Cliff and all, YES the YDNA we did for our family proved a match. Not recent but back to 1760's. We also did a larger than 12 marker test. It proved my research was same as what one of my distant cousins had done. No it does not always work, for up close and personal kin. I am looking now of doing a special one with some cousins on one name. WE have a very unusual YDNA in that line and am curious how it will read out. If we do this it will be late fall. I will be glad to share what I have learned. I also had surprise surprise MTDNA match happen with a total stranger that had posted their tree on the system we share the same Ancestor Mary Ann Lee in Virginia.That about blue my socks off. Then I had to learn how I was related to this person. They are from a sibling of my direct line, which I knew nothing about. It is no guarantee you will find kin but then sometiimes surprises happen, They will tell you unless you do a large marker test seldom do you get more than 5,000 to 10,000 years ago data. I did the one on a 28 marker. I am wanting to know if two brothers do YDNA will they show up as match. I think that is what people are looking for. I also think you have to make sure you use a reliable company not that they probably all are. I do use Ftdna and my Sweet cousin used them and found a match also. Susi ************** Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)