Interesting to see the name Gobel -- Here's a few bits and pieces and alternate spellings of the name -- Goble, Bartholomew Bartholomew Goble He is likely the "Bartle Goble" listed in the Franklin Township Rateables for 1778 and Jan-Feb 1779 ("Bertholomew Goble") as a householder. "New Jersey Rateables: Franklin Township 1778 & 1779" in Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey, Jan 1966, p. 29 [Pat's note: the name Bartholonew is interesting since it also pops up in the Call family.] Goble, John John Goble He is likely the "John Goble" listed in the Franklin Township Rateables for 1778 and Jan-Feb 1779 as a householder. "New Jersey Rateables: Franklin Township 1778 & 1779" in Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey, Jan 1966, p. 22 Gable, Hans Jury (Hanss Gorg Gebel1) Hans George Gable (Gebel) m. Ophelia (Ofilea) Hanss Gorg Gebel and wife Ofilea wit. the bp. 2 Aug 1761 Ramapo Lutheran Church, of Wilham Ekhard's dau. Elizabeth (b. 19 July 1761). ---Sources: [1] "Ramapo Lutheran Church Records, 1750-1817" in Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society, Vol. VIII, No. 1 (April 1913 From The Minutes of the Board of Proprietors of the Eastern Division of New Jersey from 1725 to 1744, Perth Amboy (Re: Ramapo Tract; paraphrased unless in quotes) (Vol. III, p. 403, chart)...19 August 1763...Board executed lease at Romopock to Simon Hawse & Hans Jury Gable, lot no. 25, 208 acres at 42 s, 9 August 1763. Gable, Hans Georg, Jr. (Gebel1) Hans George Gable, Jr. Hans George Gebel Junior and Elizabeth Gebel wit. bp. 14 April 1765 Ramapo Lutheran Church, of Elizabeth, dau. of Jost Miller.1 ---Sources: [1] "Ramapo Lutheran Church Records, 1750-1817" in Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society, Vol. VIII, No. 1 (April 1913), p. 12 Gable Women: Dortie Gable m. George Dill; they had a ch., Maria, bp. 27 July 1794 Paramus Ref Ch Pat -- Pat & Walter Wardell Englewood, FL [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2016.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My email is [email protected] Would like to see your pages. I am going to be scanning in some of the older photos soon and I will send you a copy of that one.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Call,Pitt,Youmans,Conklin. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2016.2.1.1 Message Board Post: The book called Families of the Ramapos,by Marjorie Smeltzer-Stevenot.Has alot info on MY Call family,and of Janes.Also my pages and notes are at http://members.tripod.com/ladypat550/index.html,These are pages i have been working on.Theres a picture of 1 Jane Pitt who married my Call family.Tippett seems to be ileget children of My GreatGreatGrandmother Nelly Babcock Call,and her husband Samuel Call,parents of my GreatGrandfather Hiram Call,along with his brothers and sisters.Who are all mentioned in the will.Surnames also are Furman,McElroy,Odell,Parsons,and Call.Would love to see the Picture you have .Wonder if its the same Jane Call as in my family?.?Whats your email?Ill send you my pages.....Morris NJ is mentioned.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2016.2.1 Message Board Post: I had many relatives in those areas of Morris County NJ It seems that my lines crossed back and forth between Hunterdon and Morris counties. I know there are Tippetts (and variations) buried in Hunterdon and Morris counties. As I stated my father always told me that we had the Lenni Indians in his family line and I am now wondering if he was not talking about the 'Ramapo Indians' I have read a little on what people call the Mountain People or Jacksons Whites and the more I have read and the more people are telling me I really feel this is where her family origionated from. In a very old picture I have of whom I believe is Jane and her husband John Lambert the woman is dressed 'Indian like' that is the only way I can think to word it. How many Janes were listed in this book, do you know? I know in the census records it states that she and her family were born in NJ. However I can find no Call family that would fit her in the NJ 1830 to 1870 Census records. I have started to go through the census records page by page hoping that there was a spelling mistake and the search is just not catching it. The cemetery that Jane is buried in has no more Church there and I have been told that no one knows where the old records went. She is the only Call buried there and there is only one other Call grave site that I know of in a Cemetery not to far from the town she is buried in but they are much newer graves. Any ideas? Thanks Dawn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Call Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2016.2 Message Board Post: In my grgreat-grandmothers will to her son Hiram Call,it mentions,grandchildren of deceased,as Ellen Call Parsons- res-Mount Hope,Morris Co.N.J.,also,Julia Call Tippett and children(Tippett),Rockaway,Morris Co,NJ..Along with others members of the family are mentioned.I am of the Call family,Calls Hollow.In a book called Families of the Ramapos,On the Call surname it mentions a few Jane's.?...I Guess you could call us Mt.Folk,i always thought we were Country Folk.Supposealy Little Indian,as our Grands had mentioned there was.Theres others mentioned in this copy of a will.Anything ring a bell?.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2044 Message Board Post: I am trying to research Andrew Wilson Hall his spouses and family. He was originally from Scotland, born 1855. He immigrated in the early 1880's and took his oath about 1886 in Rockland. Census records show the following places of residence. 1892 (state) District of Haverstraw (with his 2nd. wife and 2 children presumably from his first marriage)) 1900 (federal),15 Alice Street, Haverstraw Village (5 children) 1910 (federal),Town Road, Stonypoint Town (same 5 children) 1920 family in Manhattan. He does not show with them. 1930 family in Manhattan. He does not show with them. He appears to have died in 1931 in County of Manhattan. The name of his first wife is unknown and his second wife is thought to be Lydia Bronson (born in New York abt. 1855/1856 died abt 1942). We have no marriage dates as yet. Between his 2 families he had 8 children, 3 dying as children. The ones known about are Jean (or Jane), John, Eva, Amelia and Frances. There is a Hall family burial plot somewhere along the Hudson but I am not familiar with the area so could use some help locating it. I'm assuming it would be near Haverstraw County? According to their web site Rockland County only holds marriage records from 1908-1935. Where would I look for earlier ones e.g. 1880's thru 1890's? I'm planning on sending off for his death and naturalization records to see what information they contain but in the meantime do any of you know what avenues I can research? Thanks. Carol

Does anyone know if a death index for Rockland County? I am trying to determine the exact date of death for my great-grandfather, Thomas BLAKE, who I believe died in May 1914 in Ramapo. I would appreciate any suggestions on where I can look/research to obtain this information. Thank you very much!! Shannon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2014.1 Message Board Post: Try The Journal-News, which now covers Westchester and Rockland Counties.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2016.1 Message Board Post: Hi - I can tell you that there were members of the CALL family living in the Town of Ramapo, near Pomona or Ladentown ca 1969. There's a road there called "Call Hollow Road" and I believe the name was taken from that family. Hope this helps.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2042.3 Message Board Post: You might try the Historical Society of Rockland County, located in New City, New York. Here's the website: http://www.rocklandhistory.org/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2033.3 Message Board Post: As an aside, Wanamaker is an old family name in Rockland County - existing to this day. Wanamakers was a funeral home in Airmont, although it is now listed as Wanamaker & Carlough, located in Suffern. Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1528.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I believe the red brick building you refer to at Rockland Community College is (or was) the administration building, and if it was called the Alms House it would occur to me that the building was used as a poor house. I'm a graduate of RCC (also of Ramapo Senior High....right up the road....) and when I was a college student there, I worked in that building in the Continuing Education Office. The building also held the cafeteria and student lounge. This was LONG before the student union building was built in the '70s. I haven't been back for more than 20 years, so I don't know if any of these buildings still exist. Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1528.1.2 Message Board Post: Why Regina, I had no idea they had closed Letchworth Village! I lived quite close to there (in Pomona) and remember it very well. I wonder what happened to all those folk living there.

Don't know about Rockland co. but thought you might find this interesting. In 1860 the County Home in Hackensack - {listed as the poor house on one inmates death certificate} had 26 inmates of all ages, both blacks and whites, also in the home, including many children, of whom 19 were paupers, 3 were insane, 2 were idiotic, and 2 were foolish. 1860 U. S. census, Bergen County, New Jersey, population schedule, New Barbadoes Township, Hackensack post office, p. 460 (penned) page no. 72, dwelling 579, family 614, line 15, Stephen Westervelt, County Poor House, (John C. Demarest Warden); digital image by subscription, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com: accessed 21 November 2005); from National Archives microfilm M653, Roll 683. Ree On May 3, 2006, at 7:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: > The Poor House was mosatl often referred to as the Alms House. It was > originally a wooden structure, but was replaced by a brick structure. > The brick structure remains and is used as the Administration Building > for Rockland Community College. The activities of the Alms House were > moved to the Rockland County Health Complex, in Pomona and are under > the Department of Social Services. > Maria (Ree) Pratt Hopper compiler of The Hopper Family Genealogy; Descendants of Andries Willemszen Hoppe(n) of New Amsterdam 1651-1658; First Six Generations Visit www.reetree.com for information - click on "My Book" Please also visit my larger web site - Ree's Trees http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~reetrees/bhome.index.html

The Poor House was mosatl often referred to as the Alms House. It was originally a wooden structure, but was replaced by a brick structure. The brick structure remains and is used as the Administration Building for Rockland Community College. The activities of the Alms House were moved to the Rockland County Health Complex, in Pomona and are under the Department of Social Services. Bob Protzmann ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, May 3, 2006 11:44 am Subject: [NYROCKLA] Re: Suffern/Mental Hospital > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1528.2 > > Message Board Post: > > there was a "poor house" in Suffern on College Avenue. The house > was on the property of what is now Rockland community College. I > do not know what the name of the house was, but it was converted > for use by the college. > > > ==== NYROCKLA Mailing List ==== > Visit the Rockland Co. NY GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrockla/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1528.2 Message Board Post: there was a "poor house" in Suffern on College Avenue. The house was on the property of what is now Rockland community College. I do not know what the name of the house was, but it was converted for use by the college.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Drew Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/775.833.1099.2 Message Board Post: I hit post too quickly! I have never given a birthplace for Gilbert in any of my posts, so I don't know why you're asking me. There are many theories (including Westchester NY and Barnstable MA), but to my knowledge no proof has ever been found. The first time Gilbert shows up, he's in Westchester Co NY (on West Farms) as a young boy (an apprentice). One of his sons was born in Yorktown and another in Cortlandt, before they went to Putnam Co.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Drew Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/775.833.1099.1 Message Board Post: I don't have a source for Gilbert's birthplace - no one does.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/775.833.1099 Message Board Post: Could you please give me your source for Gilbert's Birth place. I had thought it to be N.Y.; Yorktown or White Plains.