Thank you, It may have been easy to obtain for others but not for me and it could be that I did not have the information exactly correct but I think I did pretty darn well considering what I had to go on at that time. No I don't believe I have tried the NYS Civil War Archives Records. I sent to NARA Wash. DC and they returned the paperwork to me saying no such record found or something like this. I'm on the trail of this now but still have to dig out the paper work that was returned to me from NARA. Well you made me dig. . . . . . . . I sent to NARA (Wash. DC) on FORM NATF 85 - this was back on Jan. 4, 2005 asking for Full Pension file for Porter, Claudius H. S. -Civil War-NY-Co. B 169th Reg. - Private b. abt. 1832 Mass(?) d. abt. 1864-1866 place unknown - widow claimant - Jane E. Porter - maiden name Barton (054,145)- under place where veteran lived after service I put - if he returned from the War, probably Troy, Renss. Co., NY and the form that was returned & there was a check in the box next to this statement "We did not locate a file which matches exactly the information that you provided, we did locate a pension application file for WC 54,145 for a soldier named Porter, Calvin who served in Co. B. 125th inf for the Civil War. He was b. Troy, Renss Co. NY and died Feb. 1, 1907. If this is your subject, please fill out the enclosed NATF FORM and resubmit." [dated Feb. 1, 2005] I did not resubmit. Do you have his pension file - does it refer at all or give any information in regard to his wife and her pension etc. Thank You again. Ginny On 4/7/2006 9:49:29 PM, [email protected] wrote: Hi The Record for Claudis Porter is very easy to obtain and documented. Did you try the NYS Civil War Archives Records? Claudius H S Porter Residence was not listed; 32 years old. Enlisted on 9/4/1862 at Troy, NY as a Private. On 10/6/1862 he mustered into "B" Co. NY 169th Infantry He was discharged for disability on 1/17/1863 at Camp Abercrombie, VA

Hi The Record for Claudis Porter is very easy to obtain and documented. Did you try the NYS Civil War Archives Records? Claudius H S Porter Residence was not listed; 32 years old. Enlisted on 9/4/1862 at Troy, NY as a Private. On 10/6/1862 he mustered into "B" Co. NY 169th Infantry He was discharged for disability on 1/17/1863 at Camp Abercrombie, VA

Wayne, Perhaps this has been available for quite some time, but I just found it... So in case it's of help to you: The University of Michigan has many books online relating to the history of counties within Michigan. http://www.hti.umich. <http://www.hti.umich.edu/m/micounty/>edu/m/micounty/<http://www.hti.umich.edu/m/micounty/> Nancy Barnett

looking for Phillips and Pulver for the late 1700's and early 1800/ Lucindia Wilson

I am looking for information to prove or disprove my suspicion that Charles Duane Hall is my 4th great-grandfather, father of Henry Merchant Hall. Charles Duane Hall was born 09 March 1758 in Westerly, Rhode Island and according to his Rev. War pension application, moved and settled in the Stephentown/Petersburgh/Grafton area about 1787. He appears in the 1840 census in Brunswick and is last found on the 1841 NY pensioner's list. Henry Merchant Hall was born 04 July 1787 in Rhode Island and by 1810 was living in Arlington, Vermont. By 1835 he was living in Fort Edward, NY and moved thereafter to Easton and Greenwich - dying in 1868 in Greenwich. I am trying to prove this connection and to uncover Charles Duane Hall's wife and other children. Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated! Nancy Barnett > I was just wondering what happened to all of the Rensselaer County > researchers - maybe we should do a roll call.

I am looking for any trace of the McCabe family in Rensselaer County in the 1840's. Hugh McCabe born in Ireland about 1807 and his wife Elizabeth McCabe born in Ireland?? about 1803 and their daughter Mary McCabe born March 15, 1844 in Troy? I have looked in the census records and ordered one roll of microfilm from the LDS center with no luck. I would love to get my hands on newspaper or church records but have no idea what denomination they are or if they even lived in Troy. I have the death certificate of my gg grandmother Mary McCabe Miller and it lists Hugh and Elizabeth as the parents and Troy NY as her place of birth. Death certificates are probably the least accurate as far as birth records go but so far that is all I have. If anyone has any tips please email me at [email protected] Thanks Don Karnish Omaha [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Barnett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: [Rensselaer] Re: Roll call >I am looking for information to prove or disprove my suspicion that > Charles Duane Hall is my 4th great-grandfather, father of Henry > Merchant Hall. > > Charles Duane Hall was born 09 March 1758 in Westerly, Rhode Island > and according to his Rev. War pension application, moved and settled > in the Stephentown/Petersburgh/Grafton area about 1787. He appears in > the 1840 census in Brunswick and is last found on the 1841 NY > pensioner's list. > > Henry Merchant Hall was born 04 July 1787 in Rhode Island and by 1810 > was living in Arlington, Vermont. By 1835 he was living in Fort > Edward, NY and moved thereafter to Easton and Greenwich - dying in > 1868 in Greenwich. > > I am trying to prove this connection and to uncover Charles Duane > Hall's wife and other children. Any and all assistance is greatly > appreciated! > > Nancy Barnett > > > >> I was just wondering what happened to all of the Rensselaer County >> researchers - maybe we should do a roll call. > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > Add you name to the Rensselaer County Surname Registry > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/Surnames.html > >

Hi Barb, I will have to go digging to see if I can find what I mailed in - I know I mailed it in but I can't remember what information I gave. I probably gave information similar to what I found on these websites. ----------------------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/troy169b.htm Troy 169th Regiment, Company B New York Civil War Troops Porter, Claudius H. S., Private ************************************** http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/pension4.htm Rensselaer County Pension Roll of 1885 Porter, Jane E. - Troy - widow - $8.00 - Dec. 1866 (054,145) [I think this is the certificate # you reference (054,145) and without diggin' I think I used it] --------------------------------------------- Ginny On 4/7/2006 5:33:30 PM, Barbara Denno ([email protected]) wrote: Ginny, did you go to NARA or how did you check the records. There are reference numbers in the Civil War Pension cards. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: [Rensselaer] ROLL CALL - PORTER - BARTON - GILLESPIE/GELLESPIE CLAUDIUS H. S. PORTER b: Abt. 1832 in Mass d: Bet. 1860 - 1866 in Civil War m. March 22 1850 Kingston, Ulster Co., NY JANE E. BARTON b: Abt. 1831 in New York d: Aft. 1910 in Prob. Troy, Rennselaer Co., NY [I tried for the Civil War Service Records of Claudius with negative results] Any information on this family helpful - where are they buried??? Did Alonzo Porter and Mary Gillespie/Gellespie have any children???? Children: ALONZO PORTER b: Abt. 1852 d: Aft. 1900 m. +MARY GILLESPIE b: Abt. 1851 d: Aft. 1900 JAMES H. PORTER b: Abt. 1856 d: Aft. 1910 LYDIA B. "Lidey" PORTER b: Abt. 1860 d: Aft. 1910 ------------------------- 1860 Census 2nd Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY Bottom of Page 183/Top of Page 184 871/1321 Porter Claudius, 28 M [No Occ. Given] b. Mass Jane E, 29 F b. NY Alonzo C., 8 M James H, 4 M Lydia B, 1/12, F -------------------------------------------------------- 1870 Census 7th Ward, Troy Rennselaer County NY Page 299 241/386 Porter Jane E, 36 F W b. NY Alonzo, 19 M W b. NY Hack Driver James H, 14 M W b. NY Errand Boy Lydia M, 9 F W b. NY 241/387 [don't know who they are] Clayton Marcia 33 F W b. NY Wm[?] 48 M W b. NY Steward[?] Wesley 14 M W b. NY ----------------------------------- 1880 Census Place 10th Ward, District 1, Troy, Rensselaer, New York Page Number 421A Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Jane E. PORTER Self W Female W 48 NY Keeps House NY NY James H. PORTER Son S Male W 28 NY Pedler NY NY Lydia B. PORTER Dau S Female W 20 NY Works Out NY NY ------------------------------------------------------------------- Who is this Alonzo Porter??????? This Alonzo - did he marry Mary Gillespie? Looks so see 1900! 1880 Census Place: 7th Ward, District 1, Troy, Rensselaer, New York Source: FHL Film 1254920 National Archives Film T9-0920 Page 294B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Matilda GELLESPIE Self F W W 44 NY Occ: Keeps House Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Fannie GELLESPIE Dau F S W 19 NY Occ: Works On Collars Fa: NY Mo: NY Joseph GELLESPIE Son M S W 13 NY Occ: At School Fa: NY Mo: NY Anna GELLESPIE Dau F S W 9 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY Alonzo PORTER SonL M M W 24 NY Occ: Expressman Fa: NY Mo: NY Mary PORTER Dau F M W 29 NY Occ: Works In Laundry Fa: NY Mo: NY ------------------------------------------------------ 1900 Census 1st Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY Page 10 - Division Street 61/142/235[?] Porter Jas. H. Head W M Oct. 1859 age 41 Single NY NY NY Laborer Lida B sister W F May 1862 age 38 Single NY NY NY Jane E mother W F Oct 1840 age 59 [this age can't be right she would have only been 10 when she married??]m46y [if she was m. in 1850 this should b. 50y] - Mother of 6/3 Living NY NY NY Adriance Memorial Library Poughkeepsie - Local History - Newspaper Marriages and Deaths Card File - 1826-1871 J & P E - Sat. March 30, 1850 In Kingston on the 22d by Rev. C. Shook, Claudius H. S. Porter of New York to Miss Jane E. Barton of Poughkeepsie. --------------------------------------------------------- 1900 Census 1st Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY Page 98 - 2741[?]/96/145 Porter Alonzo W M Mar 1851 age 49 m20y NY NY NY Expressman Mary Wife W F Oct 1859 age 40 m20y 0/0 NY NY NY Housework Gillespie Anna, s-i-l, W F Aug 1870 29 Single NY NY NY Housework --------------------------------------------------- 1910 Census 3rd Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY Page 98 - 6th Avenue - 1716/164/291 Porter Jane E, Head F W Wd 72 - 2/2 NY Mass NY No Occ. Lidy B., Daug F W 47 Single NY Mass NY Collar Work at Home James H., son, M W 50 Single NY Mass NY No Occ. ------------------------- My children's 4nd great grandmother, Harriet (Barton) Ferguson was a sister to Jane E.(Barton) Porter (Mrs. Claudius H. S. Porter) Ginny Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, NY

Ginny, did you go to NARA or how did you check the records. There are reference numbers in the Civil War Pension cards. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: [Rensselaer] ROLL CALL - PORTER - BARTON - GILLESPIE/GELLESPIE > CLAUDIUS H. S. PORTER b: Abt. 1832 in Mass d: Bet. 1860 - 1866 in Civil > War m. March 22 1850 Kingston, Ulster Co., NY JANE E. BARTON b: Abt. 1831 > in New York d: Aft. 1910 in Prob. Troy, Rennselaer Co., NY > > [I tried for the Civil War Service Records of Claudius with negative > results] Any information on this family helpful - where are they buried??? > Did Alonzo Porter and Mary Gillespie/Gellespie have any children???? > > Children: > > ALONZO PORTER b: Abt. 1852 d: Aft. 1900 m. +MARY GILLESPIE b: Abt. 1851 d: > Aft. 1900 > > JAMES H. PORTER b: Abt. 1856 d: Aft. 1910 > > LYDIA B. "Lidey" PORTER b: Abt. 1860 d: Aft. 1910 > > ------------------------- > 1860 Census 2nd Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY > Bottom of Page 183/Top of Page 184 > 871/1321 > Porter > Claudius, 28 M [No Occ. Given] b. Mass > Jane E, 29 F b. NY > Alonzo C., 8 M > James H, 4 M > Lydia B, 1/12, F > -------------------------------------------------------- > 1870 Census 7th Ward, Troy Rennselaer County NY > Page 299 > 241/386 > Porter > Jane E, 36 F W b. NY > Alonzo, 19 M W b. NY Hack Driver > James H, 14 M W b. NY Errand Boy > Lydia M, 9 F W b. NY > 241/387 [don't know who they are] > Clayton > Marcia 33 F W b. NY > Wm[?] 48 M W b. NY Steward[?] > Wesley 14 M W b. NY > ----------------------------------- > 1880 Census Place 10th Ward, District 1, Troy, Rensselaer, New York > Page Number 421A > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation > Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > Jane E. PORTER Self W Female W 48 NY Keeps House NY NY > James H. PORTER Son S Male W 28 NY Pedler NY NY > Lydia B. PORTER Dau S Female W 20 NY Works Out NY NY > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Who is this Alonzo Porter??????? This Alonzo - did he marry Mary > Gillespie? Looks so see 1900! > 1880 Census Place: 7th Ward, District 1, Troy, Rensselaer, New York > Source: FHL Film 1254920 National Archives Film T9-0920 Page 294B > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Matilda GELLESPIE Self F W W 44 NY Occ: Keeps House Fa: IRE Mo: IRE > Fannie GELLESPIE Dau F S W 19 NY Occ: Works On Collars Fa: NY Mo: NY > Joseph GELLESPIE Son M S W 13 NY Occ: At School Fa: NY Mo: NY > Anna GELLESPIE Dau F S W 9 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY > Alonzo PORTER SonL M M W 24 NY Occ: Expressman Fa: NY Mo: NY > Mary PORTER Dau F M W 29 NY Occ: Works In Laundry Fa: NY Mo: NY > ------------------------------------------------------ > 1900 Census 1st Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY > Page 10 - Division Street > 61/142/235[?] > Porter > Jas. H. Head W M Oct. 1859 age 41 Single NY NY NY Laborer > Lida B sister W F May 1862 age 38 Single NY NY NY > Jane E mother W F Oct 1840 age 59 [this age can't be right she would have > only been 10 when she married??]m46y [if she was m. in 1850 this should b. > 50y] - Mother of 6/3 Living NY NY NY > > Adriance Memorial Library Poughkeepsie - Local History - Newspaper > Marriages and Deaths Card File - 1826-1871 > J & P E - Sat. March 30, 1850 > In Kingston on the 22d by Rev. C. Shook, Claudius H. S. Porter of New York > to Miss Jane E. Barton of Poughkeepsie. > --------------------------------------------------------- > 1900 Census 1st Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY > Page 98 - 2741[?]/96/145 > Porter > Alonzo W M Mar 1851 age 49 m20y NY NY NY Expressman > Mary Wife W F Oct 1859 age 40 m20y 0/0 NY NY NY Housework > Gillespie > Anna, s-i-l, W F Aug 1870 29 Single NY NY NY Housework > --------------------------------------------------- > 1910 Census 3rd Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY > Page 98 - 6th Avenue - 1716/164/291 > Porter > Jane E, Head F W Wd 72 - 2/2 NY Mass NY No Occ. > Lidy B., Daug F W 47 Single NY Mass NY Collar Work at Home > James H., son, M W 50 Single NY Mass NY No Occ. > ------------------------- > My children's 4nd great grandmother, Harriet (Barton) Ferguson was a > sister to Jane E.(Barton) Porter (Mrs. Claudius H. S. Porter) > > Ginny > Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, NY > > > ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== > Add you name to the Rensselaer County Surname Registry > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/Surnames.html > >

Looking for more info on this family - my great great grandparents - thank you Johannes CIPPERLY / SIPPERLY b: December 27, 1797 in Brunswick, Rensselaer (bapt. Gilead Evangelical Lutheran Church), NY d: Bet. 1847 - 1850 in Grafton, Rensselaer, NY -- married Hanna HAYNER b: 17 December 1808 Brunswick, Rensselaer, NY d: Aft. 1880 (remarried) Children: Ezra 1829, George 1834, Jane Marie 1836 ***see below (my line), Lydia Ann 1838, Ester 1841, Susan Alida 1843, John H 1847. Johannes "John" Cipperly died before 1850/1855 - Hanna is found alone with the children on 1850 Census... there is a John Cipperly buried Bonesteel Cemetery, Grafton with a death date of 1816 (Rensselaer Co Burials website) - could be him with a transcription error on death date or tombstone was hard to read. Hanna Hayner Gilead Evangelical Lutheran Church Baptisms Center Brunsburn, Brunswick, Rensselaer, NY Item# 2715, page 124 Hanna, born 17 Dec 1808, bp. 23 Apr 1809 parents: William and Hannah sponsors: parents My Line -- *** Jane Marie Sipperly *** married John R. Bather in Troy NY June 1858 (no record found)... Bather family arrived from England 1848 and worked for the Van Rensselaer Manor as landscape gardeners. About 1858/59 Jane Marie moved with her new husband and his family to Iowa where they started a nursery and greenhouse business. -------------------------

CLAUDIUS H. S. PORTER b: Abt. 1832 in Mass d: Bet. 1860 - 1866 in Civil War m. March 22 1850 Kingston, Ulster Co., NY JANE E. BARTON b: Abt. 1831 in New York d: Aft. 1910 in Prob. Troy, Rennselaer Co., NY [I tried for the Civil War Service Records of Claudius with negative results] Any information on this family helpful - where are they buried??? Did Alonzo Porter and Mary Gillespie/Gellespie have any children???? Children: ALONZO PORTER b: Abt. 1852 d: Aft. 1900 m. +MARY GILLESPIE b: Abt. 1851 d: Aft. 1900 JAMES H. PORTER b: Abt. 1856 d: Aft. 1910 LYDIA B. "Lidey" PORTER b: Abt. 1860 d: Aft. 1910 ------------------------- 1860 Census 2nd Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY Bottom of Page 183/Top of Page 184 871/1321 Porter Claudius, 28 M [No Occ. Given] b. Mass Jane E, 29 F b. NY Alonzo C., 8 M James H, 4 M Lydia B, 1/12, F -------------------------------------------------------- 1870 Census 7th Ward, Troy Rennselaer County NY Page 299 241/386 Porter Jane E, 36 F W b. NY Alonzo, 19 M W b. NY Hack Driver James H, 14 M W b. NY Errand Boy Lydia M, 9 F W b. NY 241/387 [don't know who they are] Clayton Marcia 33 F W b. NY Wm[?] 48 M W b. NY Steward[?] Wesley 14 M W b. NY ----------------------------------- 1880 Census Place 10th Ward, District 1, Troy, Rensselaer, New York Page Number 421A Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Jane E. PORTER Self W Female W 48 NY Keeps House NY NY James H. PORTER Son S Male W 28 NY Pedler NY NY Lydia B. PORTER Dau S Female W 20 NY Works Out NY NY ------------------------------------------------------------------- Who is this Alonzo Porter??????? This Alonzo - did he marry Mary Gillespie? Looks so see 1900! 1880 Census Place: 7th Ward, District 1, Troy, Rensselaer, New York Source: FHL Film 1254920 National Archives Film T9-0920 Page 294B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Matilda GELLESPIE Self F W W 44 NY Occ: Keeps House Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Fannie GELLESPIE Dau F S W 19 NY Occ: Works On Collars Fa: NY Mo: NY Joseph GELLESPIE Son M S W 13 NY Occ: At School Fa: NY Mo: NY Anna GELLESPIE Dau F S W 9 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY Alonzo PORTER SonL M M W 24 NY Occ: Expressman Fa: NY Mo: NY Mary PORTER Dau F M W 29 NY Occ: Works In Laundry Fa: NY Mo: NY ------------------------------------------------------ 1900 Census 1st Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY Page 10 - Division Street 61/142/235[?] Porter Jas. H. Head W M Oct. 1859 age 41 Single NY NY NY Laborer Lida B sister W F May 1862 age 38 Single NY NY NY Jane E mother W F Oct 1840 age 59 [this age can't be right she would have only been 10 when she married??]m46y [if she was m. in 1850 this should b. 50y] - Mother of 6/3 Living NY NY NY Adriance Memorial Library Poughkeepsie - Local History - Newspaper Marriages and Deaths Card File - 1826-1871 J & P E - Sat. March 30, 1850 In Kingston on the 22d by Rev. C. Shook, Claudius H. S. Porter of New York to Miss Jane E. Barton of Poughkeepsie. --------------------------------------------------------- 1900 Census 1st Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY Page 98 - 2741[?]/96/145 Porter Alonzo W M Mar 1851 age 49 m20y NY NY NY Expressman Mary Wife W F Oct 1859 age 40 m20y 0/0 NY NY NY Housework Gillespie Anna, s-i-l, W F Aug 1870 29 Single NY NY NY Housework --------------------------------------------------- 1910 Census 3rd Ward, Troy, Rennselaer County, NY Page 98 - 6th Avenue - 1716/164/291 Porter Jane E, Head F W Wd 72 - 2/2 NY Mass NY No Occ. Lidy B., Daug F W 47 Single NY Mass NY Collar Work at Home James H., son, M W 50 Single NY Mass NY No Occ. ------------------------- My children's 4nd great grandmother, Harriet (Barton) Ferguson was a sister to Jane E.(Barton) Porter (Mrs. Claudius H. S. Porter) Ginny Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, NY

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"Present" My great grandfather, Thomas (O)ROURKE, came from Ireland (Co. Kerry) about 1851(?) -- 2 or 3 years before his wife came over. She was Ellen (perhpas Mary Ellen?) MAHONEY (maybe from Co. Cork). They ended up here in Iowa in 1857. Tom and Ellen were married in Ireland and had two sons there who didn't survive -- one dying from fever at age 2, the other from accidental burns from a hot water spill. They had two children in N.Y. State -- a daughter, Ellen Agness, born in 1855 and a son, Patrick James ("Peter"), born at Castleton on Hudson in Mar. 1856 -- records vary on his birth year, but he had a sister born in Iowa in Jan. 1858. I am wondering where Tom and Ellen landed in America. I haven't found any clues of their arriving at Castle Garden, so I wonder if they might have landed in Canada. Would someone on this list know of a path that would have brought them to Castleton? Some other clues: When they came to Iowa, the O'ROURKEs travelled with 3 other families -- MAHONEYs, O'CONNORs & O'KEEFEs. They may have all lived in Rensselaer County. Before coming to Iowa, they dropped the O and became ROURKEs. Theses were all farm families -- except possibly the O'Keefes who seem not to have settled in the same place here (Johnson County, Iowa). I'd appreciate any help. Good luck with your research, everyone! Janet

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If you >cannot browse the web, the following will help: > >Need to change your subscription to L, search or browse the archives, unsub from the list? >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/rensselaer.html > >REMEMBER: When replying to message you find in the digest, change the subject to reflect your message and please don't send a copy of the whole digest with your message. Delete what is not necessary, if not all of it. > > > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Question > From: > "Barbara Jeffries" <[email protected]> > Date: > Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:51:17 -0400 > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > > I was just wondering what happened to all of the Rensselaer County > researchers - maybe we should do a roll call. > Barbara > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Rensselaer] Question > From: > [email protected] > Date: > Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:05:34 EDT > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > >Roll call - I'm here researching Kemmy, Howard,O'Neill, Fitzgerald, > Keough, Reagan, Sennett (Sinnot), Fremgen, Fogarty, Hunt > >Also was wondering if anyone has heard of a limerick about the people of >Rensselaer > >Starts off something like this- Fire, fire said Mrs. McGuire, up the hill >stood Bill McGill, around the corner----------------------don't remember anymore > of it but mentions a lot of Rensselaer residents probably around the early >1900's > >Christine Fremgen > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > NOYES JONES b 1809 > From: > [email protected] > Date: > Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:08:39 EDT > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > >OK so the birth records say 1809 the tombstone says 1808. But that can >happen. > NOYES JONES parents are NOEL and Susannah ? JONES. Found in Rensselaer >Co Court Records. > By 1840 NOYES JONES is married to Susan MADISON b 1818? in MASS? they >had several children. >The last being Charles in 1854/5? > >They later moved to ILL then IOWA. > >I need marriage of Noyes and Susan Madison JONES. > >I would love to find newspaper article or obituary on NOEL JONES b 1834? in >Rensselaer Co second son of NOEL and Susan Madison JONES. HE did not make >trip to ILLinois. Family said died in NY before they left around 1855. I >have had no luck locating data. > >He was not an infant as family said he was almost of full manhood. In the >1855and 1850 census he has listed as alive. He would be teenager? > >Susi in San Diego > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > RE: [Rensselaer] Question > From: > "Wayne simmons" <[email protected]> > Date: > Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:21:21 -0400 > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > >Barbara and Rensselaer researchers, > >I have been on this list for about 1 year and have read much information >that has been interesting and sometimes helpful. Daily, I look for what is >new from this list as well as a couple other lists. At times I have >requested information and tried to share some information also. > >There are also websites of members, such as yours, that provide research >help as well as some genealogy about selected families. One of those >families is a Simmons line on your site. I have yet to find a connection to >my line but I sincerely believe they are connected somehow. > >My 3rd Great Grandfather and Grandmother have proven to be difficult to >locate their parents, my 4th Great Grandparents. The following is some >information about William Simmons and Betsey Ives (and their children) that >I have assembled from many sources, relatives and friends. If you or anyone >can help me locate my 4th Great Grandparents, I will be indebted to that >person for some time to come! > >Thanks in advance for any help that I may receive! > >Regards, >Wayne Simmons > >. William Simmons [100]1 was born on 16 Jun 1796 in Troy, Rensselaer, New >York,2 died on 4 Apr 1872 in Ionia Co., MI 3 at age 75, and was buried about >9 Apr 1872 in Balcom Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. > >General Notes: William Simmons, a farmer by occupation, had served in the >war of 1812 when a young man. His father was Scotch and his mother German. >The family moved into Rensselaer County at an early day.4 > >Noted events in his life were: > >. He served in the military Enlisted in War 1812 on 23 Aug 1814 in Sand >Lake, Rensselaer, New York.5 William mustered out at White Hall, Washington >Co., NY on October 28, 1814 because there was news of peace. The war >actually ended in 1815. >. He emigrated Rotterdam, NY in _____/_____/1826 from Sand Lake, >Rensselaer, New York.6 By 1826 William bought land in Rotterdam, >Schenectady County, NY. The NY 1835 census shows William owning 64 acres in >Rotterdam, 10 cattle, 3 horses, and 9 hogs. >. He emigrated the family to another farm in NY. in _____/_____/1836 from >Rotterdam, Schenectady, NY.7 About 1836 the Simmons family moved to >Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY and bought land for a farm. In 1850 the wheat >crops in the area were destroyed by a plague of midges. This could be why >the family moved to Michigan. >. He emigrated to Michigan in _____/_____/1852 from Wheatfield, Niagara >Co., NY..7 In 1852 the family settled on 80 acres in Berlin Twp., Ionia >County, Michigan. At some time, the State of New York awarded William >(listed as living in Portland, MI) $12 for his service in the War of 1812. >. He appeared on the Michigan census in _____/_____/1860 in Berlin Twp., >Ionia Co., MI..7 The 1860 census shows William and Betsey living with Polly >and Able and Alvira. William's farm is valued at $3,300. In 1869 William >was issued some land near Pontiac, MI for his service in the War of 1812. >He sold it to the lawyer who had obtained it for him. The 1870 census shows >William and Betsey in Berlin Twp., Ionia Co. > >William married Betsy Ives [103] [MRIN: 341691864] on 14 Mar 1815 in Sand >Lake, Rensselaer, New York.8 Betsy was born on 29 Jul 1797 in Sand Lake, >Rensselaer, New York,9 died on 24 Feb 1871 in Ionia Co., MI 10 at age 73, >and was buried about 28 Feb 1871 in Balcom Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. > >Noted events in her life were: > >. She appeared on the General Information census in _____/_____/1870 in >Berlin Twp., Ionia Co., MI..7 Her father was possibly a German soldier and >her mother was (rumored to be) a full-blooded American Indian from New York >State. The 1880 census states, however, that Betsey's parents were both >born in Vermont. Betsey married William Simmons in Rensselaer County, New >York. Her first four children, all boys, were born in that county between >1816 and 1821. The 1870 census tells us that Betsey couldn't read or write. > >Children from this marriage were: > > + 2 M i. William W. Simmons [35]1 was born on 27 Jul >1816 in Troy, New York or in Massachusetts,11 died on 11 Oct 1898 in Alaska, >Kent Co., MI. 12 at age 82, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom Cem., >Ionia Co., MI.. > > + 3 M ii. Asa W. Simmons [36] was born on 29 Nov 1817 >in Rensselaer County, New York, died on 26 Feb 1819 in Rensselaer County, >New York at age 1, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, >__________, __________. > > + 4 M iii. George L. Simmons [37] was born on 24 Sep >1819 in Rensselaer County, New York, died on 19 May 1829 in Rensselaer Co., >NY. at age 9, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, >__________. > > + 5 M iv. Lyman Simmons [26]13, 14 was born on 13 Jul >1821 in __________, Rensselaer, New York,14 died on 15 May 1900 in Ionia, >Ionia Co., MI. 14, 15 at age 78, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom >Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. > > + 6 M v. Edward Simmons [140] was born on 4 Oct 1823 >in Rotterdam, Schenectady, NY,19 died on 6 Jan 1901 in Vergennes Twp, Kent, >Michigan 20 at age 77, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, >__________, __________. > > + 7 F vi. Huldah Ann Simmons [38] was born on 28 Aug >1825 in Schenectady Co., NY, died on 29 Sep 1844 in NY. at age 19, and was >buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, __________. > > + 8 M vii. Leonard F. Simmons [40] was born on 17 Jan >1827 in Rotterdam, Schenectady, NY, died on 24 Sep 1922 in Juliaetta, ID. at >age 95, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, >__________. > > + 9 M viii. Amos Simmons [41] was born on 14 Feb 1830 in >Schenectady Co., NY,19 died on 26 Mar 1896 in Grand Rapids, Kent Co., MI. 12 >at age 66, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Soldiers Home North Park, >Grand Rapids, Kent Co., MI.. > > + 10 M ix. Abel Jessie Simmons [42] was born on 24 May >1832 in Rotterdam, Schenectady, NY, died on 8 Jul 1914 in Berlin Twp., Ionia >Co., MI. at age 82, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom Cem., Ionia, >Ionia Co., MI.. > > + 11 F x. Polly Ann Simmons [239] was born on 9 Oct >1834 in Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY., died on 10 Aug 1911 in __________, >__________, __________ at age 76, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom >Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. > > + 12 F xi. Hester Lydia Simmons [44] was born on 1 Sep >1837 in Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY., died on 2 Nov 1901 in Ionia, Ionia >Co., MI. at age 64, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom Cem., Ionia >Co., MI.. > > + 13 F xii. Eunice Maria Simmons [45] was born on 22 Jan >1840 in Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY., died on 22 Nov 1918 in Ionia, Ionia >Co., MI. at age 78, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, >__________, __________. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Barbara Jeffries [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:51 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Rensselaer] Question > >I was just wondering what happened to all of the Rensselaer County >researchers - maybe we should do a roll call. >Barbara > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > >==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== >The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ >A place to unsub, change your subscription, access the archives and links. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > RE: [Rensselaer] Question > From: > "Chuck Casale \(ccasale\)" <[email protected]> > Date: > Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:34:21 -0700 > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > > >Barbara and Rensselaer researchers, >I am still out here researching. I am in California and do not get to >the Rensselaer/Albany area often. I still have relatives in the area who >have agreed to do some look ups. I also do not post often but I read >everything that comes across. I truly enjoy the history that is >presented on the list and the web sites such as Barbara's and Cliff >Lamere's among others that slip my mind at this writing. > >If I can help in any way, I will gladly do so. >Regards, >Chuck Casale > >Researching: Casale, Casazza, Biagiotti, Bianchi, Vickery, Stellar, >McNamara, Munson, Rowe, Haefele, Deer and spelling variations of the >same. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > RE: [Rensselaer] Question - Researchers > From: > "Bradford Miter" <[email protected]> > Date: > Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:57:51 -0400 > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > >Don't forget the list of researchers at the Rootsweb NYRenssalear Website: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/prores.htm > >Brad Miter > >-----Original Message----- >From: Barbara Jeffries [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:51 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Rensselaer] Question > > >I was just wondering what happened to all of the Rensselaer County >researchers - maybe we should do a roll call. >Barbara > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > >==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== >The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ >A place to unsub, change your subscription, access the archives and links. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: 3/24/2006 > > Looking for traces of Stephen Austin who I suspect wandered across into Columbia County to marry Sarah Patchen around 1768. But mostly just looking!

In a message dated 4/6/2006 8:07:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Fire, fire said Mrs. McGuire Hi! You might try this: http://www.nancykeane.com/booktalks/martin_fire.htm . There are quite a few entries on the Internet. More than likely you should be able to locate the children's book at the local library. Joseph R. Murnane Williamson, NY

Don't forget the list of researchers at the Rootsweb NYRenssalear Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/prores.htm Brad Miter -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Jeffries [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Rensselaer] Question I was just wondering what happened to all of the Rensselaer County researchers - maybe we should do a roll call. Barbara _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ A place to unsub, change your subscription, access the archives and links.

Barbara and Rensselaer researchers, I have been on this list for about 1 year and have read much information that has been interesting and sometimes helpful. Daily, I look for what is new from this list as well as a couple other lists. At times I have requested information and tried to share some information also. There are also websites of members, such as yours, that provide research help as well as some genealogy about selected families. One of those families is a Simmons line on your site. I have yet to find a connection to my line but I sincerely believe they are connected somehow. My 3rd Great Grandfather and Grandmother have proven to be difficult to locate their parents, my 4th Great Grandparents. The following is some information about William Simmons and Betsey Ives (and their children) that I have assembled from many sources, relatives and friends. If you or anyone can help me locate my 4th Great Grandparents, I will be indebted to that person for some time to come! Thanks in advance for any help that I may receive! Regards, Wayne Simmons . William Simmons [100]1 was born on 16 Jun 1796 in Troy, Rensselaer, New York,2 died on 4 Apr 1872 in Ionia Co., MI 3 at age 75, and was buried about 9 Apr 1872 in Balcom Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. General Notes: William Simmons, a farmer by occupation, had served in the war of 1812 when a young man. His father was Scotch and his mother German. The family moved into Rensselaer County at an early day.4 Noted events in his life were: . He served in the military Enlisted in War 1812 on 23 Aug 1814 in Sand Lake, Rensselaer, New York.5 William mustered out at White Hall, Washington Co., NY on October 28, 1814 because there was news of peace. The war actually ended in 1815. . He emigrated Rotterdam, NY in _____/_____/1826 from Sand Lake, Rensselaer, New York.6 By 1826 William bought land in Rotterdam, Schenectady County, NY. The NY 1835 census shows William owning 64 acres in Rotterdam, 10 cattle, 3 horses, and 9 hogs. . He emigrated the family to another farm in NY. in _____/_____/1836 from Rotterdam, Schenectady, NY.7 About 1836 the Simmons family moved to Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY and bought land for a farm. In 1850 the wheat crops in the area were destroyed by a plague of midges. This could be why the family moved to Michigan. . He emigrated to Michigan in _____/_____/1852 from Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY..7 In 1852 the family settled on 80 acres in Berlin Twp., Ionia County, Michigan. At some time, the State of New York awarded William (listed as living in Portland, MI) $12 for his service in the War of 1812. . He appeared on the Michigan census in _____/_____/1860 in Berlin Twp., Ionia Co., MI..7 The 1860 census shows William and Betsey living with Polly and Able and Alvira. William's farm is valued at $3,300. In 1869 William was issued some land near Pontiac, MI for his service in the War of 1812. He sold it to the lawyer who had obtained it for him. The 1870 census shows William and Betsey in Berlin Twp., Ionia Co. William married Betsy Ives [103] [MRIN: 341691864] on 14 Mar 1815 in Sand Lake, Rensselaer, New York.8 Betsy was born on 29 Jul 1797 in Sand Lake, Rensselaer, New York,9 died on 24 Feb 1871 in Ionia Co., MI 10 at age 73, and was buried about 28 Feb 1871 in Balcom Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. Noted events in her life were: . She appeared on the General Information census in _____/_____/1870 in Berlin Twp., Ionia Co., MI..7 Her father was possibly a German soldier and her mother was (rumored to be) a full-blooded American Indian from New York State. The 1880 census states, however, that Betsey's parents were both born in Vermont. Betsey married William Simmons in Rensselaer County, New York. Her first four children, all boys, were born in that county between 1816 and 1821. The 1870 census tells us that Betsey couldn't read or write. Children from this marriage were: + 2 M i. William W. Simmons [35]1 was born on 27 Jul 1816 in Troy, New York or in Massachusetts,11 died on 11 Oct 1898 in Alaska, Kent Co., MI. 12 at age 82, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. + 3 M ii. Asa W. Simmons [36] was born on 29 Nov 1817 in Rensselaer County, New York, died on 26 Feb 1819 in Rensselaer County, New York at age 1, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, __________. + 4 M iii. George L. Simmons [37] was born on 24 Sep 1819 in Rensselaer County, New York, died on 19 May 1829 in Rensselaer Co., NY. at age 9, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, __________. + 5 M iv. Lyman Simmons [26]13, 14 was born on 13 Jul 1821 in __________, Rensselaer, New York,14 died on 15 May 1900 in Ionia, Ionia Co., MI. 14, 15 at age 78, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. + 6 M v. Edward Simmons [140] was born on 4 Oct 1823 in Rotterdam, Schenectady, NY,19 died on 6 Jan 1901 in Vergennes Twp, Kent, Michigan 20 at age 77, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, __________. + 7 F vi. Huldah Ann Simmons [38] was born on 28 Aug 1825 in Schenectady Co., NY, died on 29 Sep 1844 in NY. at age 19, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, __________. + 8 M vii. Leonard F. Simmons [40] was born on 17 Jan 1827 in Rotterdam, Schenectady, NY, died on 24 Sep 1922 in Juliaetta, ID. at age 95, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, __________. + 9 M viii. Amos Simmons [41] was born on 14 Feb 1830 in Schenectady Co., NY,19 died on 26 Mar 1896 in Grand Rapids, Kent Co., MI. 12 at age 66, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Soldiers Home North Park, Grand Rapids, Kent Co., MI.. + 10 M ix. Abel Jessie Simmons [42] was born on 24 May 1832 in Rotterdam, Schenectady, NY, died on 8 Jul 1914 in Berlin Twp., Ionia Co., MI. at age 82, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom Cem., Ionia, Ionia Co., MI.. + 11 F x. Polly Ann Simmons [239] was born on 9 Oct 1834 in Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY., died on 10 Aug 1911 in __________, __________, __________ at age 76, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. + 12 F xi. Hester Lydia Simmons [44] was born on 1 Sep 1837 in Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY., died on 2 Nov 1901 in Ionia, Ionia Co., MI. at age 64, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in Balcom Cem., Ionia Co., MI.. + 13 F xii. Eunice Maria Simmons [45] was born on 22 Jan 1840 in Wheatfield, Niagara Co., NY., died on 22 Nov 1918 in Ionia, Ionia Co., MI. at age 78, and was buried _____/_____/_____ in __________, __________, __________. -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Jeffries [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Rensselaer] Question I was just wondering what happened to all of the Rensselaer County researchers - maybe we should do a roll call. Barbara _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ==== NYRENSSE Mailing List ==== The NYRENSSE Mailing List Website http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/ A place to unsub, change your subscription, access the archives and links.

OK so the birth records say 1809 the tombstone says 1808. But that can happen. NOYES JONES parents are NOEL and Susannah ? JONES. Found in Rensselaer Co Court Records. By 1840 NOYES JONES is married to Susan MADISON b 1818? in MASS? they had several children. The last being Charles in 1854/5? They later moved to ILL then IOWA. I need marriage of Noyes and Susan Madison JONES. I would love to find newspaper article or obituary on NOEL JONES b 1834? in Rensselaer Co second son of NOEL and Susan Madison JONES. HE did not make trip to ILLinois. Family said died in NY before they left around 1855. I have had no luck locating data. He was not an infant as family said he was almost of full manhood. In the 1855and 1850 census he has listed as alive. He would be teenager? Susi in San Diego