trying to locate the above person. His father was Leland Pierson, WW II vetean who died, buried in Airmont Lutheran Cemetery. He has no grave marker. If I can locate the son, perhaps he could get a marker from the VA. Last address for Eugene was Stage St. Suffern, NY. M. Monks, cousin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2053.1 Message Board Post: Have you checked the Genealogy of the De Noyelles family written by Dan De Noyelles back in the l980's or around there named "Within these Gates"? It is probably at the Rockland County Genealogical Society or the Haverstraw library.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2063 Message Board Post: Searching in Rockland County for a John smith who married a Sinor or Sarah. They had son Garritt Smith b. 3 Dec. l788 d. l5 May l876 who married elizabeth Hedges dau. of Peter Hedges of Naomi Terry. This couple lived in Orange county but possibly Smith origins were in Rockland County. Will share info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2062 Message Board Post: I am seeking information on the ancestors of Lambert A. Smith, b. ~1800, married Margaret Vanderbilt, b. ~1798. I've documented that Smith and his descendants resided in Rockland County from 1840 to 1930. Lambert's two sons and two daughters were christened in Reformed Dutch Church, Clarkstown Township. Thanks for any assistance. Ed Rigel, Sr. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/1938.2.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Ann, of the nineteen children there is a Susanna (12 January 1832 — 20 March 1874) but I have no further information about her, in other words no information on a spouse or children. Susanna was the 15th child born and the fourth daughter. I also have no information about where she was born but do know that the last three children born to Enoch Rose and Susanna Green were born in Paterson NJ and their youngest daughter, Abigail Jane, was married in Paterson in 1853. And while Enoch died in Sloatsburg NY 12 May 1858, Susanna Green died 20 March 1874 in Paterson. That's all I can offer you on this particular Susanna.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rose, Lane, Call Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/1938.2.1.2 Message Board Post: I saw your message (March 2005) about Enoch Rose and his 19 children and wonder if my great grandmother Susan Amanda Rose might be one of the 19. For most of her life, she was called Amanda, but the 1850 census lists her as Susan. She married John Lane and raised her family in Haverstraw, NY. The Lanes (or possibly the Roses) lived in Sandyfields at some point before 1850 and that area is close to Southfields. So, I am hoping for a connection. If you have any information for me, please let me know. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/23.837.852.854.855.860.1064.2 Message Board Post: Hi, David I am tracing my family of Davenports, namely one Humphrey Davenport, born abt 1767, married Lucretia, sons John (1801) and Cornelius (1803) born in New Jersey, and Rachel (1811) and Abram (1818) born in Ontario Co. NY. Your posting caught my eye because I am looking at Peter Alley's father John as possibly related to my Humphrey. Humphrey bought land in 1806 in Ontario Co. from Gerrit Vanderhoof (NJ) and was closely associated with Jacob Cole Jr and Benjamin Cole, later migrating with Benjamin Cole and his family to Washtenaw/ Lenawee Cos in Michigan around 1834. Humphrey's son John ran a hotel in MI named the Davenport hotel and later Harmon House. I have been trying to locate the parents of Humphrey and track down Lucretia (reportedly born in NY), whose maiden name is unknown. Any light you can shed on this family would be appreciated. Debbie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sproch, Sprock Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2061 Message Board Post: I'm trying to find out how to obtain a birth certificates for Elizabeth M Sproch b: 25 Oct 1886 and her sister, Anna Sproch b: 07 Mar 1889 and brother, John Bernard Sproch b: 15 May 1891. All three were born in Haverstraw, Rockland County, NY. Spelling could also be Sprock. Does anyone know how I can find these documents? Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Manoly-Beiersdorf-Allen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2060 Message Board Post: looking for any information on a Frances Manoly who married Frederick Beiersdorf sometime around 1925 had a daughter Ann, born in Richmond Virginia in 1936. Frances lived for awhile in the Rockville,Maryland and later settled in Texas. Frederick died in 1968 and I believe Frances remarried and her last name is Allen. looking to see if still alive and living in the Dallas area.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Call,Pitt,Youmans,Babcock,Odell. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2016.2.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Samuel Call and Nelly Babcock Call are my greatgrandparentsThere daughter Charlotte Call-who-married a David Odell (is a sister of my greatgrandfather Hiram Call.Charlotte would be an Aunt of my mothers.She also had a sister supposely who married a Odell (Margaret)? among other brother's and sister's.Mom married Isaac Baisley the son of Lucy Odell-who-married Nathaniel Baisley.Mom and Isaac always said they were cousin's in some way.I have heard stories that Maggy's mother had drowned,but i don't know for sure.But i also have read that.Hiram Call son of Samuel and Nelly is my mothers grandfather.(Rockland Co.) Could it be the same family lines you mentioned.(Odelle,Odell,O'dell).Thankyou for any info you may have on the family.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2016.2.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Samuel Call and Nelly Babcock Call are my gggg-grandparents. Charlotte(Call) Odell,m. David Odell are my ggg-grandparents. I have recently discovered an Odell family album, filled with many old pictures, but have no idea who many of the people are. It was always rumored that the Call family had Native American blood lines, but that was never documented. I have very old pictures of an unidentified woman who appears to be Native American. Can anyone give me information about this family? It says that Charlotte Odell took care of Maggy, her niece, after Maggy, the mother drowned? Is there some place for me to find this information? Any help would be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Odell, Babcock, Rhoades Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/1902.1.1 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of David and Charlotte Odell, who had a daughter named Lucy, b. approx. 1865, listed as 5 years old in the 1870 Rockland County Census. The family lived in the general area of Rockland/Orange County, sometimes Havestraw and sometimes in the Cornwall area, probably places in between. Could this be your step-grandmother? This has been a difficult thread to follow. There is also a Lucy (grandaughter) of David and Charlotte Odell, listed in the 1900 census, b. 1877. Any information you can give me would be most helpful.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2059 Message Board Post: On August 5, 2006 the Haines Family Association will sponsor a one day workshop in Haines Falls, NY on locating, cleaning up and repairing old cemeteries. The morning session will be lecture and discussion. The afternoon will be spent in a local cemetery doing a little hands on practice. Even if you never do the work, you should attend. Someday you may need to hire someone to do this sort of work and you should know how to do it right. PRE REGISTRATION REQUIRED Call Bill Haines (718) 225-9024 or E-mail [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Iserman, Weymer, Wilson,Everman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/915.927.967.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Carol. I don't know names of any other children besides Catherine. What I know (assume) comes from a family letter dated August 21, 1916. Wilson Geneology. It follows: "I am writing this from what I know personally and what I heard my Father and Mother say many years ago. My Father, John J. Wilson, was born in Monroe Township, Orange County, New York, April 5, 1793. And my Mother, Catherine Weymer, was born same town and county on August 25, 1800. Their parents lived three miles apart. My father's father was Scott's Irish born and lived in Belfast, Ireland till ten years old. His parents came to America and settled in Orange County, New York. There he learned Blacksmithing. He always worked at that business. He was a very staunch Methodist. A very quiet, conservative man. My mother said one of the nicest, kindest of men. My father's mother was Charity Everman. Her father was a Sadler and Harness maker and lived in Goshen, N.Y. My mother was German and French nationality. Her father came to America when 21 years old. He was born & raised in Whittenburg, Germany (the birth place of Martin Luther). His name was Jacob Weymer and he was a farmer. Her mother's name was Sarah Izerman-her father was a leather dealer-had a leather and shoe store in New York City. My mother's mother was a great niece to the DeHaven brothers who loaned the money to General Washington that has caused so much talk and contention for so many years. The DeHavens were French nationality and a wealthy people. Two of the brothers were Foundry men and one was a farmer. The two oldest men did business in Goshen, New York and Philadelphia. Three of the Weymers originally were factory and farm people. The wilsons, my fathers brothers, one was a farmer; and one was a sea captain, and was shipwrecked between New York & London; one was a clothing merchant in New York; and my father was a charcoal burner. My father's and mother's people all lived in and around New York and Goshen and Philadelphia. And there are many of them there yet. My father and mother married in Goshen, Orange County, New York, October 18, 1821, and always lived near there until they moved to Shelby County, Ohio in March 1938. They lived in Ohio ten years. On February 6, 1848, they moved to Kendall County, Illinois, where they spent the remainder of their days on the old Home farm on the Ottawa Road, two and one half miles east of Plattville. My parents had ten children when they left Orange County, New York. There were three born in Ohio and one in Kendall County, Illinois." I don't know if this helps with the Weymers. I hope it wasn't too long to post on this message board. The letter goes on to list the 14 children, birth and marriage dates. I can email those if you'd like, or post if it's ok. Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Iserman, Weymer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/915.927.967.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Donna. I am descended from Sarah's husband's brother George Weymer and am casting about for info so I can place the "unconnected" Weymers of Orange and Rockland counties into our family tree. Do you have names of Jacob and Sarah Iserman Weymer's other children besides Catherine? From early census records they appear to have had 3-4 sons and perhaps 1 other daughter. I'd like to get what you have on Sarah's descendants--at least the 1st couple of generations so I can see if they help answer any of my Weymer questions. In return, I'm able to share quite a bit of info on the ancestry of Jacob Weymer if you're interested.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Iserman, Weymer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/915.927.967.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info, Lynne. I've since had the chance to review David Cole's book mentioned in your post. I don't have Iserman ancestry myself, I'm just spreading a wide net trying to identify and place family members of Sarah's husband Jacob Weymer. Jacob's brother George is my ancestor. Do you have names of any of Sarah Iserman and Jacob Weymer's children? The only one I've identified so far is Catherine who married John J. Wilson.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/357.447.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your analysis. Hopefully within a few years Y-DNA analysis of descendants of the various branches will help shed more light on this. --Bruce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/357.447.1.1 Message Board Post: Bruce: Just wondered what evidence and documentation you may have to prove that Adolphus "b. 1699 NYC" was a son of Olvert Shuart/Sjoert/etc. and Margaret Cloppers as per Pat Wardell in 1995. I have not yet found a single shred, other than similarities in the many spellings of the surnames that attach to both individuals. It appears to me that someone along the way just pasted the name of Adolphus into the progeny of Olvert and Margaret, and the attribution has been repeated endlessly ever since. I haven't yet seen the original record, but other sources point out that Adolphus was married on or about 23 October 1719 to Margaret Geerlingh (nee' Ecker?) in New Jersey, and that the marriage record itself states that Adolphus was born in "Pruymes" in Germany, not NYC. Nevertheless, some have continued to justify the appearance of this Adolphus in the lineage of Olvert by simply claiming, without any evidence I can find, that Olvert was on a sea voyage to Germany with his wi! fe and that she gave birth to Adolphus there. So here we have Olvert's wife, who had baptized Ytie on 3 July 1698 in the NY Reformed Church, going on a difficult months-long trans-Atlantic sea voyage with her husband within months of her last pregnancy, enduring yet another 9 months or less of another pregnancy to give birth to Adolphus in Germany the following year, becoming pregnant again just in time to have Johannis born and then baptized in NYC on 6 April 1701. Seems far-fetched to me, especially when we see the regular pattern of the baptisms of all of Olvert's other children before and after Adolphus in the NYCRefCh records separated by intervals of about 3 years or more. Also, Olvert Shuart left a will in NYC in 1710, but does not mention son named Adophus among his heirs, nor have I ever seen Adolphus mentioned among any of the NYC records or any records associated with Olvert and Margaret. Unless someone can provide solid evidence to the contrary, I think we ! need to separate Adophus from the lineage of Olvert and Margaret, and work with the only evidence we have, i.e. that Adolphus was a separate immigrant deriving from a family living in or near Germany. I do agree that the Dutch name of Olvert Sjourt/Syourt/etc. became known as "Shuart" among some of his descendants and that these descendants can be traced to Olvert, but the Shuart's deriving from Adolphus Shurte/Shuart/etc. must be considered as a separate lineage for now. - Rich

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KEARNEY (CARNEY) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2058.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you sooooooooooooooooo much. That was so kind of you to share this information. Elizabeth Kearney-Reilly was married 23 Apr 1873 at St. Peter's Church, Haverstraw. The name used to be written as Carney - you will find them in the 1855 Rockland Co., Census. I have some more information on the Kearney's. If you are interested in it, let me know. Thanks again. Christina

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kearney Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2058.1 Message Board Post: My grandmother's sister Sarah Hannigan was married to James Kearney born 1863 to Michael and Mary Kearney. here is an obituary of his sister. Mrs. Michael Reilly 12/7/1929 Rockland County Times Mrs. Elizabeth, widow of the late Michael Reilly, passed away at her home in SP Sunday morning after a long illness. Mrs. Reily had been confined to her bed for the past eleven weeks with infirmities due to old age. Mrs. Reilly was born in Tomkings Cove about 76 years ago the daughter of Mr and Mrs Michael Kearney, and lived there until her marriage to Mr Reilly 55 years ago when she went to SP to live as a birde and has since lived there. Her husband predeceased her by about nine years. Of that union ten children were born of whom seven are living They are three daughters, Mrs. John Brophy, Miss Julia Reilly and Mrs James Clancy of Stony Point and four sons James P of Hav, Michael and Thomas of SP and John Reilly of West Hav. A sister, Mrs James Clark, of Stony Point and a brother Mr James Kearney of Beacon also survive her as does a nephew John Fowler of Rochester, NY who was legally adopted as a son some years ago.