There is a microfiche available that is called, "Inscriptions on gravestones in the Old Troy Cemetery". Does anyone know any details about that cemetery? Where is it located? How "old" is "old"? Thanks, Patti

Hello All I can't locate the email address of the person who requested the city directory lookup for William T. Willard. I am going to post it here to ensure they get it. 1842-1843 Troy City Directory William T. Willard, merchant, 193 river, h 30 second 1847-1848 Troy City Directory William T. Willard, forwarding and commission merchant, boston packet, and flax agency, corner dock and adams, h 121 second. Patti Orlando, Fl

To list members, today when accessing my mail my antinorton virus program alerted me to the fact that my mail was infected by the Katvir.623 virus. I am alerting you to be on the lookout for this problem. I am not blaming anyone, but I do believe it came from this list. And I know other lists have had this problem, so please beware. Linda

Here are two 1909 Syracuse Herald (Onondaga Co., NY) newspaper articles. The first explains why you may not be able to find birth records for some of your NY ancestors. The second deals with making doctors responsible for filing death records. The articles were found recently by Ruth Ann Messick, a genealogical researcher from Saratoga Co. who can be seen almost daily at the NYS Library in Albany, NY. My father was born in 1912. He and two of nine siblings never had birth information submitted to the state. For him, it was 31 years after a law was passed to require birth, marriage and death be collected by local governments (county, town(ship), city or village) and then forwarded to the state. Earlier this week someone wrote to me to say that the state and local record for their father, born 1910, was not available either. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Syracuse Herald, Wednesday Evening, June 2 1909 STORK PAID 201 LOCAL VISITS DURING THE MONTH OF MAY The birth rate in Syracuse for May is a decided improvement over that for April. During the thirty-one days that elapsed between the beginning and the end of the month the stork paid no less than 201 visits to Syracuse families. In several cases, however, the visits were made in quick succession, the long legged bird simply depositing one precious burden and flying off to bring a little twin brother or sister for the new baby. Registrar John Metz of the Bureau of Vital Statistics is of the opinion that many more babies are born in Syracuse than those whose births are recorded and he bases his belief upon the fact that there are MANY physicians in the city who RARELY if ever file a birth certificate - among them some of the doctors who make a specialty of acting as aids to Herr Stork. "We have written them letter after letter and have used every means that we know of to get the births reported" said the Registrar, "and still we are thoroughly convinced that we don't get anywhere nearly as full returns as we ought. There are three or four doctors in town who, between them, could easily swell the birth list by SEVERAL HUNDREDS a year from whom we hear almost nothing. And there are midwives practicing who do not file their birth certificates, they are not many, because the midwives realize for most part that there are few easier ways of earning a quarter than by filling out a blank and reporting a birth to this office." "I can't see any possible reason why either physicians or parents should object to the filing of birth records, and, as a matter of fact, the failure to send them in is caused merely by carelessness. In some families the doctor gives their children what they receive from death and birth certificates, and in that case there is no danger that we won't get the names of all the new babies. The youngsters watch for them like hawks, and 'papa' has no peace of mind until he gets his certificate ready. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Syracuse Herald, Friday Evening, June 4, 1909 UP TO THE PHYSICIANS Amendment to Law Makes Them Responsible for Certificate. ______ Instead of Undertakers ______ Heretofore the Doctors have collected the fee and Undertakers have been obliged to get papers filled out and filed - New law about filing of Births ______ Physicians will have more work under an amendment to the public health law which the State Department of Health is preparing to enforce. When a doctor's patient dies he must within twenty-four hours deliver to the local registrar a certificate of the death and the probable cause. The amendment transfers the responsibility from the undertaker to the physician, relieving the undertaker of the necessity of calling upon the physician for the necessary data. Under the new law, in case an inquest is required by law, the Coroner or the Coroner's physician must fill out the certificate, and if no inquest is required and no physician has been in attendance, the certificate shall be filled out by some reputable person known to the official issuing the burial permit, and the person thus acting must make an affidavit to the facts set forth in the death certificate. The old law required the undertaker to file the physician's certificate before securing a burial permit. The amendment enables the Health Department to deal directly with the physicians. Another amendment requires that the registration of a birth must be made within thirty-six hours to the local health authorities, the object of this provision being to enable the Health Department to prepare the vital statistics of the State, another amendment requires that statistics must be forwarded from all localities on or before the fifth of the month. The State Health Department is preparing circulars, which will be sent to local health officers for distribution among physicians. ______ Registrar Favors Law "The amendment can scarcely fail to be of benefit," said Registrar of Vital Statistics John Metz this morning. "The physicians have always received the fee for the filing of death certificates and the undertakers have shouldered the responsibility of the filing. Therefore, of course, the undertakers have been more or less dissatisfied. They have frequently been obliged to call at the house of the doctor more than once in order to get a death certificate signed, and often there has been delay in the issuing of the burial permit." "Another good result of the new law will be the holding up of cases which ought to belong to the Coroner and giving him an opportunity to act upon them before the hour of the funeral. If a death certificate is filed within twenty-four hours after the death occurs, it will make it possible to get all the necessary information in case there is any reason for inquiry." "The filing of birth certificates within thirty-six hours is another excellent point and one which I trust will be possible to enforce. At present, we have pretty hard work to get the birth certificates filed at all, and if we can get full returns and get them quickly, it will certainly be a very good thing." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I called the FHC and alas....the census has no index. So I'm also up the creek without a paddle! Anyway, I am excited about the directories though. If anyone has the index to the 1850 Rensselaer County, please let me know if you can do a lookup for me. So, if you have a lookup request, please have the page info too. They said the census will remain here for 1 month, so I plan on going back. If you requested a census lookup today without the page info, I can't help you BUT I will check the directories. I'm going to order the burial records for Rensselaer county today too! Thanks, Patti.....I'm off to FHC! -----Original Message----- From: Patti Smith [mailto:PSmith@fmd-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:46 AM To: NYRENSSE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Rensselaer] Lookups Happy Thursday fellow listers! I got the call yesterday afternoon from the FHC informing me that my fiche and film are in! Needless to say you can guess where I am spending my lunch. I would like to offer lookups for the 1842 and 1848 city directories for Troy. I can also do lookups for the 1850 census for Troy as well. I'm not sure how the census works as far as having an index or not. I will find out when I get there. Depending on the amount of requests I get, I will attempt to do them all today. I will also be going tomorrow and even this weekend so eventually I should be able to get to them. Patti Orlando, Fl. ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== Barbara's Genealogy Page: http://members.tripod.com/~JeffriesB Rensselaer County Genweb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/ GenConnect Board: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Rensselaer GenExchange-Rensselaer Co http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=rensselaer

Happy Thursday fellow listers! I got the call yesterday afternoon from the FHC informing me that my fiche and film are in! Needless to say you can guess where I am spending my lunch. I would like to offer lookups for the 1842 and 1848 city directories for Troy. I can also do lookups for the 1850 census for Troy as well. I'm not sure how the census works as far as having an index or not. I will find out when I get there. Depending on the amount of requests I get, I will attempt to do them all today. I will also be going tomorrow and even this weekend so eventually I should be able to get to them. Patti Orlando, Fl.

Can anyone tell me if the Stephentown Association Cemetery has another name? Is this the cemetery that is listed in NEHGR, Vol. 73, as the Baptist Cemetery? Thank you! kathy campbell

Hello fellow listers, This question isn't the sort of main stream question we usually see on here but I hope some of you can give me some advice. When my gggrandfather left Troy to join the civil war in 1862, he spent most of his time in Cairo, Illinois (Mound City) with the Navy. He remained there after he mustered out, married, raised his family and died there. In the rootsweb listings for that area, there is a book has been offered for sale. This gentleman found it in his elderly grandmother's things and has no need for it. It is the history of the county and surrounding counties. It is 333 pages, and highlights 1841 through 1880. It sounds very interesting and I would love to have it. The question is, I have absolutely no idea on what to offer for it. If I had lots of money I would offer lots of money and that would ensure my getting it, but sadly :( that isn't the case. Has anyone been in this situation and can offer me some advice on buying this types of specialty item? I wonder if there is an "antiquesroadshow.com"??!! (Just kiddin') Thanks so much in advance! Patti

Hello, Does anyone have access to the 1850 Troy, Rensselear County, Census.? Could someone do a lookup for me? I believe the info I am looking for is on page 108. The last name is LOVETT, and the first name may be Ylysses/Alysses/Ulysses. There should be a wife, and possibly a son, Charles listed. In advance, I thank you, Jackie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Thomas" <dthomas@dmci.net> To: <NYRENSSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: [Rensselaer] Van Rensselaer Family History > I am a Direct Decendant of the Van Rensselaer family and seeking information regarding the Van Rensselaer Family: > > Killian Van Rensselaer > (b. 1585 - d. Oct. 7, 1643) > m. Dec. 14, 1627 > Anna Van Wely > (b. 1601 - d. June 12, 1670) > > ------ > > Jeremias Van Rensselaer > (b. 1632 - d. 10/12/1674) > m. July 12, 1662 > Maria Van Cortlandt > (b. 1645 - d. Jan. 29, 1688/1689) > > If anyone has any information could you please pass it on to me. Thanks in advance. > > Dan Thomas > email: dthomas@dmci.net I have a biography/photo on the site for Howard Van Rensselaer that might tie in and is listed here among the other surnames from New York State Men bios page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~darci/notes/fowsndx.htm Darci > > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > Some Rensselaer Births, Marriages & Deaths: http://www.angelfire.com/fl/Sumter/Troy.html > Rensselaer County Genweb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/ > GenConnect Board: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Rensselaer > 1880 Fed Census: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > >

I am a Direct Decendant of the Van Rensselaer family and seeking information regarding the Van Rensselaer Family: Killian Van Rensselaer (b. 1585 - d. Oct. 7, 1643) m. Dec. 14, 1627 Anna Van Wely (b. 1601 - d. June 12, 1670) ------ Jeremias Van Rensselaer (b. 1632 - d. 10/12/1674) m. July 12, 1662 Maria Van Cortlandt (b. 1645 - d. Jan. 29, 1688/1689) If anyone has any information could you please pass it on to me. Thanks in advance. Dan Thomas email: dthomas@dmci.net

Yes, but I believe Job died after his supposed son Sherman who died in 1825 and left his two "minor" children Joshua and Joanna in the custody of their brother Samuel of Summit. Again, any information is appreciated. Thank you very much. Where did you get the book? Mark Dionne wrote: > > Hi Charles, > > Job Tanner and Annie Sharman are listed on p. 9 of "A Guide to > the Descendants of William Tanner" by Terri McSweeny. > Of 9 children, only Sherman has no descendants listed. > There is a note that the information is based in part > on the will of Job Tanner, so there is obviously a will, > but anything useful in it has already probably been > extracted. > > DAR #54893 is also mentioned. > > Terri's email is Tbridgid@aol.com > > Best of luck, > Mark Dionne

Would anyone happen to know if it's possible to get the Prison Records of an inmate who would have served in Clinton County Prison at Damnemora Town from 1896 to 1912? Would these records be available in Albany?

Hi! I am trying to locate information on Michael Murnane who lived in Rensselaer Co. in the city of Troy. Michael was born in Tipperary Ireland and came with his parents, James and Mary (Coughlin) Murnane, and 7 siblings, settling in Chateauagy, NY in 1847-8. The family history says that Michael went to live in Troy. No other mention was made regarding him. According to the 1880 US census reports there was a Michael Murnane who married Alice abt.1858 living at 3 VanBuren (Street ?) . There were seven children listed in this census: Katie(age 21),b.abt.1859; John (19), b.1861; James (17),b.1863; Harry (10), b.1870; Charles (8), b.1872; Mary (5), b. 1875; Edward (3), b.1877. The Troy City Directory says that this Michael died 3/2/1881.I would appreciate any information about this family as I feel that this family is the one I have been searching for. I would also like to contact any descendants of Michael Murnane. THANKS! Joe Murnane, Williamson,NY - JMurnane77@aol.com

Dear people: I have learned that a Job TANNER and Annie (Sherman) TANNER of Rensselear Co., NY (having arrived from R.I.) had a son Sherman (Shearman) TANNER b. abt 1773. I have also learned that my ancestor Samuel TANNER b. 1800 d. 1868 had a father named Sherman TANNER who died 1825. I have not been able to find any other Sherman TANNER other than that of Job and Annie TANNER. Is there anyone familiar with the TANNER family? Is there anyone who would be willing to help me determine whether a will exists for Job TANNER? I think this might be a connection, but obviously do not believe it to be so until more information is learned. Any help would be most appreciated. Charles Mudd

The Rensselaer County Special Interest Group of the Capital District Genealogical Society will meet on Friday, May 18, at 10:30 a.m. The meeting will be at the Brunswick Historical Society Meeting Room in the Garfield School, Eagle Mills, on Route 2 at Moonlawn Road. The format will be the same as the last meeting. Our guests will be County Clerk Frank Merola, Ruth Sweet from the Troy Public Library, Kathy Sheehan from the Rensselaer County Historical Society and Clare and Don Radz who did the Rensselaer County Cemetery Census. The meeting is free and open to the public. You are invited to come and ask these experts a "where to find" kind of question related to Rensselaer County. At the last meeting we had many of the Town Historians present also, and they are a valuable resource. Car pooling is encouraged. For those of you not able to attend the meeting, I will try to ask your question for you and if I get it asked, will post the response to the list. It was a very busy question session last time. I already have received a couple of questions. Marie

My great great grandfather John Sibbald lived in Cohoes in 1860 and died young around 1865. Family lore has it that he invented some kind of flooring material, either a parquet flooring, or some kind of linoleum type of material. He may have moved to Troy or Albany. Has anyone heard of any kind of flooring manufacture in the Albany/Troy/Cohoes area around 1860-65? Mark Dionne Newton, MA

Hello Everyone! Looking for any information on Henry Coleman (1838-1903) and his wife Emma Lucelia Jillson (1851-189?). Henry came from Ireland in the early 1840's and settled in Whitehall. He eventually wound up in Poughkeepsie and was principal at Eastman's College after Mr. Eastman died (around 1878?). He moved to Newark, NJ in 1881 to begin his own school (the Coleman National Business College). Emma Jillson was born in Troy, NY but all three of she and Henry's children where born Poughkeepsie and baptised at Christ Church (Episcopal) in Poughkeepsie. Emma probably died in Poughkeepsie. Her parents were Royal Blake Jillson (1817-1876?) and Sarah Havens (dates unknown). Both died in Troy. I believe Royal was born in Whitehall. Henry and Emma were also married in Troy in 1873. Any information is greatly needed, thank you. Julie balebis@peoplepc.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Looking for information on Coleman-Knowlton families. Angeline Coleman, daughter of Royal Coleman and Dolly Godfrey, married Leonard Knowlton. They are on the 1855 census of Sand Lake. Haven't found anything else on this family yet. Can anyone help? Thanks, Georgiana

I posted "www.parishesonline.org" as a way to find Catholic parishes online, and have been corrected. Thanks. Try "www.parishesonline.com". That's what I should have written. Mea culpa. Marty