You need to tell us exactly what research tools you have used. Apparently you have looked at a census....just one or more? Have you checked the property tax records to find out what the name of the business was? Have you asked anyone what church they went to or where they are buried? You will need a date of death for cemetery records....or should I say the date of death for someone anyone buried with them. You can then get a list of internments. There are several cemeteries in the area that may be their burial ground including Lutheran Cemetery but I don't think they will do a look up without a date of death. What is it that you really want to know? Hiring a researcher is expensive...unless they find what you want immediately. You may want to try more research on your own. If you can use a Family History Library you can access many records on microfilm. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

My gg grandparents lived in Queens from 1900-1930 at 5076 Jamaica Ave, which I understand was an apartment on top of a business they ran, it is listed in the NY census as Liquor Store and my ancestor was Charles Killian, and he was the Proprietor. Is there any way to find out the name of the store ? At one time, it was a Tavern/Restaurant, that my grandmother says had tables outside in the back for people to eat, she also thinks the name might have been "Kilians" Also, Thank you to all who tried to help me find my gg grandmothers death date..I do know that she was 70 in 1920 and was living at the above address with Charles but by 1930 Charles was a widower and had moved in with his daughter. Without a date and year of death, I cant apply for a death certificate. I do know that they were German and Lutheran. Since it is looking like I will need to hire a researcher, does anyone know of someone who has extensive knowledge of Queens ? Trisha Fitz Randolph

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1274.1.1 Message Board Post: As always George, thank you for taking the time to look. The Queens Co. Deed Libers A,B,C looks worthwhile and I will order the microfilm. Lobel's deed index I can also order on microfilm. The Gritman history of Jamacia book I will have to wait on and view at the library next time I visit. I am so close to making the connection that will hitch up to one of the Wood lines that is already well researched (and then the rest is done for me!!), but there were SO MANY John's, Joseph's, Jonas', etc. that lived in the same area and were around the same age and even married women from the same families, that it is proving very difficult to figure out who was who. And of course, the info. I find on the internet proves to be so inconsistent since people just copy 'bad' information from one another and then it becomes 'truth' just because it's been used by so many people!!! Happy Holidays!! -Janet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1274.1 Message Board Post: The index to Queens County deed libers A,B,C includes the following Wood names: Edmund, Elizabeth, George, James, Jeremiah, Jerimy, John, Jonathan, Jonas, Judith, Mary, Richard E., Rebecca, Samuel, Timothy. There are multiple entries for some of these names. Lobel's Abstracts of Deeds, Libers A-D, has 5 volumes, but is not indexed. Liber D is extensive and undoubtedly has a number of Wood real estate transactions. Possibly at one time we had Gritman's index to land records of Queens County (1903), but I don't find it now. We do have his typescript of 1921, A Documentary History of Jamaica, L. I., 1655-1800, Vol. 1. Material extends to 1721. We do not have a second volume and there is some question as to whether he ever completed Volume 2. This work uses many colonial sources including the town records. It is not indexed, but there are many land transactions in the town records abstracted by Gritman, and the Wood surname appears frequently in the 17th century when lots, meadows and woods were being laid out and eventually sold or exchanged. Among land to John Wood was a share in the southeast quarter of the "Litle playnes" (Little Plains, at current Queens Village and Bellerose near the Hempstead Town line), measured out and divided in February 1679. Deed libers and documents beginning in 1683 are in the Queens office of the City Register in Jamaica. These have all been microfilmed by the Register. The Jamaica Town Records and possibly some other early land records are in the Municipal Archives at 31 Chambers St., Manhattan. The Jamaica Town Records have been microfilmed, and the early books (to 1751) were published by the Long Island Historical Society in 1914, and the remainder of the town records thru 1897 were transcribed in a WPA project Jamaica's town records to the mid-18th century include numerous Wood entries for Hannah, James, Jeremiah, John, Jonas, Jonathan and Timothy. The later town records to 1897 include many entries for these members of the Wood family: A. M., Abraham, B. Frank, Charles, Charles H., Eldert, Frank B., George, Jacob L., John, Lewis M., Martin V., Dr. Philip M., Walter, William, William D., William L. Happy hunting.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1274 Message Board Post: George, I'm hoping you'll have a minute to look in a book at the library so that I know if it's worth ordering the microfilm. It is "Index deeds of Queens County, Long Island, Libers A,B,C, and Abstracts of deeds in the Queens County, New York Register's Officer, Libers A-D, 1683-1765 " Family History Library says they microfilmed it from Queens Co. Library. I would like to know if there are a substanial number of land transaction by the Wood family. If you could take a quick peek I'd appreciate it. Also, I viewed a microfilm from the Family History Library titled "An index to land records of Queens County, Long Island, N.Y., A-H, 1656-1903" by Charles Gritman and it had wonderful information about land transactions between Queens Co. families, but only the surnames A-H. Here is the description of what the microfilm includes: "This index covers the period from the time of the early town settlements in Queens County to about the year 1800 with many records of more recent date. It is complete as regards Libers A to H (inclusive) of Queens County conveyances in the County Clerk's Office. It includes most of the conveyances to be found in the Jamaica town records and many of those in the records of the towns of Hempstead, Flushing, Newtown, and Oyster Bay"--Charles T. Gritman. Queens County originally included parts of what are now Nassau and Suffolk Counties." As you know I am interested in the Wood surname, so this was of no help. Family History Library does indicate that they have the other libers that finish the rest of the alphabet. Do you know if Charles Gritman or another author has index the rest of the surnames, or where these original Libers are located? Thank you George and have a very Merry Christmas! -Janet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gambino - Pearson Classification: Death Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1273 Message Board Post: JANET N. (GAMBINO) PEARSON 2004-12-22 Janet N. (Gambino) Pearson, 54, of Lehigh Acres, died December 20, 2004. Formerly of Long Island, New York she had resided here for the past 15 years. Janet is survived by her husband of 13 years, Jack, 3 children: Cara DeGaetano, John and Tony DeGaetano, 6 grandchildren, 2 sisters: Luci (Bob) Armour, Jo (Joe) Hitchens, 1 brother: Tony (Val) Gambino, sister-in-law: Sandy (Jerry) Kutza, and brother-in-law: Ron Pearson. Funeral services will be held Thursday December 23, 2004 at 7:00 PM from the chapel of Lee Memorial Park Funeral Home, 12777 State Rd. 82. The family will receive friends Thursday from 5:00 PM till service time at the funeral home. Lee Memorial Park, 334-4880 I have no further information on this family. Obituary was printed in the News-Press <www.news-press.com> December 22, 2004 ========================================================= Visit new Alternative Health Web Site/On-Line Store: _www.geocities.com/IvoryTowerInstitute/index.html_ ( Lane Bryant - Bedford Fair - Cellular Factory & more) 10% of affiliate earnings are donated to Charity! ========================================================

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1272.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you both so much for your advice and replies. Good point, they came to Queens for a few years then moved back to E. 32nd Street- I 'll check city papers too!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1272.2 Message Board Post: There were only 2 major Queens County newspapers in 1938. One was the Long Island Daily Press and the other was the Long Island Daily Star, continued by the North Shore Daily Journal in Oct. 1938 (eventually this became the L. I. Star Journal in 1940). Keep in mind that many Queens families read the Brooklyn and New York City newspapers and a death notice or obituary may have been published in one or more of those newspapers. You may be able to borrow microfilm of the L. I. Press from the New York State Library at Albany NY. Check with your local public library for interlibrary loan procedures.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1272.1 Message Board Post: On 12/22/04 (5:13:47 AM MST), in a posting to the Queens County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com, Margaret (averill94@aol.com) asked, "Hello- I am pretty new to Queens County research- can anyone adv on what newspapers were most widely read in 1938? Trying to find an obituary for grandmother, Mary Caloger, died January 1938." At that time, there were many New Yor City-wide as well as Queens-wide newspapers. You may want to contact the Queens Borough Public Library: Queens Borough Public Library 89-11 Merrick Boulevard New York (Jamaica P.O.), NY 11432 Tel: 718/990-0700 Fax: 718/???-???? Contact information: http://www.queenslibrary.org/about/gen_info.asp Home page: http://www.queenslibrary.org/ Good luck. Walter Greenspan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Caloger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1272 Message Board Post: Hello- I am pretty new to Queens County research- can anyone adv on what newspapers were most widely read in 1938? Trying to find an obituary for grandmother, Mary Caloger, died January 1938. Thank you so much!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1270.1 Message Board Post: Janet- I have come across to "surprising" conversions in my own family- They were only surprises because I just assumed the family was "always" Roman Catholic when for the sake of marriages I know of these 2 conversions. I was lucky enough to catch up with newly met cousins that verbally confirmed this for me. As a matter of fact I think I have a third one! Good luck Margaret

I am posting this story as it shows how important geneaology is to medical research and hence our own health. Years ago, I started adding cause of death and other known family medical history to my data bank. You may want to do the same. Study Finds Genetic Link to Lung Cancer Tue Dec 21, 4:11 PM ET Health - Reuters CHICAGO (Reuters) - Lung cancer appears to run in families, researchers said on Tuesday, though exposure to tobacco smoke is still the dominant cause of the disease even for those who may be genetically predisposed. The strongest family link was found in the relatives of patients who developed the disease at age 60 or younger. The parents of such people had nearly a three and one-half times higher risk of also developing the disease compared to the general population, the study said. For siblings in such cases the risk was more than three times higher and for children slightly less than that. The genetic risk also extends beyond the immediate family, said the report from Landspitali-University Hospital in Reykjavik, Iceland. Aunts and uncles, cousins, nieces and nephews of lung cancer victims of any age also run a higher risk, though at lower levels than the immediate family. Lung cancer is the leading cause of cancer deaths among men and women in many Western countries, said the study, published in this week's Journal of the American Medical Association (news - web sites), and smokers comprise about 90 percent of all cases. The Icelandic researchers said they traced the genetic links by looking at all 2,756 patients diagnosed with lung cancer in the country from 1955 to 2002 and linking them with an extensive genealogical database containing all living Icelanders and most of their ancestors since the settlement of the country. "The nationwide genealogy database used in our study provided a means for uncovering the familial component by revealing more connections between patients, missed in most other populations," the study said. While the higher risk in immediate families may be related to second-hand smoke as well as genetics, it said, the higher risk found in persons outside the immediate family provides further evidence of a genetic link. "Although the results presented here support a role for genetics in the risk of lung carcinoma, it should be emphasized that tobacco smoke plays a dominant role in ... this disease, even among those individuals who are genetically predisposed," the study concluded. In another study published in the same journal, researchers in Taiwan reported that residents of that country who consumed drinking water with high levels of arsenic had a higher risk of lung cancer, with cigarette smoking adding to the risk. Arsenic, a known cancer-causing agent, occurs naturally in soil and can contaminate drinking water. The study said people living on the southwestern and northeastern coasts of Taiwan had been exposed to arsenic in high concentrations in well water before a public tap water system was established. Between 32 percent and 55 percent of lung cancer cases were estimated to be caused by the combined effect of cigarette smoking and ingested arsenic, depending on the levels of both exposures, the study said. The study came from the College of Public Health, National Taiwan University, Taipei. It covered more than 10,000 people who were tracked for eight years. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

It wasn't uncommon. I've had it in my own family lines and it's hard if the present generation refuses to acknowledge there was a change along the line. There are a lot of conversions through marriage. As for the Quakers, if a Quaker married ( or marries, if it is still the case ) outside of the religion they were dismissed for marrying contrary to doctrine. So, if your Quaker married a Methodist, look for lines through the Methodist church after the marriage. I'm doing some research not connected to my families, and I have come across a dismissal in some of the records for my volunteer research family. I hope this helps you a little. All of the Friends Meeting Houses keep and kept meticulous records and you should find a great deal of information for the party before the marriage, plus you should also find when he was dismissed, as it will be noted in their records. Helen Dee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1269.2.1 Message Board Post: Ahh! Hence our current day "dog pound"! Thanks George.

In a message dated 12/20/2004 8:08:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, evc1369@comcast.net writes: It appears that when they married they adopted the tradition of their spouse and so some are Roman Catholic, others Dutch Reformed while others belong to various other protestant traditions. It was good for us for as children we learned about and participated somewhat in the traditions of other family members especially at a time when the Roman Catholic church frowned on it and forbade attending other traditions services. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net I think that pinpoints clearly how the dominant parent in terms of religion was the mother and it is so true that "sampling" other religious practices is a benefit to gaining understanding and tolerance. Gwen M.McCullagh

I have seen a goodly amount of my family members changing affiliations after they came to this country especially when they married someone of another tradition. My paternal great grandparents were Roman Catholics but after she died and he remarried and had more children those children were raised in the Lutheran tradition. 2 of my half great uncles married woman who were Episcopalian and they raised their children in that tradition. One of my mothers Aunts who was Roman Catholic, married a Jewish Man at the turn of the century. They had 13 children all of whom were baptized in the Roman Catholic faith and for lack of better words were taught religion by example but had no "formal" instruction. It appears that when they married they adopted the tradition of their spouse and so some are Roman Catholic, others Dutch Reformed while others belong to various other protestant traditions. It was good for us for as children we learned about and participated somewhat in the traditions of other family members especially at a time when the Roman Catholic church frowned on it and forbade attending other traditions services. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

I don't think it's as uncommon as people think. I think many people rethink their affiliations as life goes on and respond by either changing or disassociating themselves from whatever organization. Also the more rural an area the more people were likely to go to whatever church was around. Stefanie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.0 - Release Date: 12/17/2004

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1269.2 Message Board Post: The pounder was responsible for impounding straying and trespassing livestock caught within a town or in a designated area of a town. He would maintain the enclosure or pasture where the animals were kept until the owners claimed their animal(s) and paid the fee for the cost of the care in the pound. The pounder was also sometimes responsible for the sale of unclaimed animals. Fence viewers had several duties pertaining to fences and enclosures - they had to insure that landowners kept fencing in good repair, to prevent livestock from roaming. The viewer also made sure that fencing was not erected across public roads and paths. In the case of boundary disputes, the viewer was usually on the committee appointed to investigate and help settle the dispute. The viewer would also advise the town authorities of the need for a levy of men to build, repair or replace fencing for common lands.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bellos Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1271 Message Board Post: Need some kind soul to please lookup the obituary of Vasiliki Bellos.Died 12-12-2002 in Flushing,NY Even if the obit could be transcribe and email would be wonderful. Thanks in advance. Nancy

My father was raised a Catholic and became a Quaker a number of years after he married my mother who was a Unitarian. Nancy