We now have the 12th ward of Troy up on line at the freepages site below through K. Thanks to our volunteers who are doing about ten pages of the census every day, at this rate we should have the whole census done within a month or two. The more volunteers the quicker it is going. When it is complete, I will combine the wards for just one census which will make it easier to search. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nymets/

Hello List, Haven't posted in awhile and decided I'd throw this query back out to the group. Any know anything about these Babcock, Green(e), Morey or Bly families? Sorry if posts twice -- the first message was sent under an unsubscribed email address BABCOCK, Jonathan C. b:April 6, 1800 Stephentown, NY area m:(1st) c1824 Ann MOREY (Ann died after birth of daughter Jane Ann BABCOCK), (2nd) c1827 Lucinda GREEN(E). Jonathan and Lucinda had the following children: Lucinda b:May 15, 1828 in Stephentown area, Orlando b:1830 d:1833 Henriette, NY, Jonathan C b:1832 d:1836 Henriette, NY, Almira b:1837 in Henriette, NY, Sarah b:1839 in Henriette, NY, Olive b: 1842 in Henriette, NY, Jonathan C. b:1844 in Henriette, NY. My unsolved mystery revolves around the parentage of Jonathan C., Ann MOREY and Lucinda GREEN(E). Here's the leads I currently have. Jonathan C. BABCOCK's parents are very likely John BABCOCK b: 1770 (son of Silas BABCOCK and Phoebe WOOD) and Amie BLY (Daughter of Jonathan BLY and Eunice SPENCER -- Eunice's parents were Peter SPENCER and Margaret CLARK). John and Amie reportedly had atleast two children; John B. b: June 20, 1804 d: March 24, 1857 married Mercy CHASE and Jonathan Clark b: April 6, 1800 married Ann MORE on Jan 5, 1824. The only trick is I have not found any confirmation of the above except what I received from another researcher. I have no leads as to the parents of Ann MOREY/MORE and Lucinda GREEN(E). Any help, references, etc., on any of these individuals would be greatly appreciated. Judy

Would anyone have access to either census above? Specifically West Troy and Lansingburg. I have the page number for each census. It is one person for each census. Thanks so much. Patti

I now have up all names starting with A through Guye for the 12th ward of the 1880 Federal Census of Troy on line ast site below. That is over 1600 names plus over 4000 for the 6th ward! We are already almost half way through the 9th ward and working our way north. We have more volunteers so it is going quicker than I can keep up with. Today I'll be working on formatting the next part of the alphabet to get ready to put on line. Happy hunting and I hope you find some ancestors. Pat Connors, Listowner http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nymets/

Someone named Dixon E-mailed me concerning Clickner family, but their address wouldn't take my reply. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

There are a couple references to Salisbury's in Lauretta Harris's book VITAL RECORDS OF THE TOWN OF SCHODACK - including the marriage of a John J. Salisbury, son of John to Eytie Van Buren, dau of Martin - married at Muitzkill 1808. I also recall that the undertaker in Castleton in 1871 was a Salisbury. Ned Schimminger, just outside Niagara Falls

Hi New Members, You can find the following on my web page http://members.tripod.com/~JeffriesB My FAVORITE LINKS THE NEW YORK BARRINGERS Desc. of Johannes Coonradt Beringer DAVID and HANS GEORGE BARRINGER Some of their descendants TINKLEPAUGH Family Genealogy ZUFELD- HOLTSAPPLE Family Genealogies WEIDERWACKS/WEATHERWAX/WITHERWAX Some of the desc. of Andreas Weiderwacks jb's GENEALOGY PAGE Many surnames with descendants incl.: Uline, Dix, Bidwell, Clapper, Cooper, Doty, Carmon, Black, Brust, etc etc. RENSSELAER COUNTY, NY WEB PAGE Includes Church, Census, & Cemetery records. DEFOREST-DEFREEST / WENDELL A few descendants of David Defreest (1747-1815)and a few descendants of Philip Wendell (1741-1812) HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD - 1870 - CENSUS Troy fifth ward - Nassau - Poestenkill - Berlin - Grafton (all Renssealaer Co., NY) WITBECK/WHITBECK Family Genealogy JETS - JEETS - YEATS - YATES Some of the descendants of Joseph Yates KLOCKNER-CLICKNER Some of the descendants of Johannes(George) Klockner (1741-1833) RUNNELLS/REYNOLDS Some descendants of Thomas & Christina (Mohr) Runnells/Reynolds. REICHARD Some of the descendants of Michael Reichard of Rensselaer Co. SCHNEIDER/SNYDER Some of the early Snyders of Rensselaer Co. KUHLMANN/KILLMORE/KILMER Some of the desc. of Johannes & Anna Veronica (Becker) Kilmer LINCK/LYNK/LINK Some of the desc. of Johann Wilhelm & Anna Eva (Firsback) Link PHILIPP/PHILLIP/PHILLIPS/PHILIPS Some of the desc. of Johann Petrus & Magdalena Philip BRANDAW - BRANDAU - BRANDO - BRANDOW Some of the descendants of Johann Wilhelm & Maria Elisabetha Catharina Brandow of Greene Co., NY For living desc. contact Joe Travis jtravis@parl.net and Lisa Orecchio genealogy@orecchio.net DIEDRICH and LAMPMAN Some of the desc. of Johann Friederich Dietrich and some of the desc. of Johann Peter Lampman PERSON and DEWITT A few of the desc. of Matthys & Jan Person and a few of the desc. of Lucas Dewitt - Ulster & Greene Co. PULVER Some of the desc. of Johann Wilhelm (Wendel) Pulver - a Palatine German family. WILTSE - WILLSE - WILSIE Some of the desc. of Marten Hendrickse Wiltse RENSSELAER CO. PROBATE ABSTRACTS #1 1790 and up RENSSELAER CO. PROBATE ABSTRACTS #2 continued from #1 MARRIAGES - GILEAD LUTHERAN CHURCH -Center Brunswick, Rensselaer Co., NY 1802 to 1859 MARRIAGES - SCHODACK REFORMED DUTCH CHURCH at Muitzeskill - Rensselaer Co., NY 1788 to 1846 MARRIAGES - REFORMED PROTESTANT DUTCH CHURCH at NASSAU - Rensselaer Co., NY 1805 -1848 DUTCHESS COUNTY CEMETERIES Interments before 1880 KREBSER/CRAPSEY/CROPSEY Desc. of Wm, Valentine, & Ananias Cropsey COONRADT A few of the desc. of Adam and Elisabeth (Clum) Coonradt ANTHONY Some of the early Anthony familes RENSSELAER COUNTY DEATHS 1850-1860-1870-1880 Mortality Schedules & 1875 State Census RENSSELAER CO. MARRIAGES 1864 & 1865 RENSSELAER Co. MARRIAGES 1874 &1875 MARRIAGES from TROY churches 1st Presby. Ch. and State St. Meth. Ch. OAKWOOD CEMETERY BURIALS, Troy, NY includes date of death, place of birth, age, & parents BLOOMING GROVE CHURCH RECORDS -Rens. Co. Births 1814-1865 ----Marriages 1831-1862 ---- Deaths 1895-1926 MARRIAGES St. Paul's Episcopal Ch. of Troy - 1805-1829 ----!st Presbyterian Ch. of Brunswick 1876-1887 --- 1st Presbyterian Ch. of Lansingburgh 1840-1848 MORE RENSSELAER CO. DEATHS Incl. Burials from ST PAUL'S EPISCOPAL CH. of TROY and SOCIETY OF FRIENDS BAPTISMS - St. Paul's Episcopal Ch., Troy, NY 1804-1826 BIRTHS & BAPTISMS 1st Presbyterian Ch., Brunswick 1812-1832 and Society of Friends 1743-1840- both Rensselaer Co. MARRIAGES >From Troy, NY newspapers 1798-1859 JEFF LAPE'S PAGE Lowe/Lape genealogy and more SCHENECTADY PUBLIC LIBRARY Churches, Cemeteries, Biog., genealogies, etc. ST. PETER'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH of Albany Marriages 1756-1768 and Baptisms 1757-1759 NEW SALEM REFORMED CHURCH Town of New Scotland, Albany Co. marriages 1794 -1797 and births 1786 -1788 WESTERLO VITAL RECORDS, Albany Co. births, deaths, & marriages 1847 - 1848 - 1849 COLUMBIA CO., NY BURIAL INDEX Index of names and list of cemeteries __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Yes, I have started to upload new records from the 12th ward, Abbott to Byson. See my freepages URL below. The 12th ward has a total of 4,013 entries (people) which include 427 dwellings and 730 families. When both wards are on line you will have the following to research: 8,570 entries, 853 dwellings and 1,547 families! Bob McConihe, Lynn Grice, Dorsey Clark and Matt Bloomfield are the volunteers who are responsible for transcribing the 12th ward. Bob informed me that he has now transcribed 100 census pages (5,000 entries)! Lynn is right behind him with her numbers. These people are to be commended for their dedication to the genealogy community. If you see an ancestor in our records, let me know and I'll send you the census page where they are listed. In turn, I ask you transcribe another census page. Or, if you would like to just volunteer in this project, email me privately. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nymets/

We have just completed transcribing the 12th ward for Troy from the 1880 census. As already announced, we completed the 6th ward and it is on line at my freepages site. Today I revamped the site to get ready to start getting the 12th ward on line. I have added a map of the 6th ward which can be copied and printed by you so you can see exactly where your ancestors lived. When I start putting the 12th ward on line, I will make the announcement on this list. FYI, yesterday we started on the 9th ward. If anyone would like to help, just email me privately and I can send you a census page and a template to transcribe the info into. Would love to hear feedback over whether you find the site easy to navigate and especially if you found any ancestors. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nymets/

Hello Listers, Ned had given me a suggestion of looking up family on the 1850 and 1860 census INDEX. He was going to the LDS library today and he offered to look them up but unfortunately I didn't get the email until this morning. Does anyone have access to the 1850 and 1860 INDEX for New York State? I have called 3 libraries in a 10 mile radius and none of them have historical indexes. If no one has access, I will head into downtown next week where I am sure(fingers crossed!) they have the indexes. Thanks, Patti Smith

Hello listers. Looking for anything on any Salisbury families in the late 1700's. I have a John Salisbury (sp?) born about 1784, to 1790. Any and all help greatly appreciated! Thanks! JB

In a message dated 2/7/01 11:05:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, NYRENSSE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Hello All, > > I have a question regarding steamboating in New York in the 1850's-1860's. > > My GGgrandfather listed his occupation as "Steamboating on the Hudson > River", when he entered the Navy during the Civil War in 1862 and he > enlisted from the state of "New York". > > He was born in Troy, NY and I am trying to locate when he left Troy and > where he went to. I don't find him in the census for 1850 or 1860 in Troy > (Renssealer County). I am then trying to think of where he might have gone > to work on steamboats on the Hudson in New York. I don't know how much > relevance it has but his younger brother ended up in Webster, MA. in the > 1870's. > > Anyone have any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, > > > Patti Smith > > Patti - Have you checked for your ancestor in the 1850 and 1860 NYS census INDEX? You might find him there (or his parents). If you do not have easy access to the indices, I will be at LDS library Monday and can do a quick check for you if you get me his and his parents' names, quickly. (I am hoping they are not SMITH's like yourself.:) Ned Schimminger, just outside Niagara Falls

In a message dated 2/9/01 1:30:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, barbnjoe@citrus.infi.net writes: << Hope someone can come up with an answer on this one. I received a soundex film for the 1900 census for the name Albertson. I found my gg-grandmother on it. The top of the card read Vol 116, ED 723, Sheet 7 Line 17. However, when I went into the census records I cant find the ED723. It would be helpful if the card had the Ward no. but it didn't. Any ideas out there? Barbara >> hi Barbara , This has to be a miss print / read , I have a feeling that the ED #`s don`t go that high , ....... Give me the info about your ' Albertson family ' what state / county / town , I`ll check it at the Archives for you , Phil

Hope someone can come up with an answer on this one. I received a soundex film for the 1900 census for the name Albertson. I found my gg-grandmother on it. The top of the card read Vol 116, ED 723, Sheet 7 Line 17. However, when I went into the census records I cant find the ED723. It would be helpful if the card had the Ward no. but it didn't. Any ideas out there? Barbara

I am looking for the parents of John CRUICKSHANK (B) 2-10-1832 TROY, NY (M) Mary Elizabeth ANTHONY (b) 9-24-1829 TROY.NY. Also need parents of his wife. Happy Hunting Ronda Tuolumne, Ca USA Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic

The census of 1850 shows an Abner Thurber(or Thurbor) 43 living in Mississippi with wife and children. It indicates he was b. in NY. Rensselaer is one of the NY counties having Thurbers in the early 1800's. Does anyone on the list have information about a Thurber or Thurbor family with son Abner b. ca 1807? Thanks Florence Thurber Gargaro

Looking for a Taylor family in Troy, Rensselaer County New York, 1840-1860. ALEXANDER HENRY MUHLENBURG TAYLOR was born in Manchester, England 1840, father was John Lyman Oliver Taylor born in NY and mother was Margareth Elizabeth Pelham born in England. Alexander came to US when he was two, his parents were supposed to have died in a shipping or boating accident and he was raised by his uncle. He received a large inheritance in 1861, joined the Army from New York City where he was a mercantile clerk. No known siblings or other family. His family was "close personal friends" of Roscoe Conkling and he spent summers in Albany at or near the Conkling home. The connection is unknown to the Muhlenburg family but I think a Mahlon Taylor from NJ may have served in the Revolution with Gen Muhlenburg and there are some records in Augusta Co., Va., of a Mahlon Taylor. Appreciate any help.

Patti Smith wrote: <<<My GGgrandfather listed his occupation as "Steamboating on the Hudson River", when he entered the Navy during the Civil War in 1862 and he enlisted from the state of "New York". He was born in Troy, NY and I am trying to locate when he left Troy and where he went to. I don't find him in the census for 1850 or 1860 in Troy (Renssealer County). I am then trying to think of where he might have gone to work on steamboats on the Hudson in New York. I don't know how much relevance it has but his younger brother ended up in Webster, MA. in the 1870's.>>>> I don't know if I can help too much other than to say that the Hudson river boat traffic must have been considerable and Troy/Lansingburgh had many workers in the industry including my gg and g grandfathers (along with their brothers). You might also look in Albany and of course, any of the other cities along the Hudson down to New York City. My forefathers known to have been on the river at Troy for some or all of their lives were: William Spotten MITER 1791-1825 Thomas Halloway MITER 1797-1873 John J MITER 1809-1875 (on the river for just a few years when younger) Thomas William MITER 1926-1896 Brad Miter/Ohio

Hi, The Troy Orphan Asylum has some surviving records. A place called Vanderhyden Hall (Boys Home) on Pauling Ave. in Troy has them. They are in 2 or 3 old filing cabinets, in alphabetical order. It may be worth a call or letter. I've gone there and seen them. Most are just index cards with names and dates, but some have photos and birth certificates attached, it's heartbreaking. Their business office phone number is (518) 283-3010 and the address there is 185 Main Ave., Wynantskill NY 12198 happy hunting, JO Nedschim@aol.com wrote: > hello list, and Jackie in particular, > > I was intrigued by your question about indenturing from the orphanage. My > grgrandmother Cora TURCK , born in Renss. Co., was 'half-orphaned' after her > father remarried her 'evil' stepmother. I have no clue what happened to her, > but she appears on the other side of the state -near Buffalo when she is ten. > Just recently a cousin used the term that she had been an indentured servant > (I dismissed it as meaning she was from Europe) but I was fascinated to hear > the term used, I guess, with placement by the orphange. > > I am waiting for anyone to answer your particular question about how it > worked, but my other question is whether or not you know of records that > exist for the Troy Orphan Asylum. Cora would have been a candidate for an > orphanage from about 1867 till 1878. Her younger sister Ida Anna TURCK > wasn't 'kicked out' of the house until after 1870. Family tradition mentions > a St Luke's Orphanage i n NYC for her, but parts of that story don't sit > right. > > Any pointers on Orphan research would be greatly appreciated. > > Ned Schimminger, just outside Niagara Falls > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > Barbara's Genealogy Page: http://members.tripod.com/~JeffriesB > Rensselaer County Genweb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/ > GenConnect Board: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Rensselaer > GenExchange-Rensselaer Co http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=rensselaer

Hello All, I have a question regarding steamboating in New York in the 1850's-1860's. My GGgrandfather listed his occupation as "Steamboating on the Hudson River", when he entered the Navy during the Civil War in 1862 and he enlisted from the state of "New York". He was born in Troy, NY and I am trying to locate when he left Troy and where he went to. I don't find him in the census for 1850 or 1860 in Troy (Renssealer County). I am then trying to think of where he might have gone to work on steamboats on the Hudson in New York. I don't know how much relevance it has but his younger brother ended up in Webster, MA. in the 1870's. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Patti Smith