This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1265.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: could be mistakes on either document. you must send for documents. stempf is not a common name and she was born in ny and died in florida where you said john retired to