My Grandfather's first wife's name was Mary Alice Hawley. She was born on April 28, 1883 and died on Aug. 10, 1962. She is buried in Dewittville, NY. She and my grandfather had 2 children. Their son and his wife had one daughter, who is still living. Unfortunately I do not know much about this family because my dad did not know until late in his life that his father had been married before. But I do have the address of the living daughter. I will try to research a little more on this family. Sue McGill

I have Jabez HAWLEY from the 1870 census (NY Onondaga Syracuse 4th Ward p 21) listed as age 45, Cabinet Maker, with wife Dorothea age 50, Fred, 19, Drug Clerk, Mary, 16 and Irene, 10. Fred S. HAWLEY b. Jan 1851 went on to found Hawley's Drug Store in Moravia, Cayuga County, NY in 1877. His son, Ralph Wright Hawley b. 22 Sept 1879 joined the business in 1908. Ralph's son Richard Foster ("Dick") Hawley b. 2 Nov 1923 d. 26 Jan 2005 joined the business in 1955. The store closed after 127 years in business following Dick's death earlier this year. Here is a link to what I know http://www.nonesuchfolks.com/TNGP/descend.php?personID=I7386&tree=nsf I would be interested in a copy of the letter to attach to the Hawley records on my website. Roger Phillips [email protected] www.nonesuchfolks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley & Tomas Cardiel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:27 AM Subject: HAWLEY Family Letter > I've "rescued" an old family letter written by Thressa HAWLEY "Sister" of > Spring Garden, Florida to Jabez HAWLEY "Brother" of Syracuse, New York. > The > letter was dated February 24 1879 and includes a number of clues to the > identity of this family including: > > > > During the 1880 census I find Nathan HAWLEY and Thresia HAWLEY living in > Kenosha, WI in a boarding house. Nathan is listed as age 71, born in VT, > a > retired Merchant and his wife Thresia is age 48, also born in VT. I > believe > that Nathan HAWLEY was b. 22 Dec 1808 in Kenosha, WI, the son of Nathan > HAWLEY and Electa PURDY. Nathan married Maria F. TOWSLEE on the 19th of > Jun > 1850. I'm not sure based on this if Thresia or Thressa is his first or > second wife. > > > > * Mentions their move from Kenosha to Florida. > * Talks of Nathan who I believe is her husband, indicates his health > is poor. > * States that Nelson & Cornelia and four of the girls are living in > town with Towslee. > > Guessing that Towslee is a son since that was Nathan's wife's maiden name. > > * Ellen is living in Racine, keeping house for a friend. > * Wolcott has bought land in Texas and will start a vineyard. > * George is in Boston with two children. > > The 1880 census of Winchester, MA includes the HAWLEY Family. George > HAWLEY > age 42, born in NY, a Druggist living with his wife Harriet N. age 38, > born > in MA, a daughter Bessie P. age 11, and son Francis N. age 3, both > children > born in MA. George's sister-in-law, Mary W. PAGE age 45 is also living > with > the family. Additional records indicate that George Francis HAWLEY was b. > 31 Jan 1836 in Skaneateles, NY to parents Major Nelson HAWLEY and Cornelia > FRANCIS and that he married Hattie Northy RUSSELL on the 16th of Oct 1867. > Major Nelson HAWLEY b. 8 Jun 1801 in Kenosha, WI was the son of Nathan > HAWLEY and Electa PURDY, his wife Cornelia FRANCIS was b. 16 Oct 1814 in > Skaneateles, NY, the daughter of Samuel FRANCIS and Anna TODD. Nelson & > Cornelia had 9 children: Ellen; George Francis; Cornelia Ann; Butler > Wolcott; Emma Elizabeth; Nelson; Julia Mallory; Laura Horton; and Anna > Kellogg HAWLEY all born in Skaneateles or Troy, NY between 1834 and 1853. > > * Ralph and family are wintering with Mrs. CLEGHORN (Sarah HAWLEY) in > Madison, Wisconsin. > > I believe this is Ralph HAWLEY b. 19 Mar 1808 at Kenosha, WI to parents > Nathan HAWLEY and Electa PURDY. Ralph married Julia F. MALLORY on the > 12th > of Oct 1836. > > * James is preaching. > * J. Hawley hasn't been heard from was last on the way to Chicago. > * Talks about Mary's children. > * Caroline sent a letter recently. > > > > Based on limited research I was able to locate the family of Jabez HAWLEY > living in Syracuse, NY during the 1880 census. Jabez HAWLEY was 76 years > old at the time, born in NY, a Cabinetmaker whose parents were born in VT. > His wife Dorcas was 60 years old, born in NY to NY born parents. Their > daughter Irene was living with them at the time of the census, her age > listed as 20 years, a School Teacher, also born in NY. > > > > Jabez HAWLEY was b. 1 Nov 1803 to parents Nathan HAWLEY and Electa PURDY > and > married his first wife, Elizabeth GUNN on 25 Jan 1843. His second > marriage > was to Dorcas SHERWOOD on 3 May 1848. I'm hoping to locate someone from > this family so that this wonderful piece of family history can be returned > to family for safekeeping. If you are a member of this family, or know > someone who might be, please contact me. > > > > Thanks, > > Shelley > > >

Did you post this on the WI lists also???

I've "rescued" an old family letter written by Thressa HAWLEY "Sister" of Spring Garden, Florida to Jabez HAWLEY "Brother" of Syracuse, New York. The letter was dated February 24 1879 and includes a number of clues to the identity of this family including: During the 1880 census I find Nathan HAWLEY and Thresia HAWLEY living in Kenosha, WI in a boarding house. Nathan is listed as age 71, born in VT, a retired Merchant and his wife Thresia is age 48, also born in VT. I believe that Nathan HAWLEY was b. 22 Dec 1808 in Kenosha, WI, the son of Nathan HAWLEY and Electa PURDY. Nathan married Maria F. TOWSLEE on the 19th of Jun 1850. I'm not sure based on this if Thresia or Thressa is his first or second wife. * Mentions their move from Kenosha to Florida. * Talks of Nathan who I believe is her husband, indicates his health is poor. * States that Nelson & Cornelia and four of the girls are living in town with Towslee. Guessing that Towslee is a son since that was Nathan's wife's maiden name. * Ellen is living in Racine, keeping house for a friend. * Wolcott has bought land in Texas and will start a vineyard. * George is in Boston with two children. The 1880 census of Winchester, MA includes the HAWLEY Family. George HAWLEY age 42, born in NY, a Druggist living with his wife Harriet N. age 38, born in MA, a daughter Bessie P. age 11, and son Francis N. age 3, both children born in MA. George's sister-in-law, Mary W. PAGE age 45 is also living with the family. Additional records indicate that George Francis HAWLEY was b. 31 Jan 1836 in Skaneateles, NY to parents Major Nelson HAWLEY and Cornelia FRANCIS and that he married Hattie Northy RUSSELL on the 16th of Oct 1867. Major Nelson HAWLEY b. 8 Jun 1801 in Kenosha, WI was the son of Nathan HAWLEY and Electa PURDY, his wife Cornelia FRANCIS was b. 16 Oct 1814 in Skaneateles, NY, the daughter of Samuel FRANCIS and Anna TODD. Nelson & Cornelia had 9 children: Ellen; George Francis; Cornelia Ann; Butler Wolcott; Emma Elizabeth; Nelson; Julia Mallory; Laura Horton; and Anna Kellogg HAWLEY all born in Skaneateles or Troy, NY between 1834 and 1853. * Ralph and family are wintering with Mrs. CLEGHORN (Sarah HAWLEY) in Madison, Wisconsin. I believe this is Ralph HAWLEY b. 19 Mar 1808 at Kenosha, WI to parents Nathan HAWLEY and Electa PURDY. Ralph married Julia F. MALLORY on the 12th of Oct 1836. * James is preaching. * J. Hawley hasn't been heard from was last on the way to Chicago. * Talks about Mary's children. * Caroline sent a letter recently. Based on limited research I was able to locate the family of Jabez HAWLEY living in Syracuse, NY during the 1880 census. Jabez HAWLEY was 76 years old at the time, born in NY, a Cabinetmaker whose parents were born in VT. His wife Dorcas was 60 years old, born in NY to NY born parents. Their daughter Irene was living with them at the time of the census, her age listed as 20 years, a School Teacher, also born in NY. Jabez HAWLEY was b. 1 Nov 1803 to parents Nathan HAWLEY and Electa PURDY and married his first wife, Elizabeth GUNN on 25 Jan 1843. His second marriage was to Dorcas SHERWOOD on 3 May 1848. I'm hoping to locate someone from this family so that this wonderful piece of family history can be returned to family for safekeeping. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

John and Mary Garvey appear in the 1850 census in Dwelling # 1649 Troy, Renssalaer County, New York ages 29 and 24 with three children, James 3, William 1 and John 1 month. In 1860 census Mary is in Green Island, Albany County with five children, and John is in MN with another wife and child. Seeking the descendants of the first marriage to share history. Mary Ellen - Minnesota

Has anyone researched the Calahan or Cahill families from Greenbush? Names associated with the families are Kirwan, Rabbit, Roche and Flanigan. I have put family summaries on the Rensselaer Co. website. I am trying to establish the counties of origin in Ireland, but can find nothing specific in the records. Lynne Sisk ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: NYRENSSE-D Digest V05 #156

Hi Lisa, You may already know this , but I just realized it . Abigail Richer and Peter Bonesteel, are also related thru the marriage of Nicolaus Bohnenstiel and Anna Maria Elizabeth Treber . Abigail --father Jacob Richer , son of John Killean Richer and Anna Maria Bohnenstiel whose parents were Nicolaus Bohnenstiel and Anna Maria Elizabeth Treber. Peter -- who goes back to Nicolaus thru son Lodowick[an early settler in Grafton], and is Anna Maria's younger brother . I keep looking for Almon Bonesteel facts and finding things I'm not looking for, but are relevant. Also surprising is the large number of Bonesteel/Hayner relationships.[mostly from the Hayner web site]. I also found out Paul Bruno, living son [hopefully] of Carol Slaughter and Herbert Bruno, has the bible of Peter Bonesteel. Carol is the daughter of James C. Slaughter and Lena Hayner. James is brother of Elizabeth Slaughter who married Albert Hayner. Lena and Albert are children of Charles Enos Hayner and Chloe Bonesteel. See ya Dave

Hi Pat, Hey, that's great - when I got mine I was living in Nevada, and back then there was no e-mail!!!! Barbara --- ConnorsGenealogy <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a section with film #s on passports on the > Rensselaer County > website that I host at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/Vital.htm > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm > AntiVirus > > > > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ > A place to unsub, change your subscription, access > the archives and links. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Dave, My apologies for not writing sooner. I have tried to find out more information but my mother doesn't know what my father was talking about when he passed the comment. She has no interest in genealogy, and said my father never really discussed his family. She knew his immediate family and didn't question beyond that. Too busy looking forward to look back! I've written to ask an older relative whether there is any truth to the comment with regard to our family, but haven't heard anything. Do you know the other names involved even if they aren't Bonesteel's? I'd really like to know. You can always email me off list. I'm not tracing this side of the family but have a list of family names "somewhere" in my "stuff". I'm not even sure Bonesteel is one of them, but can't say for sure. Where could I find information to read on these murders?? Would you direct me to wherever you came by this information, please? Perhaps newspaper articles, or maybe something you could email me, etc...I rather doubt my father was joking entirely. It may have been something he had heard as a child. I don't know, but would like to. Hope to hear from you, Sheila

Hi Shelia, What is your connection to the Bonesteel name ? Your father may not have been entirely joking ! Andrew Bonesteel, born 1855, "son" of Peter Bonesteel was illegimate and actually the son of unmarried daughter Abigail at age 20. The murder could be from the novel "The Rosewood Casket" whose main character, Nora Bonesteel is charged with the murder of a child. I have no idea when this was written but it is fiction. The other possibilities are true happenings , and occured in 1848 in Petersburgh [which was formed from parts of Berlin , Nassau , Lansingburgh and Grafton], and 1845 in Berlin.[man murdered his wife of 1 week !] The murderer of the 2 people in Petersburgh also confessed to a previous murder of a boy in Hoosick. Not involving Bonesteel's , but maybe basis for story. This area of Rensselaer County was an early settlement area, as the Bonesteel clan made their way North out of Dutchess County, and all are related back to Nicolaus and first wife Anna Catharina , and second wife Anna Margaretha Kuntz. Later immigrants from Germany and/or England may also be related, as I believe his father and mother Niclaus and Susannah Elisabeth Bohnenstiel had at least 2 additional sons that did not migrate in 1710, but may have come over at a later date. Both parents were born 1664, Rhine, Pfalz, Germany for father Niclaus and just Germany listed for Susannah Elisabeth, but probably same location for her. If you think of anything else , please post it, as it may mean something to someone as a memory jogger. Regards Dave [email protected] wrote: >YES!! Please DO continue to post the Bonesteel info. I don't know whether >there is a connection to any of my family, but a comment was passed by my >father (who died in 2002) mentioning the name years ago. Something about a >murder, a "bastard" relation, and another name which I do not remember. Knowing >his sense of humor, it could have been a joke, etc. But when I heard the >name Bonesteel, it got my attention. If I hadn't seen these postings, I would >not have thought of it. Now I'm curious... > >Sheila > > >==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== >The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ >A place to unsub, change your subscription, access the archives and links. > > > >

I have a section with film #s on passports on the Rensselaer County website that I host at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/Vital.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

Hi, What you need is a passport application - I once had one for the 1860's and I got it from the National Archives - check their web page, if the info is not there, try a branch near you. Barbara ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Many people subscribe to The Godfrey Memorial Library and from this site can search the New York Times 1851-2001. So I suggest you post the person's name with the date 1890 and see what people can find. If you are interested in more info on Godfrey the site is www.godfrey.org Good luck -----Original Message----- From: Jane Schneeloch [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Rensselaer] Lawyer Index? I know that someone who is likely a relative was a lawyer in New York City in 1890. Is there any index of lawyers from that time? Is there any other way I could find out about him? Jane Schneeloch

I know that someone who is likely a relative was a lawyer in New York City in 1890. Is there any index of lawyers from that time? Is there any other way I could find out about him? Jane Schneeloch

Guess I should have explained my question a little better. I believe that my Great Great Grandmother returned to England about 1870ish and was wondering if there are passenger lists for those going back to England. I have a newspaper clipping about her in 1869 so I know she was here then. I also have burial information for her husband in 1879 who was then listed as single. I have a feeling that as a result of the happenings that were in the newpapaper that she may have returned to England. I have found several of her children in 1870 and 1880 and she is not with them. I did find a woman with her name in the 1891 census and the FreeBDM database show that same women passing on in 1910. My thought was that if I could find records of people returning to England that I would pursue this English woman more. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Jeffries Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Rensselaer] question Hi, I guess it would depend upon when the person first came to the US - there are passenger lists in books and on ancestry.com. They could have come via NYC, Philadelphia, Boston, Nova Scotia, etc. Barbara ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ A place to unsub, change your subscription, access the archives and links

In a message dated 8/17/2005 11:34:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > where would one look for records of emmigration - going back to the UK??? > That's an excellent question; I never thought about it. Since we're not like Germany under Hitler and Russia under Stalin, I would think that all you would need would be a passport to travel which I think comes from the Secretary of State and may be dealt with through the County Clerk. I'm going to be in the State Library today and I'll ask somebody and get back to you. Marie

Hi, I guess it would depend upon when the person first came to the US - there are passenger lists in books and on ancestry.com. They could have come via NYC, Philadelphia, Boston, Nova Scotia, etc. Barbara ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

where would one look for records of emmigration - going back to the UK??? thanks, Pam

> > >where would one look for records of emigration - going back to the UK??? > It really doesn't matter what county the person originates from, people from all countries are included in the same naturalization records. If you want a list all all records from Rensselaer County, check out this website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/naturalization/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

dave rinsem wrote: > > John Campbell, who may be the, son of Gilbert and Mary Campbell > married Abigail Bonesteel , daughter of Peter and Abigail Bonesteel > Regards > Dave > Hi again Pat, > Gilbert and Mary are definately not the parents of this John Campbell > but I will keep looking and inform you when I find them. Regards Dave >> >> > > > >