This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seitzman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/3361 Message Board Post: Please have Arthur Seitzman call: (954) 434-5783

Original message: Am seeking information on their children, especially daughter Susanna b. abt 1832 and a possible marriage connection to Abraham (also in records as Abr'm and Abram) Wanamaker (Wanmaker). Susanna was possibly baptized at Airmont Lutheran Church in Ramapo, NY or Zion Lutheran Church in Saddle River, NJ and most likely married at one of these churches before or about 1850. If my suspicions are correct, she would have married in late September or early October of 1850. Any help will be greatly appreciated. ============================ 1. John J MAY, son of Jacob May and Susan Straut, was born 10 Jul 1811 [gravestone date]. He died 16 Aug 1896 [WILL-Rockland Co. W-427] and was buried in Airmont Lutheran Cem, Suffern, NY. John married (1) Hannah W VALENTINE, daughter of William J VALENTINE and Marya DEBAUN, on 12 Mar 1831 in Saddle River DRCh. [USR:18]. Hannah was born 22 Jun 1814 [gravestone date]. She died 13 Apr 1874 and was buried in Airmont Luth Cemetery, Suffern, NY. John May, of Ramapo, left a will dated 7 Jan 1896 and proved 24 Sept 1896 mentioning his wife Christianna May. Daniel S Wanamaker, my son-in-law. Two heirs of my Dau Susan [dec'd] who was the wife of Abram Wanamaker. Heirs of my son William May [dec'd], five in number. Dau Catherine, wife of Daniel S Wanamaker. Executor: son-in-law Daniel S Wanamaker Filed: New City [Liber W-427] They had the following children: 2 F i. Susanna J MAY was born 10 Oct 1832 and was baptized 30 Jan 1833 in Saddle River Lutheran Church [Zion:41]. She died 15 Dec 1879 [aged: 47.2.5] and was buried in Airmont Luth Cemetery [Budke #11282]. Susanna married Abraham L WANAMAKER, son of Lawrence A WANAMAKER and Annaatje P PULIS. Abraham was born 15 Nov 1826 in [calculated date]. He died 3 Mar 1879 [aged: 52.3.18] and was buried in Airmont Lutheran Cemetery [Budke #11281]. 3 M ii. William Valentine MAY was born 7 Mar 1836 and was baptized 18 Feb 1837 in Saddle River Lutheran Church [Zion:43]. He died 18 Aug 1886 and was buried in Airmont Lutheran Cemetery w/parents. William married Mary WANAMAKER on 1 Oct 1870 in Airmont Lutheran Church by Rev.DeYoe. 4 F iii. Mary Elizabeth MAY was born 4 Nov 1838 and was baptized 3 Apr 1839 in Saddle River Lutheran Church (Zion:45]. She died 19 Nov 1843 [aged: 5.0.15] and was buried in Ramapo DRChyd. Mahwah [Budke #5129]. 5 F iv. Caroline J MAY was born 8 Apr 1841 and was baptized 27 Nov 1841 in Saddle River Lutheran Church [Zion:48]. She died 2 Dec 1843 [aged: 2.7.24] and was buried in Ramapo DRChyd. Mahwah [Budke #5130]. 6 M v. Jacob Henry MAY was born 6 Feb 1846 and was baptized 2 May 1846 in Saddle River Lutheran Church [Zion:55]. He died 18 Sep 1846 [aged: 0.7.12] and was buried in Ramapo DRChyd. Mahwah [Budke #5128]. 7 F vi. Catherine Anne MAY was born 1 Oct 1847 and was baptized 23 Jul 1848 in Saddle River Lutheran Church [Zion:57]. She died 1921. Catherine married Daniel Seth WANAMAKER on 21 Apr 1866 in Airmont Lutheran Church by Rev.DeYoe. Daniel was born 8 Jun 1844. He died 1914. John May also married (2) Christina J ACKERMAN, daughter of Johannis A ACKERMAN and Maria H TERHUNE, on 12 Sep 1878 in Airmont Lutheran Church, Suffern, NY. Christina was born about 1819. She died 16 Jun 1907. Ethel Kay Konight ================================== Original Message: Surnames: MAY, VALENTINE, WANAMAKER, WANMAKER Message Board Post: Am seeking information on their children, especially daughter Susanna b. abt 1832 and a possible marriage connection to Abraham (also in records as Abr'm and Abram) Wanamaker (Wanmaker). Susanna was possibly baptized at Airmont Lutheran Church in Ramapo, NY or Zion Lutheran Church in Saddle River, NJ and most likely married at one of these churches before or about 1850. If my suspicions are correct, she would have married in late September or early October of 1850. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Here's what I have for this couple (I would appreciate any additions, corrections, etc.) -- ------------------------- John May, son of -?-, m. 12 March 1831 Saddle River Ref Ch, Hannah Valentine, dau. of -?-. ---children of John May & Hannah Valentine: * Susanna May, b. 10 Oct 1832; bp. 30 Jan 1833 Saddle River Luth Ch * William Valentine May, b. 7 Mar 1836; bp. 18 Feb 1837 Saddle River Luth Ch * Mary Elizabeth May, b. 4 Nov 1838; bp. 3 Apr 1839 Saddle River Luth Ch * Caroline May, b. 8 Apr, bp. 27 Nov 1841 Saddle River Luth Ch * (poss) Catherine Ann May, b. 1 Oct 1847 Ramapo, Rockland Co. ---Sources: Saddle River Lutheran Baptisms; 1855 NY State Census, Rockland Co., Town of Ramapo, 2nd ED (microfilm also contains Town of Ramapo births for 1847; Saddle River Reformed Church (Upper Saddle River, Bergen Co., NJ) Records, including gravestones inscriptions from the adjacent chyd (typescript)) ---------------------- Do you have additional information on this family? Tanks. Pat >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: MAY, VALENTINE, WANAMAKER, WANMAKER >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/3360 > >Message Board Post: > >Am seeking information on their children, especially daughter >Susanna b. abt 1832 and a possible marriage connection to Abraham >(also in records as Abr'm and Abram) Wanamaker (Wanmaker). Susanna >was possibly baptized at Airmont Lutheran Church in Ramapo, NY or >Zion Lutheran Church in Saddle River, NJ and most likely married at >one of these churches before or about 1850. If my suspicions are >correct, she would have married in late September or early October >of 1850. Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe [email protected] from the list, please send an >email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Pat & Walter Wardell Englewood, FL [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MAY, VALENTINE, WANAMAKER, WANMAKER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/3360 Message Board Post: Am seeking information on their children, especially daughter Susanna b. abt 1832 and a possible marriage connection to Abraham (also in records as Abr'm and Abram) Wanamaker (Wanmaker). Susanna was possibly baptized at Airmont Lutheran Church in Ramapo, NY or Zion Lutheran Church in Saddle River, NJ and most likely married at one of these churches before or about 1850. If my suspicions are correct, she would have married in late September or early October of 1850. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1.1.1.2.2 Message Board Post: Hi Regina, My span of interest in Rockland Co/Haverstraw goes from 1720 when John Allison arrived there from Long Island until 1800 when his grandson John m. Sarah DeNoyelles,(my direct ancestors) moved to Monroe in Orange Co. Have done extensive research during this period . My book, "Mayers Allison Family History" is in the New City Library. Good hunting, Bob Mayers

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Did I say the men in the Revolution were Peter,william,Albert, Hedges Possible father is Sylvanus Hedges.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I corressponded with Dan De Noyelles for many years starting in l986. I also have a Ver Veelan (Ver Valen,Valin) in my ancestry back to before the Revolutionary War. In Haverstraw I found an ancester Thomas Mackeyb. l805 who is my ancester and who came from Marlboro,through Sugar Loaf,or Warwick ,Orange County and whose death certificate shows father asGeorge. There was one in Milton but the other was a Jurian meaning George so I am stuck and have been for years. Are you in Orange County? I am trying to find 5 men and a father who served in the Rev. War from either Shawangunk or Warwick,Orange County.Three are Albert,William,Peter and possibly the father might be Sylvanus. Arlene Thanks for the info. all the Mackeys in Haverstraw and the Mackey brickyards in Verplanck are all the same family and descend from two brothers.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: DeNoyelles' genealogy book "Birth of an American Family" is available in most of the county libraries, but for in-house use only. "Within These Gates" says about the "fabulous clay deposits along the west shore" that they were used in manufacturing brick in 1773, but the big venture began with the arrival in 1815 to South Haverstraw of James Wood, an Englishman with brickmaking knowledge. In 1852 Richard A. VerValen invented an improved brick machine and "North Rockland was off to 75 years of full employment and prosperity." Talking about marching bands, DeNoyelles says that the ranks of the West Haverstraw Fife and Drum Corps were led by the tallest man, high-hatted in a big bearskin. "James H. Mackey of Garnerville guided its martial strains for some years, about twenty, with his ramrod over-six-feet frame and his regal baton." In his list of brickyards, he notes a Mackey yard in Haverstraw in 1839; Mackey Yards in Verplanck in 1904; and several other Mackey names - Silas G. in Grassy Point in 1872, Daniel G. in Grassy Point in 1863; and W. H. in Verplanck in 1899. So the Mackey family was indeed connected with the brick industry for an exceptionally long period of time. The other very early names (in addition to James Wood) were Clark and Fowler, Drury, and Allison.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mackey,Ward Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: will keep your info on file.

The index to Within These Gates does not show any Harings or McCleods, but there are five "Jersey" notations in the index. The first, on page 115, is from the Rockland County Messenger (newspaper) on Feb. 8, 1866, in an exceptionally cold winter. "The travel to New York is by Mr. Jersey's sleigh over the ice to Croton across the frozen Hudson River. This is nearly four miles, which he runs in a half an hour. He makes four trips per day from the American Hotel........." On page 120 and 132, references to Frank E. Jersey, tugboat captain (the tugs towed the barges full of bricks to the city). He was captain of the tug "Mable", and dates of 1908 and 1930 are mentioned. On page 171, a reference to stable boss "Seward 'Sue' Jersey, a man wondrous with the ways of horses" (the original boy named Sue? - sorry, couldn't resist!) Page 185, a picture of the ship the Commodore, 1905 - an Edward Jersey is identified. The picture is too small to recognize a face, but at the Brick Museum they just might have the full sized picture. Many interesting anecdotes in this book - it's available from the Brick Museum in Haverstraw, and I'm pretty sure it's less than $20. Regina Haring Nanuet, NY http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan " <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Peter or George B De Noyelles b. abt. 1817 > Any mention of Jersey, McLeod or Haring in that brickmaking book? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Peter or George B De Noyelles b. abt. 1817 > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Haring, Rabatin > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Bob, the book "Within These Gates" tells the story of the brickmaking > industry in Haverstraw and environs. It doesn't contain genealogical > information. On page 7 there is mention of James Wood, an Englishman with > brickmaking experience, who leased land from John and Peter deNoyelles, > sons > of the late assemblyman John deNoyelles who died in 1775, but that's > pretty > much it. > > However if I had deNoyelles ancestors I would want to own this book, which > is available very reasonably from the Haverstraw Brick Museum. The > Allisons > were also a brickmaking family, and the book contains a photo of "the > Allison family with others in Stony Point ca. 1890." > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/555 - Release Date: > 11/27/2006 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dan's genealogy is in his book from the 1970s "Birth of an American Family" I have this but my Sarah Denoyelles Allison is not inhere. I, looking for other data on the family to find her. I'm thinking she may have been a young De Noyelles widow when she married m John allison. She may have had a daughter, Elizabeth Hofmann. Will keep my eye out fot the Mackeys. Bob Mayers

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Did you get my message that Dan De Noyelles did write a genealogy and it probably is at the rockland county genealogical society. He had mentioned it to me when he was writing it but after so many years confused it with his book "Within These Gates. If you run across any info on any george or Jurian Mackeys in the l700's or early l800's either in Orange or Rockland please let me know. They were also in the brick business. They came from Marlboro and Milton area. thanks arlene

Any mention of Jersey, McLeod or Haring in that brickmaking book? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Peter or George B De Noyelles b. abt. 1817 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Haring, Rabatin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Bob, the book "Within These Gates" tells the story of the brickmaking industry in Haverstraw and environs. It doesn't contain genealogical information. On page 7 there is mention of James Wood, an Englishman with brickmaking experience, who leased land from John and Peter deNoyelles, sons of the late assemblyman John deNoyelles who died in 1775, but that's pretty much it. However if I had deNoyelles ancestors I would want to own this book, which is available very reasonably from the Haverstraw Brick Museum. The Allisons were also a brickmaking family, and the book contains a photo of "the Allison family with others in Stony Point ca. 1890." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Regina, Thanks, Since my Allisons moved from Haverstraw to Monroe in 1800, I have done much in Rockland after that time. An Interesting note: "A piece of parchment containing a list of militia officers of Orange Co. of 1763 was converted into covers for binding a school copy book belonging to Mary Haring who wrote her name on it. In trimming the Sheepskin to suit her purpose she very nearly destroyed the record." My 4thGGrandfather Captain Joseph Allison is on the list as is First Lieut Abraham A. Haring Jr and Jan J. Haring. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/3355 Message Board Post: Dan also wrote a genealogy of the De NOyelles family which is at the rockland county genealogical society. I mixed up the book about genealogy and the one called within these gates. arlene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Haring, Rabatin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Bob, the book "Within These Gates" tells the story of the brickmaking industry in Haverstraw and environs. It doesn't contain genealogical information. On page 7 there is mention of James Wood, an Englishman with brickmaking experience, who leased land from John and Peter deNoyelles, sons of the late assemblyman John deNoyelles who died in 1775, but that's pretty much it. However if I had deNoyelles ancestors I would want to own this book, which is available very reasonably from the Haverstraw Brick Museum. The Allisons were also a brickmaking family, and the book contains a photo of "the Allison family with others in Stony Point ca. 1890."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YUB.2ACI/2053.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Arlene, I havent seen "Within These Gates" by Dan de Noyelles. Does it have any gen. data that is not found in Dan's first book "Birth of an American Family"?. I'm seaching for my 3rd GGmother Sarah DeNoyelles b. abt 1751 who maried John Allison in abt 1778. The two families had adjacent farms on Grassy point, Haverstraw but can't link her to DeNoyelles family. Appreciate your advice, [email protected]

Hello I see you are asking about the Becraft Family. My grandmother was a Becraft she descended from the Becrafts from New York Peter Becraft born about 1798 Berne Dam, Albany Co. New York, died Feb 17 1849 Morehouseville, Hamilton County, New York. I have checked my information but I don't have any John Becraft born in 1800. But I do have several John Becrafts in our family line. JoAnn

Hi. Start looking for him in the Castle Garden NY records. 1800-1882 is in the time frame for those. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 1:00 AM Subject: NYROCKLA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 30 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Werrell ([email protected]) > 2. Re: Becrafts of Rockland, NY ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: 26 Nov 2006 07:43:37 -0700 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [NYROCKLA] Werrell > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Werrell > Classification: Immigration > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/3354 > > Message Board Post: > > Can anyone help me with the date of immigration for the Werrell family? > My best information thus far indicates they immigrated from Karlsruhe, > Germany between 1880-1882. Jacob Werrell became a naturalized US citizen > 12 February 1894 at the Rockland County Court. I am also interested in > locating descendants. Thanks for your help! > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: 26 Nov 2006 16:25:04 -0700 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYROCKLA] Becrafts of Rockland, NY > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/1908.2 > > Message Board Post: > > David - I have been looking at old Rockland County messages. I gather you > are interested in the Becrafts - John and Cornelia. I also have been > looking for mare information on them. I know that John was born Sept. 9, > 1800 and died Feb. 9, 1885. He married Cornelia Barbarow daughter of > Casparus Barbarow and Maria Wanamaker. She was born about 1801 and died > about 1868. Do you have further information now? Does this help? > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYROCKLA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYROCKLA mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYROCKLA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 30 > ***************************************

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YUB.2ACI/1908.2 Message Board Post: David - I have been looking at old Rockland County messages. I gather you are interested in the Becrafts - John and Cornelia. I also have been looking for mare information on them. I know that John was born Sept. 9, 1800 and died Feb. 9, 1885. He married Cornelia Barbarow daughter of Casparus Barbarow and Maria Wanamaker. She was born about 1801 and died about 1868. Do you have further information now? Does this help?