This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1269.1 Message Board Post: On 12/19/04 (7:55:43 PM MST), in a posting to the Queens County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com, Janet Wood (gigagirl@comcast.net) asked, "Jospeh Wood of Oyster Bay in the mid/late 1700's to early 1800's was elected as "pounder" for a district in his town. Just what was a Pounder? Also a "Fence Viewer" - that one I can probably take an educated guess at, but would like the definitive answer." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Oyster Bay Historical Society and the Oyster Bay-East Norwich Public Library: The Oyster Bay Historical Society P.O. Box 297 20 Summit Street Oyster Bay, NY 11771-0297 Tel: 516/922-5032 Fax: 516/922-6892 eMail: OBHistory@aol.com http://members.aol.com/OBHistory/ Oyster Bay-East Norwich Public Library 89 East Main Street Oyster Bay 11771 Tel: 516/922-1212 Fax: 516/922-6453 eMail: ??????? http://www.nassaulibrary.org/oysterbay/index.html Oyster Bay is one of those communities on Long Island where the majority of the places with an Oyster Bay mailing address are not in Oyster Bay, and it is important to know that there are 3 "Oyster Bays" (from smallest to largest, in order of acreage): 1. There is the Hamlet of Oyster Bay = 763 acres 2. There is the Oyster Bay, NY 11771 postal zone = 7,002 acres 3. There is the Town of Oyster Bay = 70,908 acres The pertinent geography: Oyster Bay is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the northern most part of the Town of Oyster Bay, in the northeast part of Nassau County. There are 18 villages (municipal corporations) and 18 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Oyster Bay in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by Oyster Bay Harbor, on the east by the Village of Oyster Bay Cove, on the south by the Hamlet of East Norwich and on the west by the Village of Upper Brookville and the Village of Mill Neck. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Oyster Bay has a different border than does the "Oyster Bay, NY 11771" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an Oyster Bay mailing address and not be in Oyster Bay). ...........................................acres ...Hamlet of Oyster Bay............763 ...Oyster Bay, NY 11771........7,002 ...Town of Oyster Bay..........70,908 Thus, you can readily see that 9 of every 10 places with an "Oyster Bay" mailing address are NOT in the Hamlet of Oyster Bay. [These places may be in the Village of Centre Island (incorporated in 1926), the Village of Cove Neck (incorporated in 1927), the Village of Oyster Bay Cove (incorporated in 1931), the Village of Laurel Hollow (incorporated in 1926), the Hamlet of East Norwich, the Village of Muttontown (incorporated in 1931), the Village of Upper Brookville (incorporated in 1932) and the Village of Mill Neck (incorporated in 1924).] For those who have their copy of the 2003 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Oyster Bay in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1270 Message Board Post: In trying to find John Wood's father and ancestral family, I am looking at Joseph Wood who I have a reference to that he was a Quaker (or his father, Joseph Sr. was). This was in Queens Co. back in the mid 1700's. I know that John Wood and his wife/children were Methodist (early 1800's). Was is common or un-common for people to leave their religion they were brought up in (in this case, perhaps Quaker) and take on another one? I am more apt to look at possible generation connections that had the same denomination, but this one between Joseph and John looks pretty good. I'd like anyone's opinion on their experience with ancestors changing religion/denomination. Thanks, Janet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1269 Message Board Post: Jospeh Wood of Oyster Bay in the mid/late 1700's to early 1800's was elected as "pounder" for a district in his town. Just what was a Pounder? Also a "Fence Viewer" - that one I can probably take an educated guess at, but would like the definitive answer. Thanks, Janet

Try talking to family members who may know where they were buried. You can then contact the cemetery for information and obtain a death certificate. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

http://toh.li/content/tc/registrar.html You won't find town of Hempstead death records at the NYC DEPT. OF RECORDS. You need to write to the town. see link above. Kristina www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com

Trisha How do you know they immigrated in 1888? Perhaps that date isn't correct. I found this Caroline Killian on ancestry.com. She's about the right age for yours but a different immigration year: Name: Caroline Killian Arrival Date: 14 Apr 1873 Estimated Birth Year: 1853 Age: 20 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Destination: United States of America Place of Origin: Germany Ship Name: Calabria Port of Arrival: New York Line: 27 Microfilm Roll: 373 List Number: 280 Lisa * * * * Lisa Thompson TAC Angel #482 - http://www.geocities.com/lisajtMO/gallery. html "The ornaments of our house are the friends that frequent it." ~ Emerson

Trisha, Have ypu tried you local Family History Center. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trisha Fitz Randolph" <FitzRandolphGenealogy@adelphia.net> To: <NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:28 PM Subject: [QUEENS] looking for my ancestors > Hi, I am new to your list. > I am looking for my gg grandparents who lived in Queen's from 1900 to > 1921. There names were Charles Killian and his wife Carolina Killian, and > they lived at 5076 Jamaica Ave, upstairs from a Tavern they ran, that > might have been called Kilians > In the 1920 NY census, they are both shown as Charles being 60 and > Carolina being 70, by 1930, Carolina had died and Charles had moved to > Hempstead. I have written to the NY Dept of records and had them search > for Carolina's death date in hopes of finding it and maybe knocking down > some brickwalls but they did not find her in 1920,1922.1925.1927.1929. > Charles (who also went by Carl/Karl) and Carolina (also went by Lena) came > to the US from Germany in 1888, but to date we have not found them on a > ship's list. > > Can anyone help ? I am open to any suggestions ! > > > Trisha Fitz Randolph > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi, I am new to your list. I am looking for my gg grandparents who lived in Queen's from 1900 to 1921. There names were Charles Killian and his wife Carolina Killian, and they lived at 5076 Jamaica Ave, upstairs from a Tavern they ran, that might have been called Kilians In the 1920 NY census, they are both shown as Charles being 60 and Carolina being 70, by 1930, Carolina had died and Charles had moved to Hempstead. I have written to the NY Dept of records and had them search for Carolina's death date in hopes of finding it and maybe knocking down some brickwalls but they did not find her in 1920,1922.1925.1927.1929. Charles (who also went by Carl/Karl) and Carolina (also went by Lena) came to the US from Germany in 1888, but to date we have not found them on a ship's list. Can anyone help ? I am open to any suggestions ! Trisha Fitz Randolph

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1248.3 Message Board Post: Michelle, I have quite a bit of info for you. Nicola Maria Adago was born on may 18, 1895. Her father's full name was Paolo Luigi Giovanni Adago who was born in Potenza, Italy. Her mother was Isabella Salatti. They married on Aug. 18, 1881. I have copies of the wedding certificate. I only know of 8 children born to Isabella in Italy. Others may have been born here. In Ferrandina, Italy They had : 1. Roasario Antonio b. 1883 2. Francesco Paolo b. 1885 3. Giuseppe Onofrio b. 1887 4. Francesco Paolo b. 1888 5. Archimede Emanuelle b. 1891 6. Maria Gerarda b. 1893 7. Nicola Maria b. 1895 8. Carmela b. 1897 d. 1898 As someone previously pointed out, only Rosario, Archimede, Maria Gerarda, & Nicola Maria came to the US in 1902. I have more info. If you would like it just e-mail me. Tom Adago

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Miller, Steigler, Kerr Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1267.1.1 Message Board Post: I don't know about Plantations, but we have a picture of my husbands great grandparents on their farm circa 1900 at what is now Steinway St. and Astoria Blvd. in Astoria, Queens. Brenda

Stefanie, I grew up on the block with the Insurance building on it, Poplar St. About a block down. Matzoh-Pizza is still a great town. Tony

http://www.attictrinkets.com/xemail/xemail.html Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net "All my life, I've done for you. Now it's my turn to do for me." (from the Red Hat Society theme song)

I grew up on Long Island in Massapequa part of the Town of Oyster Bay. What I remember is woods everywhere. Especially pine trees with their sap that used to get caught in my hair. ugh. There were 5 houses on my block. 2 of which had been there before my father built our house. About 6 streets from our house was my grandparents farm. These streets were nothing but dirt tracks that people walked and drove thru the woods. By the time I walked between our house and theirs my shoes had been emptied of sand many times. Then it seemed to me one day I walked outside in the mid 1950's and the woods were gone with all these really big holes in the ground everywhere. It didn't take long for the houses to be built and the roads to be paved. In 1957/8 I started kindergarten in a brand newly built elementary school down the street. Gone was the country and now the neighborhood was known as Matza-Pizza since those houses were sold to mostly Jewish and Italian families. I see the pictures of when my father grew up on his father's farm which was on Delaware Av. Nothing around for miles. My father and grandfather used to go hunting in the woods. There was a small gas station and grocery store on the corner of what I think now is called Linden Street. Back then it was just the old geezers place. Today there is an small insurance company building next to a large gas station. When I visit out there it's like culture shock. Although on Delaware Av my grandparents house is still there. Everything else is different. Those 2 other houses that were on our block were large houses and plenty of property. They were bought and devoured by developers with 2 and 3 houses built in their place. Even my parents house was totally renovated and went from a cape cod style to some scary contemporary looking thing. Their large property was also divided with another house built on it. So much for plantations :-) Stefanie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.8 - Release Date: 12/8/2004

With the permission of the author, Marge Spears-Soloff (MSpearssol@aol.com), I'm re-posting the following from NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com: The following pages were updated on HNOH Welcome-Jewish Orphanages in the United States at http://www.hnoh.com Memorial Page The following names were added: Mendel "Manny" Bergman, March 7, 2004 Gerald Goldstone, March 29, 1985 Sidney "Sid" Sherer, August 31, 2004 Morris Silverberg, November 29, 2004 Alumni Reunion Page New inquiries were added. Please check out this page, someone might be looking for you. Federal and State Census Page Two Federal Census Links were added for: 1900 Federal Census for The Hebrew Sheltering Guardian Society, New York, NY (853 Names) 1900 Federal Census for The Jewish Home on Church St., a/k/a The Jewish Home for Children, Philadelphia, PA (118 Names) Marge Spears-Soloff MSpearssol@aol.com Orlando, FL HNOHalumni@aol.com HNOH Welcome - Jewish Orphanages in the United States http://www.hnoh.com I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Happy Chanukah, Walter Greenspan The 8-day rabbinic Festival of Chanukah begins Tuesday night, December 7.

Wishing all a happy holiday season and for all who have given me help in my search for ancestors - Thank You. George

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1267.1 Message Board Post: On 12/13/2004 (3:02:42 PM MST), in a posting to the Queens County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com, Janet Wood (gigagirl@comcast.net) asked, "In a will I am researching, Joseph Wood refers to his property as his "plantation". Was this word commonly used to refer to ones farmland? Would the fact that Joseph uses this word give any clues as to his status, origin, etc.? I just find it an odd choice of words and have not come across this term before in my research of Queens Co. families. He wrote his will in 1796. He lived in Oyster Bay Township." There most likely were plantations in all part so of Long Island, which at that time included Kings, Queens and Suffolk Counties. Since January 1, 1899, the Town (not township) of Oyster Bay has been in Nassau County as on January 1, 1899, the eastern three-quarters -- the Towns of North Hempstead, Hempstead and Oyster Bay -- of Queens County seceded and formed Nassau County. For questions such as yours, you may want to check with Long Island Studies Institute: Long Island Studies Institute West Campus Library Hofstra University 619 Fulton Avenue Hempstead, NY 11549-4575 Tel: 516/463-6411 Fax 516/463-6441 eMail: lisi@hofstra.edu http://www.hofstra.edu/Libraries/LISI/index_LISI.cfm You may also want to contact the Oyster Bay Historical Society and the Oyster Bay-East Norwich Public Library: The Oyster Bay Historical Society P.O. Box 297 20 Summit Street Oyster Bay, NY 11771-0297 Tel: 516/922-5032 Fax: 516/922-6892 eMail: OBHistory@aol.com http://members.aol.com/OBHistory/ Oyster Bay-East Norwich Public Library 89 East Main Street Oyster Bay 11771 Tel: 516/922-1212 Fax: 516/922-6453 eMail: ??????? http://www.nassaulibrary.org/oysterbay/index.html Oyster Bay is one of those communities on Long Island where the majority of the places with an Oyster Bay mailing address are not in Oyster Bay, and it is important to know that there are 3 "Oyster Bays" (from smallest to largest, in order of acreage): 1. There is the Hamlet of Oyster Bay = 763 acres 2. There is the Oyster Bay, NY 11771 postal zone = 7,002 acres 3. There is the Town of Oyster Bay = 70,908 acres The pertinent geography: Oyster Bay is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the northern most part of the Town of Oyster Bay, in the northeast part of Nassau County. There are 18 villages (municipal corporations) and 18 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Oyster Bay in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by Oyster Bay Harbor, on the east by the Village of Oyster Bay Cove, on the south by the Hamlet of East Norwich and on the west by the Village of Upper Brookville and the Village of Mill Neck. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Oyster Bay has a different border than does the "Oyster Bay, NY 11771" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an Oyster Bay mailing address and not be in Oyster Bay). ...........................................acres ...Hamlet of Oyster Bay............763 ...Oyster Bay, NY 11771........7,002 ...Town of Oyster Bay..........70,908 Thus, you can readily see that 9 of every 10 places with an "Oyster Bay" mailing address are NOT in the Hamlet of Oyster Bay. [These places may be in the Village of Centre Island (incorporated in 1926), the Village of Cove Neck (incorporated in 1927), the Village of Oyster Bay Cove (incorporated in 1931), the Village of Laurel Hollow (incorporated in 1926), the Hamlet of East Norwich, the Village of Muttontown (incorporated in 1931), the Village of Upper Brookville (incorporated in 1932) and the Village of Mill Neck (incorporated in 1924).] For those who have their copy of the 2003 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Oyster Bay in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Happy Chanukah, Walter Greenspan The 8-day rabbinic Festival of Chanukah begins Tuesday night, December 7. Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1267 Message Board Post: In a will I am researching, Joseph Wood refers to his property as his "plantation". Was this word commonly used to refer to ones farmland? Would the fact that Joseph uses this word give any clues as to his status, origin, etc.? I just find it an odd choice of words and have not come across this term before in my research of Queens Co. families. He wrote his will in 1796. He lived in Oyster Bay Township. Thank you, Janet Wood

I don't know when they updated the death records, but I have found records here that I haven't in the past. If you've never searched their databases, I really recommend them. I have found some death records here that really helped me chip away at those brick walls: http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeath.stm http://www.italiangen.org/NYCMarriage.stm Lisa * * * *

Bill Thanks. Yes, I check ISTG from time to time, too. Lisa * * * * Lisa Thompson TAC Angel #482 - http://www.geocities.com/lisajtMO/gallery. html "The ornaments of our house are the friends that frequent it." ~ Emerson

Lisa: You can check the Immigrant Ship Transcribers Guild online free Bill