary was a section at the north end of the present New City. It was along South Mountain Road, on the soythern slope of High Tor Mountain. There was a Methodist Church there (which still stands vacant) which was like a chapel (and I believe supplied by) the New City Methodist Church. Bob Protzmann > -----Original Message----- > From: CWalsh4450@aol.com [SMTP:CWalsh4450@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 7:36 PM > To: NYROCKLA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYROCKLA-L] Looking for Centenary? > > Hi, does anyone know where a place called Centenary was in Rockland? My > great-great grandfather lived in Rockland for about 70 years. He died in > 1927 and his obit. mentioned that he originally settled in a place called > Centenary. The spelling may be wrong because the obituary was almost > illegible. > > Thanks for any help, > > Chris Walsh > > > ==== NYROCKLA Mailing List ==== > If you enjoy NYROCKLA-L, please go to > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > and become a RootsWeb supporter. Also, be sure to > visit the Rockland Co. NY GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrockla/

Margaret, New Hempstead Pres. Church [Old English] #2293, 2294 Marriage 18 April 1832 "Benjamin Drake, carpenter, Peekskill and Eliza Barnes, Haverstraw." Witnesses: Isaac Barns and his wife. Married by Samuel Pelton Spring Valley Reformed Church #772 in index. Member "#640 April 18 1919 Wallace Barnes Curtis." Piermont Ref Church #4244 Marriage "Alfred Smith Barnes and Mary M Smith 11/7/83 Brooklyn, Piermont" [1883] #4268 Marriage "Walter Post aand Lillie May Barnes 10/21/87" [1887] Ref: Rockland County, NY Church Records - Three Churches in One Volume. 1. New Hempstead Pres. Church 2. Spring Valley Reformed Church 3. Piermont Reformed Church >From the Association of Blauvelt Descendants Genealogical Collection. Ethel Subj: [NYROCKLA-L] New Hempstead Presbyterian Records Date: 4/30/99 4:01:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: SMer621130@aol.com To: NYROCKLA-L@rootsweb.com Does anyone have access to the BDM records of the New Hempstead Presbyterian Church of Rockland County, NY for the period 1810-70? Looking for Barns, Barnes. Thanks, Margaret

Only Barnes, Barns in New Hempsted Pres. Ch. records: Benjamin Drake carpenter res. Peekskill m. Eliza Barnes, res. Haverstraw 18 Apr 1832 wit: Isaa Barns and his wife.

Hi, does anyone know where a place called Centenary was in Rockland? My great-great grandfather lived in Rockland for about 70 years. He died in 1927 and his obit. mentioned that he originally settled in a place called Centenary. The spelling may be wrong because the obituary was almost illegible. Thanks for any help, Chris Walsh

Does anyone have access to the BDM records of the New Hempstead Presbyterian Church of Rockland County, NY for the period 1810-70? Looking for Barns, Barnes. Thanks, Margaret

I've posted by surname to PolandBorder and Rootsweb. Where else can I post to get my names out there to hopefully connect with others? I know my parents, gparents and ggparents resided in both NJ & NY but not real sure of locations yet so not sure where to post. Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to make myself a list to keep track of where I've posted so I can track progress. Thanks all. Loretta Schabowsky Sutton in Millville, Cumberland Co., NJ LAS 1958@aol.com Searching for:::SKABOWSKI/SCHABOWSKY, BOLCHON/BOLCHONUS, LUBY/LUBOWSKI for starters on my father's side.

Ed, the only Abraham DeClark I found in my FGS's was baptized 13 Mar 1687 in New York...no other location given. He may have been a twin to Daniel as they were baptized at the same time. I find no mention of a later one or of a Nancy DeClark. I am forwarding this to the Rockland Co. list-site. Bertie Hoch

If you go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/NYROCKLA-L/ you will see that the new RootsWeb mailing list archive facility is working! You can both SEARCH and BROWSE postings from the past month. I think that more old postings will be added over time. Enjoy, --Bruce (Bruce Hamilton, Redondo Beach, CA) bhami@netcom.com http://home.earthlink.net/~bhami/