Pat sent me the following email and gave permission for me to forward it to the list with this statement: "I have no objection, however I do not want to start any debate between my opinion and Prof O'Dell, whom I feel answered in his own opinion of what he honestly felt happened. We do not all agree on these matters and yet there is merit in all of our opinions. If you think that this will not result in any major problem go ahead. Just that I do respect his opinion even though I do not totally agree with it. I just wanted to share what I felt was a different opinion of what happened. Sincerely, Pat" [I know that since I posted the answer to questions asked at the meeting held on April 20 that it seems logical to reply to me, but it would be much more useful, if anyone adding information would post directly to the list so everyone can get the benefit of the ideas of others. I think all viewpoints are welcome. Marie] This is Pat's email: Subj: Re: [Rensselaer] Rhode Island Families to Rensselaer County Date: 01-04-24 10:14:49 EDT From: PNUTREG@cs.com To: MHoff12140 Hi Marie Although some of Prof O'Dell's remarks could be of merit, I do not wholly agree with them. My Ancestor's fought in the Rev War with Van Rensselaer (and their Siblings) and lived in Rensselaer County since 1776 and of course it was Albany County NY at that time. (They came from RI). They also became constituent members of the Berlin NY Church. They purchased (did not rent Land) their farms and settled in the Berlin Area. Other family members had settled in the Dutchess County Area and later migrated to Rensselaer County. Also, many additional families moved there after the Rev. War. I think that as America was developing and new Lands because available it was a natural instinct for them to start migrating to new lands. There was also Rev War Land Grants that many were eligible for. After all their forefathers had come from the UK before them and migration was in their blood. Religious Groups did migrate together and so did families, although the entire family did not always come. In many cases you will find some remained behind. The Seventh Day Baptist which is a Sabbatarian Church started in Newport RI in 1671 and many of my Ancestral Families were Members and my heritage goes back to Samuel Hubbard and Tacy Cooper Hubbard the founders through their daughter Ruth who married a Burdick. The next church being in the Hopkinson Area of Westerly RI where there is still a Church today. In 1802 they established a missionary group to spread the word of the gospel and that was the reason for the big movement at that time into NYS. They also moved into Mystic CT. In 1821 - 1828 they established a missionary magazine at that time and formed even a more aggressive movement to spread the gospel. Thus began the westward movement into Western NYS, PA and Virginia and onward West. Many of my other Ancestral lines were Pastors, Deacons and Founders of the Church throughout RI, CT and NYS and than on Westward. I have been to a number of the Churches that still exist in NYS where I used to live and I am trying to put together the Congregation and Cemetery of an Abandoned Site in Upstate NY. My 2 X Gt Grandfather was a founder, along with his Parents, Brothers and Sisters and his brother in law who was the First Pastor formed this particular one that I am working on. But I have visited almost all the sites in NY and their cemeteries or burial grounds. In all my reading and researching I was never under the impression nor have I seen any documentation to indicate that they were not welcome in RI.(Where they still have a church today). Only that the younger Generation spread their religious beliefs as they moved in hopes of spreading the words through their missionaries and enlarging the church. Most of the people in this movement were the younger people and if you look at the movement and migration you can easily see why some of the older church locations dissolved as the older people died and the younger people had moved on. . This is the oldest Sabbatarian Church in the US starting in 1671 in RI and although many people are not aware of it they do have about 70 Churches in No America and are in 20 additional countries. They were in existence before the Seventh Day Adventist, which by the way was started by a former Seventh Day Baptist by the name of Mr Oakes. This occurring about 200 years after the SDB Church was established in America. Well enough of bending your ears, but I thought that you should look at another view point. One of my Ancestors Benjamin Greene of RI married an Anna Sweet as his 2nd wife and she was a widow. Pat