The U.S. Department of Social Security states on their website that they will forward mail to those with Social Security numbers, who are alive. They use the person's SSN to track them through employment. In this instance, someone born in 1908, is probably deceased, but she still should have had her own Social Security number after 1953. Collect her birth, baptismal, and marriage certificates, names of her parents, places of all these vital records replated to her. Then, I recommend going in person to a Social Security Office, and show them everything you have. At least they can give you her last known surname, and date and place of death. I once had to go there to correct a record, as my long deceased grandmother's surnames, maiden and married, were reversed. Barb Metro NYC Researcher ==================== cosette.58@hotmail.com writes: > Hi Everyone, > I am still trying different ways to find a death record for my > grandmother. She divorced my grandfather in 1953 and was not heard from by any of her > kids ever again. Since she was only 45 years old then and I am not able to > find her by her maiden name or her married name, I am assuming she > remarried. She divorced in FL. and apparently was living in Jacksonville at that > time. I believe she made trips back and forth to NY, since she had family > there. > I have tried MANY ways to find her, but I have had no success. I've tried > doing a first name only with her d.o.b. without any success. I know I have > to look for a few years prior and a few years past her birth year, but I > wondered if also I should look for d.o.b. with different months and days. So > her d.o.b. is 28 Jul 1908, should I look for dates other than Jul 28th? I > have looked for this date with 1907, 1906, 1909, 1910. > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Liz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MLMullan Surnames: Bricknell, Tracey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4401.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for both posts. I am particularly intrigued by the fact that Rose stayed with an aunt in New York when she first arrived. The name and date fits. I had no idea why Rose went to New York, while her brother (my grandfather) settled in Toronto. Now, I know. She was going to be with family. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MLMullan Surnames: Bricknell, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4401.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for both posts. I am particularly intrigued by the fact that Rose stayed with an aunt in New York when she first arrived. The name and date fits. I had no idea why Rose went to New York, while her brother (my grandfather) settled in Toronto. Now, I know. She was going to be with family. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MLMullan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4401.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for both posts. I am particularly intrigued by the fact that Rose stayed with an aunt in New York when she first arrived. The name and date fits. I had no idea why Rose went to New York, while her brother (my grandfather) settled in Toronto. Now, I know. She was going to be with family. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kev1709 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4143.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: These hospitals are constantly under attack for mistreatment and malpractice I'm not surprized to find it difficult to Antwon any information on patents. I to have a grandmother that had some kind of breakdown and had to leave my father her only relative with a friend. After a few months in the SYSTEM she was transferred to another hospital and never heard from again. This was in the early 1940s when my father was a child and he has been looking with no luck since Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Everyone, I am still trying different ways to find a death record for my grandmother. She divorced my grandfather in 1953 and was not heard from by any of her kids ever again. Since she was only 45 years old then and I am not able to find her by her maiden name or her married name, I am assuming she remarried. She divorced in FL. and apparently was living in Jacksonville at that time. I believe she made trips back and forth to NY, since she had family there. I have tried MANY ways to find her, but I have had no success. I've tried doing a first name only with her d.o.b. without any success. I know I have to look for a few years prior and a few years past her birth year, but I wondered if also I should look for d.o.b. with different months and days. So her d.o.b. is 28 Jul 1908, should I look for dates other than Jul 28th? I have looked for this date with 1907, 1906, 1909, 1910. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Liz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LarsSnith Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4400.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No worries! :-) But I'm Lars, Joel is the guy who made the work for me. Take care you too! Lars Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gravelady2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4400.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joel Hope you did not take my joking the wrong way. I fully understand your problem and have run across it many, many times. Swedish records are wonderful. I have been working on my mom's side of the family for 30 years in the US and still have brick walls. My dad's Swedish side took me 1 year (they were from Oland). Don't give up yet. I find the directories and state census records to be very helpful when I cannot find people I want on the Federal Census. Take Care Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

It would really help if our subject lines had a surname or two in them and maybe a hint of what is wanted. When you get many mailing list digests, you decide what to read based on the list at the top of the digest. When there are no clues as to the contents, then I usually delete the whole thing without reading because it takes too long to scroll through deciding if I can help. Elizabet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LarsSnith Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4400.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nope. And I tried all permutations I could think of. Which is why I placed a question here to find out if there are any resources I had not yet tried. But in view of the next answer I obviously had not tried hard enough. Possibly I am spoiled by Swedish registers. I will make sure to look harder next time. Thanks and Best regards, Lars Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoelWeintraub Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4400.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: by the way Lars, On the 1940 Census there is a Florence Shelgren, widowed, with children Roger age 12 and June age 9... living now in Brooklyn NY. Good luck.... Joel Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoelWeintraub Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4400.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lars, You have to learn that "less is more" and to "relax assumptions" when searching the name index of any census. So..... on Ancestry I elect to search the 1930 census.... pick "exact" for my choices.... which are born 1905 in Sweden, located in "New York City (All Boroughs)..... and use wild cards ... Gust*. No last name and no other information. Now, if you do the above, you will see only 23 hits. Let's look at any that are in Queens..... and any name that even comes close to a something green.... Hmmmm.... what about Gustas Shelgren on the results..... .... right borough and right birth year and place for head of family. So you click on view record....and see 3 people, with Florence as spouse age 22, Roger with the age of 22 .... hmmmmm... who is Roger.... So I checked your 1925 census to see if your Gus had a brother Roger the same age...but no..... Would you have stopped there? No, you must relax your assumptions, one of them is that Ancestry is correct with their transcription....so we click on view original record and are at ED 41-536 (Ancestry drops the prefix), Sheet 14B (image 25 of 32) and discover that Roger is a son and is actually 2 2/12 years old. Gustav? is a carpenter. I'm willing to bet that this is your missing family member. Joel Weintraub Dana Point, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gravelady2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4400.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Are you kidding :) There could be a hundred reasons why you are not able to find them in the 1930 census...The suname name alone is trouble enough. There a number of ways that a transcriber can mess up that name and misinterpret the spelling. Try doing a soundex search or think of the many ways that your surname could be spelled. The name Gustave could be spelled several ways also. If the index you are using gives you "advanced mode/search" try using just the first name, residence place, age and birthplace of Gus and leave out the surname and see what emerges. You might not be able to find them if you are using ancestry.com verses familysearch.org. Familysearch.org has (in my opinion), a much better index search. I have more success with them than ancestry. If you are trying to use Heritagequest.com their index is not complete. It could be that they just were not enumerated for what ever reason or maybe they are in a place that you do not expect them to be. In other words a researcher needs to think outside of the box when they cannot find their ancestor in these situations. Good Luck to you and hope you find your person. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LarsSnith Surnames: Kjellgren Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4400/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! The Kjellgren family arrives in 1922 (most of them) and can be found in the census of Queens, New York for the years 1925/1930/1940: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1925NYStateCensus&h=21665843&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&tid=34981398&tpid=18730186858&rhSource=6224 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&h=45262463&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=gr_t34981398_p18730186858_ktidz0q3d34981398z0q26pidz0q3d18730186858z0q26hidz0q3d41592659361z0q26dbidz0q3d6224z0q26rpidz0q3d45262463z0q26ssrcz0q3dgrz0q26pgz0q3d32799z0q252c32842z0q26pgPLz0q3dtidz0q257cpidz0q257chidz0q257cdbidz0q257crpidz0q257cssrcz0q26pgPSz0q3d18730186858_h41592659361 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1940usfedcen&h=7374599&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&tid=34981398&tpid=18730186858&rhSource=6224 As you can see, the son Gus (full name Gustav Emanuel) is only present in the census for 1925. Looking into this and talking to relatives I have found his death date, Sep 25th 1933 in New York, using Stephen Morse's site, he is named "Kjellegren": http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeathresults.html?Esurname=kjellgren&Efirst=&kind=sounds&EnterSoundexCode=K426&County=Queens&cert=&age1=&age2=&unit1=4&unit2=4&StartYear=&EndYear=&month=&day=&birth1=&birth2=&pgsz=100&auth=&time=1339448073478&host=www.italiangen.org I also know he married sometime between 1925 and some years before his death, there were two children (may still be alive), Roger and June. My question is, why am I unable to find this family in the 1930 census? Is there a way to find the marriage record? Suggestions welcomed! Best regards, Lars Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: metaphor Surnames: Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4216.46.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Attached is a scan of the QUEENS Winter 1930-31 Telephone Directory p227, encompassing surnames HETZLER through HIGGINS, including HICKEY. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JLDrennan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4216.43.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks so much! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: metaphor Surnames: Drennan, Drennan Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4216.43.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: page 138 Drennan Agnes L 92-44 55th av Elmhs ... HA vemyr 4-4988 Drennan Nicholas T 94-27 53d av ... NE wtn 9-1248 Drennan Wm 114-68 176th St Albns ... JA maica 6-4514 Drennen Anna Mrs 3120-92d Jksn Hts ... PO meroy 6-2091 drennen Lillian Miss 141-82d Jksn Hts ... HA vemyr 4-10176 Drennen Thos W 3532-92d Jksn Hts ... PO meroy 6-0051 Drennen Wm R 53-18 39th pl LIC ... ST ilwel 4-5811 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GAILMARIENETTLE Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4216.46/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for Patrick Hickey in Queens. He lived with his wife Margaret, son Joseph, and daughters Charlotte & Florence. Thank You! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BobNY Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4399.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: "I looked through their website, and I believe it states that they do not hold any archives of records and that you have to contact the Archidiocese.' It's just the opposite. Virtually all sacramental records for parishes of the Archdiocese of NY are at the parish level. Merged and closed parish records remain with the successor parish. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nconway567 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.queens/4399.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I looked through their website, and I believe it states that they do not hold any archives of records and that you have to contact the Archidiocese. Yes, ordering docs from the NY Archives is expensive, especially when you need to do a multiyear search! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.