I have a question about B Cs. If in civil court records B Cs weren't required until 1881 would church records be the place to look for Baptismal Records giving the date of birth? When did the city of Troy require the recording of birth? The time frame I am interested in is the 1840s. Emily Brothers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lamere" <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: <nyrensse@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [NYRENSSE] GOEWEY b. Greenbush, NY > Outside of New York City, birth certificates were required for each > birth in the state beginning in 1881. The original handwritten > certificates had to be sent to the state. The cities of Albany, Buffalo > and Yonkers were not required to begin sending theirs to the state until > 1914, but that is because they had their own rules in place before > 1881. Despite the requirement, some doctors and midwives did not report > some of the births, so no certificate was issued for those births. > > Even though the index may have said Freestville, it was named after a > DeFreest family. Today it is called Defreestville. The Defreetsville > spelling in the record of Eleanor Goewey is a typo. > > Pokeepsie is now spelled Poughkeepsie. The -gh- is not pronounced, so > the earlier spellings included Pokeepsie, but probably not as official > spellings. For people who are not local, I have only heard it > pronounced Po-KIP-see. > > One note of caution. In the index, I have seen G'ville a few times. > Gloversville (Fulton Co.) is a city, so it is the location most likely > meant by such an abbreviation, but I know of one occasion where it meant > Glenville (Town of) in Schenectady Co. which is quite a bit closer to > Rensselaer Co. In my own study of a single surname, I have noticed that > some of the people did move from Rensselaer Co. to Schenectady Co. or > vice versa. If the index said G'ville, try to confirm Gloversville with > another piece of information. > > Cliff > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Janice J. wrote: > >>The birth, death and marriage certificate index starts in 1881. >> >>Mabel Goewey does not have a birth certificate. (These certificates were >>not required until 1912 so not every one had them). I did find that >>Mabel C. Goewey died age 67 on September 9, 1953 at the age of 67 in >>Pokeepsie, NY, certificate number 55862. >>* >>Hattie Goewey died in Gloversville, age 90, on 5/5/53. >>* >>Clarence A. Goewey married on August 19, 1919 in Freestville, NY 28748. >>Thanks to Rici for these lookups. >> >>-original message- >>Eleanor GOEWEY, my paternal grandmother, of Troy, Rensselaer Co., NY, >>was dau. of Franklin J. & Eleanor SHARP[E] GOEWEY and is buried Blooming >>Grove Cemetery, Defreetsville, Rensselaer Co., NY. >> >>Children of Frank J. GOEWEY & Eleanor M. SHARP[E] b. Troy, Rensselaer, >>NY >>a) Mabel GOEWEY >>b) Clarence A. GOEWEY m. 1919 Julia BORNT [1900-1987], >>c) Alice GOEWEY m. Dr. Samuel SAULPAUGH, >>d) Edith GOEWEY m. Dr. Frank HECKER, and >>e) Eleanor GOEWEY. >> >>Thank you, >>Janice Jordan <jnrose@webtv.net> >> >> >> >> >> > ====NY-RENSSE Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ > Add/check you Rensselaer County surnames on the surname registry at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/ > (under Links) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYRENSSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Emily, 1847 to 1850/51 was the only previous time period when births were required to be recorded. In that time period, it was school districts which were required to record births. Most of those records have been lost by now, but Rensselaer Co. had more preserved than for most counties. I don't know if Troy preserved such records. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Emily Brothers wrote: >I have a question about B Cs. If in civil court records B Cs weren't >required until 1881 would church records be the place to look for Baptismal >Records giving the date of birth? When did the city of Troy require the >recording of birth? The time frame I am interested in is the 1840s. >Emily Brothers > > >

Cliff, I was interested in your reply to Emily. I have been searching for a long time for a baptismal record for Marie Elodie Mailhot (Mayotte), born September 3, 1850, in Troy. (Parents might be Francois or Francis and Mary or Marie). I have had no luck with various churches in the area. Would you know how I could go about accessing these school district records to see if perhaps she is there? I live in Canada. Thank you, Bonnie >From: Cliff Lamere <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> >Reply-To: nyrensse@rootsweb.com >To: nyrensse@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYRENSSE] GOEWEY b. Greenbush, NY >Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:23:45 -0400 > >Emily, > >1847 to 1850/51 was the only previous time period when births were >required to be recorded. In that time period, it was school districts >which were required to record births. Most of those records have been >lost by now, but Rensselaer Co. had more preserved than for most >counties. I don't know if Troy preserved such records. > >Cliff > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Emily Brothers wrote: > > >I have a question about B Cs. If in civil court records B Cs weren't > >required until 1881 would church records be the place to look for >Baptismal > >Records giving the date of birth? When did the city of Troy require the > >recording of birth? The time frame I am interested in is the 1840s. > >Emily Brothers > > > > > > >====NY-RENSSE Mailing List==== >Check out the mailing list's website at: >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ >Add/check you Rensselaer County surnames on the surname registry at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/ >(under Links) >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYRENSSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonnie, I don't know if Troy ever collected them or preserved them. I can only suggest that you contact the Rensselaer Co. Historical Society and the Rensselaer County Clerk. Troy Public Library (main branch) has a genealogy room with microfilms of other censuses. Sorry that I can't be more helpful. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ L DUPUY wrote: >Cliff, > >I was interested in your reply to Emily. I have been searching for a long >time for a baptismal record for Marie Elodie Mailhot (Mayotte), born >September 3, 1850, in Troy. (Parents might be Francois or Francis and Mary >or Marie). I have had no luck with various churches in the area. Would >you know how I could go about accessing these school district records to see >if perhaps she is there? I live in Canada. > >Thank you, >Bonnie > > > > >