This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rose, Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/1230.1270 Message Board Post: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NYROCKLA/2001-04/0987375007 has some nice comments on Doodletown. Photos are published in several books also. Doodletown became park lands so long ago that it is naturalized. Also do an advanced google search and tell it to omit fifers - a goodly number of the Doodletown items will relate to "Birding" in the area. We are interested in the Rose family in Rockland County and our preliminary research is on file at the Rockland Room at the New City Library dating from Jan. 1993. The Roses in northern Rockland were probably mostly descendants of Jacob Rose (approx 1740 to 1803) who had seven sons. Each of them had 5-10 children. The place populated up fast. The eldest also named Jacob (approx 1770 to 1859) and a number of others were named Jacob. Mary Rose born about 1810 (I cannot recall her parentage right now) appears to have been married to George Weiant. they may have lived up that way. Ruben Brown Ruben Brown

Could your Jacob be brother to John Rose? Son of William and Elizabeth? Smile And The World Smiles Too -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 29 May, 2006 1:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYROCKLA] Re: Rose, Garrison This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rose, Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/1230.1270 Message Board Post: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NYROCKLA/2001-04/0987375007 has some nice comments on Doodletown. Photos are published in several books also. Doodletown became park lands so long ago that it is naturalized. Also do an advanced google search and tell it to omit fifers - a goodly number of the Doodletown items will relate to "Birding" in the area. We are interested in the Rose family in Rockland County and our preliminary research is on file at the Rockland Room at the New City Library dating from Jan. 1993. The Roses in northern Rockland were probably mostly descendants of Jacob Rose (approx 1740 to 1803) who had seven sons. Each of them had 5-10 children. The place populated up fast. The eldest also named Jacob (approx 1770 to 1859) and a number of others were named Jacob. Mary Rose born about 1810 (I cannot recall her parentage right now) appears to have been married to George Weiant. they may have lived up that way. Ruben Brown Ruben Brown ==== NYROCKLA Mailing List ==== Visit the Rockland Co. NY GenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrockla/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rose, Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/1826.1.1 Message Board Post: When I researched "Rose family entries" in the bound volume files in 1993, a number of volumes did not appear to have been disturbed in 25 or more years. Does anyone have any idea when the microfilms in FHCs were made? Of course I was just looking at the summaries. Do the detailed files still exist? I do not expect that they would have destroyed for any reason. Ruben Brown

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Call,Pitt. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1930.1.3.1 Message Board Post: Yes,i know and have the book.Im in it,under Contributors,and you can find me listed in Call and Pitt of the book.But i think some of the things in the book,may be wrong.Dunno.Alot right.page 43,my Grandfather Henry Call.and all other relatives. Thankyou.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1930.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Kari... This Rockland County board is the fastest thing I've ever seen. You guys are really on top of things. I've only gotten back to the 1850 Census but think that I'm right on target. I also received your email off the boards. The answer that I posted has everything that I currently know about the lineage. I'm doing this for someone that is in my husbands lineage. It's a sad story and so I told them I'd look up a few things. Now, I would love some confirmation on my findings. Well, it's early in the morning in Texas where I live and no coffee yet!!! Please read my reply to Pat... Thanks so much for writing. deb---

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1930.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Pat... Wow, you are really fast! This is what I've got starting with what I know and going backwards chronologically... * 1930; Census Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: 2140; Page: 27A; Enumeration District: 500; Image: 56.0. Dwelling 364/Family 487 (Home owned by Stover?, Allen M/owner - multiple occupancy dwelling) Dwelling 364/Family 490 {Barton, Everett S - head,m,w,28,Mass,(father born)NewYork,(mother born)NewYork (manager/restaurant)} Gladys?Lacys? A - wife,f,w,29,NewHampshire,(father born)Canada,(mother born)Canada (manager/restaurant) Jean B - dau,f,w,9,Mass,(father born)Canada,(mother born)NewHampshire The family lives at 5030 Spruce Street and rents the dwelling for $40.00 per month. The family also owns a "radio set." Everett indicates that he married for the first time at age 25 and Gladys? indicates that she married for the first time at age 19. It appears that there is an "x" in the left of the column that reads daughter so Jean may not be the natural child of Everett S. Barton. The columns indicating the birth locations of the parents confirm that Jean B. is not the child of Everett. He indicates that he has never served in the military. Everyone in the household can read and write. * 1920; Census Place: North Adams Ward 1, Berkshire, Massachusetts; Roll: T625_681; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 32; Image: 119. Dwelling 5/Family 6 {Barton, Daniel - head,m,w,61,NY,NY,NY (occupation: none)} Grace - wife,f,w,42,NY,NY,NY (occupation: none) Jay - son,m,w,22,Mass,NY,NY (salesman/groceries) {Everett - son,m,w,18,Mass,NY,NY (clerk/express company)} Dorothy - dau,f,w,15,Mass,NY,NY The family lives at 1130 State?Ttate? Road and the corner of Cross Road. The family owns their home which is "F" free of mortgage. * World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Daniel Call Barton City: North Adams County: Berkshire State: Massachusetts Birth Date: 8 Jan 1899 Race: White Roll: 1684875 DraftBoard: 1 * Notes for above WW1 Draft Registration: Lists his nearest relative as Irene Frances Barton. Daniel and Irene live at 1077 Mass Ave. He is tall and slender with Dark Brown eyes and Black hair. He has no physical disqualifications and claims no exemptions. Pat, I haven't located the Daniel Barton family for the 1910 Census... yet!!! * 1900; Census Place: North Adams Ward 1, Berkshire, Massachusetts; Roll: T623 632; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 47. Dwelling 237/Family 278 {Barton, Daniel - head,w,m,Jan,1858,42,NY,NY,NY (Supt. Brick?Birch? works)} Grace - wife,w,f,Apr.1876,24, (both married 4 yrs; 2 children/2 living) Jay - son,w,m,Feby,1897,3,Mass,NY,NY Daniel Jr. - son,w,m,Jan,1899,1,Mass,NY,NY The family lives on State Road, however, the homes are not numbered. * 1880; Census Place: Stony Point, Rockland, New York; Roll: T9_924; Family History Film: 1254924; Page: 278.3000; Enumeration District: 60; Image: 0558. Dwelling 177/Family 219 Barton James - w,m,53,WorkmanBrickYd,NY,NY,NY {Mary - w,f,49,wife,KeepingHouse,NY,NY,NY} {Daniel - w,m,22,son,WorsinBrickYd,NY,NY,NY} Nancy R. - w,f,13,dau,AtHome,NY,NY,NY Kittie - w,f,23,dau,AtHome,NY,NY,NY (again... born in New York) Rose, William - w,m,21,Boarder,WorksInBrickYd,NY,NY,NY * 1870; Census Place: Stony Point, Rockland, New York; Roll: M593_1087; Page: 735; Image: 642. Dwelling 545/Family 579 (living in the home of Sylvester Ballard/31 yrs/stonemason) Family 580 Barton, James - 44,m,w,ForemanB.Yards,NewYork {Mary - 41,f,w,KeepingHouse,NewYork} James H - 20,m,w,Boatman,NewYork Warren - 19,m,w,BrickYards,NewYork Frances M - 17,f,w,AtHome,NewYork Mary C - 15,f,w,Connecticut... attended school within the year (it was NewYork in 1860) {Daniel D - 12,m,w,NewYork... attended school within the year} Nancy 3,f,w,New York * 1860; Census Place: Haverstraw, Rockland, New York; Roll: M653_851; Page: 0; Image: 137. Dwelling 916/Family 917 James Barton - 34,m,BrickYardLaborer,NewYork (cannot read or write) {Mary - 29,f,NewYork} James H - 11,m,NewYork (attended school within the year) Warren - 9,m,NewYork (attended school within the year) Frances M - 6,f,NewYork (attended school within the year) Mary C - 4,f,NewYork {Daniel - 2,m,NewYork} ........on the same page & one household away... Dwelling 914/Family 915 Samuel Call - 23,m,FarmLaborer,New York Melissa - 18,f,NewYork This couple was married within the year. The last name of Call is interesting because Daniel's child "Daniel, Jr." born in 1899 has the middle name of Call. * 1850; Census Place: Haverstraw, Rockland, New York; Roll: M432_588; Page: 327 A; 284. Dwelling 639/Family 661 {Samuel Call - 43,m,Mason,NewYork} Sarah - 19,f,NewYork Page 327 B; Image: 285. Rachael - 16,f,NewYork Samuel - 14,m,NewYork Julia - 11,f,NewYork...attended school within the year Mathew - 7,m,NewYork...attended school within the year Family 662? James Barton - 25,m,NewYork {Mary - 19,f,NewYork} James - 1,m,NewYork I checked thoroughly the records and noticed a number of similar names with very close birth dates. However, I do believe that this is the correct line. I am marking the direct descendants in brackets {}... By the way, I noticed the web page in your notes. It was wonderful to see the confirmation on the Barton Call union. Really, if this isn't correct then I need to be corrected but the pieces surely do fit! Since, I'm not a "Call" researcher I knew that I needed to find an expert... guess what... you're it! (grin) Thanks again for writing so fast... deb---

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Call Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1930.1.2 Message Board Post: I see it in my notes,you may be right.What i have is... Samuel N Call-b-abt.9/20/1860?Cortlandt RDC-d-7/21/1882?-m-Eliza Ennis?10/1/1828 NYC.Call children-Sarah-m-George Crum,Mary-b-ca-1831?-m-James Barton.,Rachel-m-Nicholas Rose,Samuel-b-9/14/1836-d-8/7/1901-Cornwall,Julia-b-?1839,Mathew-b-1843,Nathan-m?-b-?.....These are my notes.My decendants-Nicholas Call Sr.on down,and his son Samuel Call.Anything ring a bell?.Im working on my notes of the Call family's,as mom is a Call.She was born 1914.I Have web page on it all.Notes.Thanks for the info.Let me know if anything sounds correct.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1930.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Deb, I would love to know more about your information. I too am a descendant of Nicholas Call through his son Henry. Thanks, Kari

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1930.1 Message Board Post: Hello Pat... I believe that I may be researching your family. The surname is Barton and in working my way back from the 1930 Census I was getting the guys more defined by using the WW1 Draft Registrations because I could get an exact birth date and more information. I was quite puzzled when I came up with a Daniel Call Barton. As I'm sure that you will agree... this isn't the most common middle name in the world. Well, still working my way back in time and I ran upon a "Call" on the same page with the Barton family. I was pretty sure that I was on to something. Then, when I found James and Mary Barton in Samuel's household in the 1850 I knew why one of their grandsons ended up with the name. I am researching for another family member so I'm not the direct descendant but would like further information and will be happy to share... thanks again, deb---

I am currently researching my great x3 grandfather, John SNIDER, you came from New York state sometime in the early 1790s and lived in Adolphustown until 1809, when he purchased a lot in Ameliasburg, Prince Edward Co, Ontario, Canada. His wife was a Jannetje QUACKENBOSCH, and they were married in Tappan, Rockland Co, New York, in 1792. John is listed on the 2nd Regiment Prince Edward County, Ontario Militia 1822 along with several of his sons. His youngest son, David, my g x2 grandfather, was born abt 1815, and appears to have had a different mother than many of his siblings.I have found several references to there being half-siblings but I am unable to find any record of a second marriage for John. It would seem that David's mother was not the Jannetje QUACKENBOSCH, because she would have been abt. 47 years of age at the time of David's birth. I am wondering if John married a second time in Rockland County before coming to Adolphustown, Ontario, Canada. I am also trying to find John's parents ... Hendrick SNYDER married to Sarah LAKEmight be a possibility but I can't find a birth record for John listing his parents. Any help, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/761.767.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Nikki, I believe we are cousins. I rememebr my father speaking of a brother Nicky. Unfortunately, I don't have much information on my fathers side of my family, but would love to share the little bit I know. Someone contacted me through this message board a few years ago, and she was my half sister. Her name is Lenore, she lives in Arizona and she never knew I existed. I knew she existed from when I was 12 years old. ( I am 37 now) We spoke on the phone a few times and emailed each other, but the last email I sent got no response sadly. My father Donald (aka Danny) was a twin, his sisters name was Lillian who died on Feb 13th sometime in the 60's I think ... he wore a necklace with the number 13 on it ... that is a very strong memory for me. I would love to speak with you if you would like, I have always been interested in knowing my Fathers side of my family. My number is (772) 398-4225 I look forward to speaking with you. Maria

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: basilone Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/761.767.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am the daughter of Nicholas Basilone also from the Bronx, NY. I believe our father's were brothers. I am trying to research their family history. Have you come up with anything?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/86.379.2 Message Board Post: I am the daughter of Clara Gordineer (Wetzler) All people listed are my Aunts and Uncles. Robert Gaudineer born 8/28/1877, died 1/27/1938 married Edith Ackerman on 5/14/1899. There were 12 children all are now deceased but Ruth, Edna and Ralph. Edith had two step-mothers. Her birth Mother (Sarah Ann) died when she was born. Her father married Sarah Matilda Wilson who died in 1887 and then married Amy. Pleasantside is in Westchester County NY. I have some additional information on the family. PS My Uncle Steve named the road - not the other way around.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/1751.3 Message Board Post: Hey rick, Can you drop me a line at my home e-mail [email protected] I have a big question for you Thanks Debi Zebrowski

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/820.1152.1.1.1 Message Board Post: First Jane Pitt married John Call,2nd time married Baisley,is that correct?.Mary Elizabeth Call was daughter of Jane Pitt Call Baisley.Mary Elizabeth Call married my grandmother's brother Ira Pitt.(Jerry Fords family).I Have pictures of Jane one my pages(site).Also i knew Ruthie,Marie and there parents,when they lived in Springvalley.Al Baisley a cousin of my Stepfather Isaac Baisley(Buster).My Uncle Ira Call married Elsie Baisley,have them on my site also...Baisley (Cathrine?married moms first husband Herbert B Jenkins.....They were of Stony Point.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/820.1151.1 Message Board Post: First Ira Call is my Uncle,brother of my mother.I To knew Willis and Jenny,and the younger children.Such as Dianne,Lillian,Art,Alex.Im working on pages on all the families.Would love to add pictures of Willis and Jenny.(Cousins of mine).My stepfather Isaac Baisley(Buster)of the Sandyfields.He raised me.I also knew Ruthie and Marie Baisley,When they lived in Springvalley.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/820.1150.1 Message Board Post: I Know you know Linda Call and Frankie Cifuni.I am there cousin. I am of The Call family.

The upcoming meeting for the Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) will be held at The Kent Public Library, 17 Sybil’s Crossing, Kent Lakes, NY. Tel.: 845-225-8585. Here are the directions to the library: From Westchester - Take route 684 onto route 84 (west – towards Newburgh). On I-84, take exit 18 From Interstate 84, using Exit 18 (Lake Carmel exit): Take exit 18 off of 84 and travel south/west on Route 311. At end of 311, turn right onto Route 52 west. Travel approximately 1&3/4 miles on Route 52 until you see the entrance for the Kent Town Center on your right. Turn into the Kent Town Center (Sybil's Crossing), drive up the boulevard, turn right onto the circle, and park at the first building. Entrance to the library is around the front of the building. From Interstate 84, using Exit 17 (Ludingtonville Rd.): Take exit 17 off of 84 and travel south/west on Ludingtonville Road to Route 52. At intersection of Route 52, turn left and travel east on Route 52. Kent Town Center (Sybil's Crossing) in one mile past the Kent Elementary and Kent Primary Schools and is a left hand turn off of Route 52. (Follow directions at top from Sybil's Crossing). From Route 311 and the Patterson area, take 311 south/west and follow the first set of directions. From Lake Carmel, and Town of Carmel areas: Travel west on route 52 and follow the first set of directions. From the northern/western part of Kent, Holmes, and Stormville: Travel east on Route 52, one mile past the Kent Elementary and Kent Primary Schools, and turn left into the Kent Town Center. (Follow directions at top from Sybil's Crossing). The meeting will begin at 10:00 a.m. WCGS’ guest speaker will be Allan J. Warnecke, who will discuss Putnam County History. Mr. Warnecke retired from IBM in 1987 after a career as a research chemist. He has been a part-time teacher at Mahopac High School (1988-1999); Town of Carmel Historian (1996-2003) and is currently the Putnam County Historian. Hope you can come on Saturday! For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/ RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS Future Meetings: Jun 10, 2006 – The Story of the Old Croton Aqueduct by Robert Kornfeld, Jr.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2016.2.1.2 Message Board Post: Have you tried searching the NJ State Archives for the death record? This may contain info about her parents. You can send a search request in by filling out a form at http://www.njarchives.org/links/pdf/vsrequest.pdf

Hi Pat, There is also a GOBEL Road, in New City. The family property (old sandstone farmhouse) was sold and subdivided, (about 10 years ago) with about half a dozen houses built on it. This GOBEL Family owned a Veterinary practice in New City, NY. The son is the manager (or superintendant) of the Mount Olivet Cemetery, in Queens Co, NY. Bob Protzmann ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Wardell <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2006 2:20 pm Subject: [NYROCKLA] CALL from Ramapo perhaps; and GOBEL, GEBEL, etc. > Interesting to see the name Gobel -- > > Here's a few bits and pieces and alternate spellings of the name -- > > Goble, Bartholomew > Bartholomew Goble > He is likely the "Bartle Goble" listed in the Franklin > Township Rateables for 1778 and Jan-Feb 1779 ("Bertholomew Goble") > as > a householder. > "New Jersey Rateables: Franklin Township 1778 & 1779" in > Genealogical > Magazine of New Jersey, Jan 1966, p. 29 > > [Pat's note: the name Bartholonew is interesting since it also > pops > up in the Call family.] > > Goble, John > John Goble > He is likely the "John Goble" listed in the Franklin Township > Rateables for 1778 and Jan-Feb 1779 as a householder. > "New Jersey Rateables: Franklin Township 1778 & 1779" in > Genealogical > Magazine of New Jersey, Jan 1966, p. 22 > > Gable, Hans Jury (Hanss Gorg Gebel1) > Hans George Gable (Gebel) m. Ophelia (Ofilea) > Hanss Gorg Gebel and wife Ofilea wit. the bp. 2 Aug 1761 > Ramapo Lutheran Church, of Wilham Ekhard's dau. Elizabeth (b. 19 > July > 1761). > ---Sources: > [1] "Ramapo Lutheran Church Records, 1750-1817" in Proceedings of > the > New Jersey Historical Society, Vol. VIII, No. 1 (April 1913 > From The Minutes of the Board of Proprietors of the Eastern > Division > of New Jersey from 1725 to 1744, Perth Amboy (Re: Ramapo Tract; > paraphrased unless in quotes) > (Vol. III, p. 403, chart)...19 August 1763...Board executed > lease at Romopock to Simon Hawse & Hans Jury Gable, lot no. 25, > 208 > acres at 42 s, 9 August 1763. > > Gable, Hans Georg, Jr. (Gebel1) > Hans George Gable, Jr. > Hans George Gebel Junior and Elizabeth Gebel wit. bp. 14 > April 1765 Ramapo Lutheran Church, of Elizabeth, dau. of Jost Miller.1 > ---Sources: > [1] "Ramapo Lutheran Church Records, 1750-1817" in Proceedings of > the > New Jersey Historical Society, Vol. VIII, No. 1 (April 1913), p. 12 > > > Gable Women: > Dortie Gable m. George Dill; they had a ch., Maria, bp. 27 July > 1794 > Paramus Ref Ch > > Pat > > -- > Pat & Walter Wardell > Englewood, FL > [email protected] > > > ==== NYROCKLA Mailing List ==== > Visit the Rockland Co. NY GenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrockla/ > >