In a message dated 11/06/2004 6:05:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, ny2obx@aol.com writes: Where would I look for her birth cert if I can't find it in Bklyn? I have researched this twice at NYC Municipal Archives with no luck. Thanks Mark I would look in the town in the immediate area of the parish in which she was baptised. It was traditional in those days that the first time the baby left its birthplace was to go to the church for its baptism and that was as soon as possible after birth (to minimise the possibility of it dying unbaptised) Women often went "home to mother" to give birth or if that was not possible to some supportive female usually a relative and if that was at some distance from where they lived that often was where the baptism took place. GmCC