Hi, Does anyone out there know if EZEKIAH and EZEKIEL are the same name? Thank you, Barbara __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Hello All: I'm posting this to the Rensselaer list, even though West Troy is Albany County, as I know many are confused as I was, as to where the proper census information lies. Below is the information for what areas are contained on the 3 microfilms for the 1855 NY Census for Albany County. I saw a few postings on this last week, and as I had the films on order, transcribed these over the weekend. I'll be doing the same with the 1865 in the next 2 weeks...stay tuned! Best Wishes, Judy Herbert 1855 New York State Census Albany County Locations Included By Microfilm Number Microfilm # 0521922 City / Town Ward Enumeration District Albany 1st Eastern " 2nd " 3rd Western " 4th Western " 4th 2nd " 5th " 6th " 7th Eastern " 8th Eastern " 8th Northern " 9th Eastern " 9th Western " 10th Western " 10th Eastern Microfilm # 0521923 City / Town Ward Enumeration District Berne 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Bethlehem 1st, 2nd Coeymans 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Guilderlands 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Knox 1st, 2nd New Scotland 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Rensselaerville 1st, 2nd & 3rd Microfilm # 0521924 City / Town Ward Enumeration District Watervliet / West Troy * 1st through 6th Westerlo 1st, 2nd *West Troy is included in the Watervliet enumeration. The 1st Watervliet E.D. includes the 1st Ward of W. Troy. The 2nd Watervliet E.D. includes the 2nd and 3rd Wards of W. Troy. The 3rd Watervliet E.D. includes the 4th Ward of W. Troy. Submitted by Judy Herbert [email protected]

Just send your request to the Society. --- [email protected] wrote: > Is there anyone on this list who goes to the > Rennselaer County Historical > Society occasionally who would be willing to copy > about 20 letters for me. > If so please contact me off list, I will pay copying > and postage > > Thank you > > Bob Farrell > [email protected] > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ > A place to unsub, change your subscription, access > the archives and links. > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

Is there anyone on this list who goes to the Rennselaer County Historical Society occasionally who would be willing to copy about 20 letters for me. If so please contact me off list, I will pay copying and postage Thank you Bob Farrell [email protected]

The Italian Genealogy Group has just added more naturalizations records for the Eastern District (include many of the NYC counties plus Long Island) plus the Brides Index for Kings, Bronx and Queens Counties. You can check them out here: http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm If you have the time, this is a great organization to help with their transcription projects. You don't have to be Italian to help. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I just posted a BLOG that will help people looking for old books, either to purchase or read on-line. http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ While you are at it check out my website for Upstate New York Genealogy. www.ny-genes.com Dick Hillenbrand

Hi Wayne, I might be interested in those too. I have never seen any of her letters, but my great grandfather a few removed was George Simmons, born in Berne, Albany Co, NY. I only have a little information on his daughter, Elisabeth, born in Rensselaerville, Albany Co, NY. in 1792 and died 1888 in Saratoga Co., NY. She married Henry McIntosh and they had several children. Can you or anyone else help? Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Simmons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: [Rensselaer] Simmons Kinfolk Newsletter >I am a direct decendant of William Simmons and Betsey Ives who moved from > New York to Ionia County in the mid 1850's. > Some time ago I received a "Simmons Kinfolk" newsletter from Marcia > Eisenberg of Fayetteville, New York and stored it away for future > reference. > When I tried to contact Marcia about 10 years ago she had either moved > away > from the address that I had or she had passed away. Either way I am > impressed with the newsletter and would like to find someone that has all > the newsletters that Marcia published to obtain a copy or I would like to > intertain the idea of purchasing the entire set of newsletters. > > If anyone can help me find a set of these news letters I would be very > appreciative of your response! > > > > Best Regards, > > Wayne Simmons > 440-796-1180 > > > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > Do you have Irish ancestors who landed, lived or passed through NY State? > Join a new list related to the history, culture and geneology of the Irish > in NY > mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe >

I am a direct decendant of William Simmons and Betsey Ives who moved from New York to Ionia County in the mid 1850's. Some time ago I received a "Simmons Kinfolk" newsletter from Marcia Eisenberg of Fayetteville, New York and stored it away for future reference. When I tried to contact Marcia about 10 years ago she had either moved away from the address that I had or she had passed away. Either way I am impressed with the newsletter and would like to find someone that has all the newsletters that Marcia published to obtain a copy or I would like to intertain the idea of purchasing the entire set of newsletters. If anyone can help me find a set of these news letters I would be very appreciative of your response! Best Regards, Wayne Simmons 440-796-1180

Connie, My ancestors were involved in St. Lawrence Church. From what I have found out from my research is it was a Catholic Church with primarily German immigrants. It is no longer a functioning church. I found the records for the church at St. Josephs Church. They were very kind there and let me go through the records. If you would like, you may contact me privately. Connie Winterton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Westcott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: [Rensselaer] Paul Yachick death notice--Troy, New York,1909 > Hello, > This is a death notice that ran in the Troy Record in Troy, Rensselaer > Co., New York and sent to me from a very kind volunteer at the Troy > Library. I'm wondering if anyone on the list happen's to know anything > about this St. Lawrence church? Was it a church that German immigrants > went to? Does it still exist? And most of all if it does still exist can a > person see their old records? > Any help much appreciated > Thanks, > Connie Westcott in NorthEast Iowa > researching YOCKSTICK and YACHICK families > > Troy Record, December 20, 1909, Page 5, Col. 6, Troy, New York > YACHICK---Died, Dec. 17, 1909, Paul, husband of Mary Yachick, father of > Mrs. Mary Goetz, Mrs. Reckner, Mrs. Behnk and William Yachick, at the > residence, 89 Fourteenth street. Funeral Tuesday afternoon at 2 o'clock; > thence to St. Lawrence's church at 2:30. Friends are invited. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > Have you added your names to the Troy Surname Roster? > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/troysurnames.html > > >

Hello, This is a death notice that ran in the Troy Record in Troy, Rensselaer Co., New York and sent to me from a very kind volunteer at the Troy Library. I'm wondering if anyone on the list happen's to know anything about this St. Lawrence church? Was it a church that German immigrants went to? Does it still exist? And most of all if it does still exist can a person see their old records? Any help much appreciated Thanks, Connie Westcott in NorthEast Iowa researching YOCKSTICK and YACHICK families Troy Record, December 20, 1909, Page 5, Col. 6, Troy, New York YACHICK---Died, Dec. 17, 1909, Paul, husband of Mary Yachick, father of Mrs. Mary Goetz, Mrs. Reckner, Mrs. Behnk and William Yachick, at the residence, 89 Fourteenth street. Funeral Tuesday afternoon at 2 o'clock; thence to St. Lawrence's church at 2:30. Friends are invited. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Go to usgenweb.com click on Rensselaer Co. Click on cemetery data Barbara --- Sandra <[email protected]> wrote: > Barbara Hello > Thank you so much for your help, at least I know > this was not a Catholic > cemetery, as I had only St. John's....would you > please look and see if you > have any Briggs or Ralston and Parker families > listed....thank you > again...sandra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Rensselaer] Schaghticoke Lutheran > Church question > > > > Hello Barbara > > I was wondering where is the Schaghticoke Luthren > Church located and do > > you have a list of those buried there...am looking > for quite a few > > families of that area...any help > appreciated...Thanks sandy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barbara Jeffries" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:16 AM > > Subject: [Rensselaer] Schaghticoke Lutheran Church > question > > > > > >> Hi, > >> I have found persons buried in the Schaghticoke > >> Lutheran Church Cemetery, but I have not found > any > >> records or info as to when that church was > founded - > >> does anyone out there know the ans. to these > >> questions? > >> > >> Thankyou, > >> Barbara > >> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________ > >> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > >> http://farechase.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > >> Have you added your names to the Troy Surname > Roster? > >> > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/troysurnames.html > > > > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > > The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ > > A place to unsub, change your subscription, access > the archives and links. > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > Check out the AHGP Rensselaer County genealogy > website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/ > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

Barbara Hello Thank you so much for your help, at least I know this was not a Catholic cemetery, as I had only St. John's....would you please look and see if you have any Briggs or Ralston and Parker families listed....thank you again...sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Rensselaer] Schaghticoke Lutheran Church question > Hello Barbara > I was wondering where is the Schaghticoke Luthren Church located and do > you have a list of those buried there...am looking for quite a few > families of that area...any help appreciated...Thanks sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Jeffries" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:16 AM > Subject: [Rensselaer] Schaghticoke Lutheran Church question > > >> Hi, >> I have found persons buried in the Schaghticoke >> Lutheran Church Cemetery, but I have not found any >> records or info as to when that church was founded - >> does anyone out there know the ans. to these >> questions? >> >> Thankyou, >> Barbara >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. >> http://farechase.yahoo.com >> >> >> ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== >> Have you added your names to the Troy Surname Roster? >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/troysurnames.html > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ > A place to unsub, change your subscription, access the archives and links.

FYI For those of you who are new to Irish research. Ireland is like no other place on earth as far as Land records go and the Civil divisions of authority WWW.saunruad.com Is a site on the web that can explain. ================ Back in 1960's this finding a place name on a tombstone is not so new. In 1816 at the death of a man from Ireland my ancestor. Oldest of his family. Someone of his family put born Tunien, County Cavan, Ireland. Which is correct. Do not make the mistake of turning in around to read Cavan County which is correct for Ireland only. Every other place I have done research is the same or similar to the US system. Even in LA, California there are townships which divides up our rural/farm area. Townland is a smallest division of Land and is also the address of the rural area. Tunien , Townland where he lived in Ireland. Now there can be more places by the same name in the same County in every county. So how do they tell the difference. In the size of the place. Now that is not in the books but learned by hard experience. ============== Back to the first example, Name of person, birth place Tunien, County Cavan , Ireland. Place of Death Argyle , Washington County, New York. Please note the difference. I paid attention to it and just took a photo of it for recording my notes. Being "A Catholic Cemetery" has not much to it as I have found. They do not use the the Catholic Parishes in Ireland as names of places. The only good the Catholic Parish is any Good is when you look to The Catholic Church Records. ============== The leavels of Government divisions you need to find a place Townland, Civil Parish, County, and Provence. The Civil Parish has nothing for any church, as the name says it is a Civil Parish now that ought to make it clear enough for anyone. ================= Divisions of Land and Goverment. Townland , County , Civil Parish , Poor Law Union, and Province. These are what Ireland uses, just forget what you think is correct, and use these. It will save you so much grief. And if you make a Sur Name it will help you from looking so ignorant. Ignorant is just something you did not pay any attention to. In this case here anyone who know will see you got your records from some one else's hard work and research stolen. Even if you source your information as From "so and so" and it is not the original source which is what you should have when you source your information. How else are you going to have others find the source and they can find your pedigree proven with no questions asked. =============== Now that is "Old School" as you can get. Now "New School" is to take the information you find on the Internet and use it as you please. Then you are just a name collector and not a Genealogist. Use the computer as a tool to find, and not a source tool. ================= Am I old school yes.... I learned to do it the hard way with research and hard work. Did I stay old school yes..... but I learned and was self taught to use the computer and do the research. There are plenty of good web sites and paid subscriptions site that can help you find items. Use them to find and some mim of proof. The Census how has in index but not every name as is claimed. I have found three that are not in them..... Contact the Company and let them know, what you find and fell thru the net then will be added to the index. They depend on the user a lot for that. If you have any questions please contact me at my email address. " Marcus" I am here fm ================ If you see Pat Connor information on the web use the photo as first hand information, because it is just as old school as you can get. There may be a mistake in it, but it is not Pat's. That would be who ever had the stone made or the maker of the stone. For the rest of you Mr. Conner is doing you a great favor it what he is doing. And although the records have nothing to do with my research. Mr. Pat Conner , I thank you for your dedication to your craft, all others should take notice and follow suite. fm

Go to the Rensselaer Co. web page and you will find the cemetery list which includes Schaghticoke Lutheran. Barbara --- Sandra <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Barbara > I was wondering where is the Schaghticoke Luthren > Church located and do you > have a list of those buried there...am looking for > quite a few families of > that area...any help appreciated...Thanks sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Jeffries" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:16 AM > Subject: [Rensselaer] Schaghticoke Lutheran Church > question > > > > Hi, > > I have found persons buried in the Schaghticoke > > Lutheran Church Cemetery, but I have not found any > > records or info as to when that church was founded > - > > does anyone out there know the ans. to these > > questions? > > > > Thankyou, > > Barbara > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > > Have you added your names to the Troy Surname > Roster? > > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/troysurnames.html > > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ > A place to unsub, change your subscription, access > the archives and links. > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

Hi Marie, How are things in your neck of the woods? Thanks for the info, but I need the 1700's and earlier than 1829. Barbara --- [email protected] wrote: > Barbara: > > According to Becky Rector's book that church merged > with Grace Lutheran of > Speigletown; there are records from 1829 to 1959 and > they are in the possession > of Chris Kelly, Town Historian. (She lists it as > St. John's Lutheran Church, > Speigletown, which is in the Town of Schaghticoke.) > > Marie > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ > A place to unsub, change your subscription, access > the archives and links. > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

With thanks to John and Nancy on the Stow/Stowe-L list and Warren Wetmore on the Haviland-L list, I am repeating this with their permission. FHL Books Online at BYU The following is an article about online books that I just received. The message is incredibly cool! You can go to the Brigham Young University website http://www.lib.byu.edu/ and do searches of over 5000 books which the Family History Library has put online.* ... the LDS Family History Library has announced that it has begun the process of digitizing and making available on the Internet all of the Family History books in their collection. These are primarily books in the "929.273Series" that are currently housed on the first floor of the Family History Library (previously housed on the fourth floor of the Joseph Smith Memorial Building). At the present time (September 2005), about 5000 books have been digitized and are available, and they have announced that they are adding about 100 titles a week to the on-line collection. Copyright issues are playing a role in determining the order in which they progress through this task; books out of copyright are being done first. As these Family History books are digitized and placed on-line, an entry is being placed in the Family History Library on-line catalog with a hyperlink to the digitized image. By going to the FHL On-Line Catalog, you can search for a specific name, find a book that has been indexed using the name, and view it on-line, flipping through the pages as separate "pdf" images, much the same as if you were on the first floor of the Family History Library. = Of course, the indexing that is available through the FHL Catalog is only as good as the human indexers made it; typically they only include the "top" 4 to 6 names that appear in each book in their indexing efforts. But there is even better news! The digitized images of these Family History books are actually being stored on the electronic servers at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah.= By going directly to the BYU web site to view the images, there are several additional possibilities that provide genealogists functionality that they have never had before. You are now able to do full-text searches on each book, and on every digitized book in the collection. Now you can locate the small two-paragraph entry on Grandpa Ebenezer McGarrah that is buried in one of the Family History books that you would have otherwise never thought to look at before. This can open up a huge new possibility for extending lines, getting past brick walls, and uncovering new relatives!= How to Find The Digitized Images? Go to the web site of the Harold B. Lee Library at BYU at http://www.lib.byu.edu/ on their home page, follow the links "Find Other Materials/Electronic/On Line Collections at BYU". Click on the "Text Collections" tab and select the "Family History Archive" from the list of collections that are displayed. You would then normally want to use the "Search All" feature with the "Search Full Text" box checked, although the "Advanced Search" will allow very high-powered searches that will allow certain phrases to be searched for and other words to be used to exclude potential hits. As you make selections from the "hits" that are displayed, you will need to use the "Click Here to View Item" button near the top of the screen to display the actual image of the page. You can page through the entire document using the index displayed on the left side of the screen. Each page may be printed after being viewed. One interesting sidelight is, when you are at the first web page for the Family History Archive (the page that lets you begin a search), click on the "Browse the Collection" button. This will display every Family History book that has been digitized and is available in the collection. You can scroll through this list much the same as if you were walking up and down the stacks at the library. At the top of the first page of the search results, it displays the number of hits, which (in this case) is the number of books in the collection. If you keep track of this number, you can get a pretty good idea of how fast they are adding titles to the collection as you revisit the web site from time to time. I think you will want to visit this site often as the collection grows!" -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

During my recent visit to the Albany/Troy area of NYS, I was able to take over 500 pictures of tombstones in St Joseph's Cemetery in Troy. It is the beginning of an ongoing project to eventually, photograph the complete cemetery and other cemeteries in the area. I have indexed all the names and so far there are over 200 surnames. Since it is a Catholic cemetery and located in South Troy where many Irish emigrants settled, most of the surnames are Irish and many mention the county and/or parish in Ireland where the emigrant was born. Yesterday, I started to get the pictures on line, on the Troy section of my website, under Cemetery Inscriptions. In all, there are over 15 pages of pictures to upload and I hope to get them all up by the end of this week. If you live in the area and would like to help me with this project, write me off list. I had hoped to get the whole cemetery done but the weather didn't cooperate with my schedule. I am going back in May and will continue until I get the whole cemetery on line. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Barbara: According to Becky Rector's book that church merged with Grace Lutheran of Speigletown; there are records from 1829 to 1959 and they are in the possession of Chris Kelly, Town Historian. (She lists it as St. John's Lutheran Church, Speigletown, which is in the Town of Schaghticoke.) Marie

Not sure whether it will help but, are you familiar with the Rensselaer County Cemetery Database? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/cemetery.htm Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Rensselaer] Schaghticoke Lutheran Church question > Hello Barbara > I was wondering where is the Schaghticoke Luthren Church located and do > you have a list of those buried there...am looking for quite a few > families of that area...any help appreciated...Thanks sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Jeffries" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:16 AM > Subject: [Rensselaer] Schaghticoke Lutheran Church question > > >> Hi, >> I have found persons buried in the Schaghticoke >> Lutheran Church Cemetery, but I have not found any >> records or info as to when that church was founded - >> does anyone out there know the ans. to these >> questions? >> >> Thankyou, >> Barbara >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. >> http://farechase.yahoo.com >> >> >> ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== >> Have you added your names to the Troy Surname Roster? >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/troysurnames.html > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ > A place to unsub, change your subscription, access the archives and links.

Hello Barbara I was wondering where is the Schaghticoke Luthren Church located and do you have a list of those buried there...am looking for quite a few families of that area...any help appreciated...Thanks sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Jeffries" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: [Rensselaer] Schaghticoke Lutheran Church question > Hi, > I have found persons buried in the Schaghticoke > Lutheran Church Cemetery, but I have not found any > records or info as to when that church was founded - > does anyone out there know the ans. to these > questions? > > Thankyou, > Barbara > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > Have you added your names to the Troy Surname Roster? > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/troysurnames.html