Thanks Ruth. I am hoping to find them on the 20 census to see who Fred is married to at the time Genevieve was born .....she was born in 19 and Edward about 1924. Family says that Fredericks first wife died and he then married her sister. I can't remember if the children were by the first wife or the second. All are now deceased. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/4548/

1930 census: E.D.44-74, Sh.13A (132), Pt. of Tract 159, Block No. 13, 1st Assembly District, NYC, Queens, NY Living at 41-08 Broadway Frey, Frederick, Head, Rent for $25, own a radio, age 44 last birthday, married at age 30, b. NY, parents both born Germany, Meter Helper in the Electric Co. field. Agnes, Wife, age 38, married at 27, born NY, parents both born NY Genevieve, daughter, age 10, born NY Edward, son, age 5, born NY I couldn't find them in 1920 but only did a quick search. Ruth Cherecwich

In a message dated 1/28/2005 7:00:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, evc1369@comcast.net writes: > 1920 Queens Frederick Frey ...want to know the name of the wife...a child > Genevieve should be listed. > In the 1920 census at 510 Grandview Ave. there are two Frey families. Fredericks wife's name is Josephine I think, definitely no Genevieve listed In 1930 lots of Frey's but no Frederick's with a Genivieve in the household. Gwen

I did not renew my ancestry subscription and now I find myself in need of a look up. If someone could help me, please. 1920 Queens Frederick Frey ...want to know the name of the wife...a child Genevieve should be listed. 1930 Queens or Brooklyn....Frederick Frey...want to know the name of the wife and if a son is listed along with daughter Genevieve. Thank You Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/4548/

I am sending this article to you as I believe this may help many who are searching for missing ancestors. I should say it will be helpful if the Vatican ever releases the records. Jewish group to sue Vatican for baptismal records BY CAROL EISENBERG STAFF WRITER Posted January 27 2005, 8:40 PM EST A Bronx-based Jewish group announced plans Thursday to sue the Vatican to force the opening of secret archives that might identify thousands of Jewish children baptized as Catholics to save them from the Nazis, and never returned to their families. "As long as the children of all those murdered at Auschwitz do not know their true identities, and as along as the murdered at Auschwitz have descendents who still do not know their true lineage, how can we truly say that Auschwitz has been liberated," said Rabbi Schmuel Herzfeld, vice president of the Coalition for Jewish Concerns. "We want our children back." The 60-year debate about the Roman Catholic church's refusal to return Jewish children to their relatives after the end of World War II was reignited earlier this month when an Italian newspaper reported the discovery of an Oct. 23, 1946 directive in a French church archive near Paris. The directive ordered authorities not to return baptized children to Jewish families who "would not be in a position to guarantee their Christian upbringing." While the document was unsigned and written in French, it said that it had been "approved by the Holy Father." Since then, Jewish groups around the world have urged the Vatican to open baptismal records to identify those children and to put the beatification of Pope Pius XII, who led the church during the Holocaust, on hold. Beatification is the final step before sainthood. Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, wrote Sunday in The Palm Beach Post about how his parents, Polish Jews who survived the camps, fought a protracted, eight-year custody battle after the war to retrieve him from his nanny who had taken him in and had him baptized to protect him from the Nazis. "For many years, my parents could not fathom my nanny's sudden change of heart," Foxman said, urging the Vatican to open the records. "The recent disclosure sadly sheds light on her actions." But the Coalition for Jewish Concerns is the first Jewish group to threaten litigation to open the files. The group called Thursday for an immediate, independent investigation of all Vatican archives that might shed light on "the blood lines of potentially thousands of missing children," an admission of wrongdoing by church leaders and a repudiation of the policy. "The Catholic Church deserves credit for having hidden these children," said Rabbi Avi Weiss of Riverdale, coalition president. "Where they went wrong is when they refused to return them. That's abominable. We're talking about kidnapping. Spiritual kidnapping. And as a rabbi who believes deeply in reaching out to clergy of other faiths, I really implore the Catholic church to come clean on this." Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/4548/

Elizabeth, thank you so much for sending this along. Elizabeth V Cardinal <evc1369@comcast.net> wrote: I am sending this article to you as I believe this may help many who are searching for missing ancestors. I should say it will be helpful if the Vatican ever releases the records. Jewish group to sue Vatican for baptismal records BY CAROL EISENBERG STAFF WRITER Posted January 27 2005, 8:40 PM EST A Bronx-based Jewish group announced plans Thursday to sue the Vatican to force the opening of secret archives that might identify thousands of Jewish children baptized as Catholics to save them from the Nazis, and never returned to their families. "As long as the children of all those murdered at Auschwitz do not know their true identities, and as along as the murdered at Auschwitz have descendents who still do not know their true lineage, how can we truly say that Auschwitz has been liberated," said Rabbi Schmuel Herzfeld, vice president of the Coalition for Jewish Concerns. "We want our children back." The 60-year debate about the Roman Catholic church's refusal to return Jewish children to their relatives after the end of World War II was reignited earlier this month when an Italian newspaper reported the discovery of an Oct. 23, 1946 directive in a French church archive near Paris. The directive ordered authorities not to return baptized children to Jewish families who "would not be in a position to guarantee their Christian upbringing." While the document was unsigned and written in French, it said that it had been "approved by the Holy Father." Since then, Jewish groups around the world have urged the Vatican to open baptismal records to identify those children and to put the beatification of Pope Pius XII, who led the church during the Holocaust, on hold. Beatification is the final step before sainthood. Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, wrote Sunday in The Palm Beach Post about how his parents, Polish Jews who survived the camps, fought a protracted, eight-year custody battle after the war to retrieve him from his nanny who had taken him in and had him baptized to protect him from the Nazis. "For many years, my parents could not fathom my nanny's sudden change of heart," Foxman said, urging the Vatican to open the records. "The recent disclosure sadly sheds light on her actions." But the Coalition for Jewish Concerns is the first Jewish group to threaten litigation to open the files. The group called Thursday for an immediate, independent investigation of all Vatican archives that might shed light on "the blood lines of potentially thousands of missing children," an admission of wrongdoing by church leaders and a repudiation of the policy. "The Catholic Church deserves credit for having hidden these children," said Rabbi Avi Weiss of Riverdale, coalition president. "Where they went wrong is when they refused to return them. That's abominable. We're talking about kidnapping. Spiritual kidnapping. And as a rabbi who believes deeply in reaching out to clergy of other faiths, I really implore the Catholic church to come clean on this." Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/4548/ ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cardinale Belmont Onorato Lacovara Gallagher Frey Tegyi Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1291.1.1.1 Message Board Post: You may want to look at this website: http://www.dos.state.ny.us/cmty/cemetery.html I seriously doubt they will help with a genealogical problem but who knows....give them a try. My advice would be to keep after the cemetery officials by phone and snail mail.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1291.1.1 Message Board Post: Someone else emailed me and told me to write to the cemetery association because they didn't get any help from the cemetery. I did get in contact with the person at the cemetery in Sept or Nov. but have heard nothing else from him. The other person said they finally contacted the assn. and they got it moving. So if you know the address of the assn. please email it to me. Thanks,Ruth

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>From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >JLSchw2143@aol.com >Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:43 PM >To: NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [QUEENS] Re: Calvary Cemetery-Michael Barry b.ca.1800 d. 1850+ > >I just read your post about the Calvary Cemetery. I have a book of burial >listings in the Second Calvary Cemetery in Queens. There are 3 Michael >Barry's listed there. If you are still looking for info on this let me >know, I'd be happy to send it to you. > >JLS ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JLS....................... If you wouldn't mind looking, would you please see if Samuel Ellison is listed as being buried in Second Calvary Cemetery in Queens? He was my maternal g g grandfather. I have been unable to track him down after 1860, when he was listed with his wife and family on the US census, in Queens. I believe he was born c. 1832 somewhere in Northern Ireland, but not positive about that. Thanks so much for any help you might be able to provide. I really appreciate it. Joy E. Bold Joy Bold

How I would love to be at that lecture. Being born and raised in Long Island City and having two of my grandparents born there in the late 1800's I remember several of the beer halls and heard stories of others. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/4548/

The German Genealogy Group will hold its next monthly meeting on Thursday, February 3rd at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The Family History Center at 160 Washington Avenue, Plainview, New York. The program will feature Debbie Van Cura presenting "The Beer Gardens of Queens: Pork, Pilsner and Polka." This lecture will trace the history of beer gardens from the early 1800's in lower Manhattan to the growth of Little Germany and then the development of these pleasure gardens in Queens. An orientation session for beginners and newcomers will be held at 7 PM and the regular meeting will start at 7:30. Among the many benefits of membership are a newsletter published ten times a year, a database of surnames, a translation service, a lending library, interesting guest speakers at the meetings, mentoring and a start up kit of helpful information. We welcome all who are interested in researching their Germanic origins. There is no fee for guests. Visit our web site at http://www.GermanGenealogyGroup.com/ While there, be sure to check the three Brooklyn church databases, naturalization databases, the NYC Death Index which has been updated to include the years 1920-1929, and the Grooms Index.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1293 Message Board Post: To All: The latest addition to the death index for the metro area has been added to the Italian Genealogy Group's website. The indexes for 1920-1929 has been added. This is a great tool to help you find those ancestors that "disappeared" between the 1920 and 1930 census'. The URL for the IGG's site is: www.Italiangen.org The next addition is the death index from 1930-1936 and I am in the process of working on 1937-1948, maybe a couple of months away from being posted. Remember, access to this info is "FREE". It does NOT pertain to just Italians. It is the complete death index. Tony

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1292 Message Board Post: To All: The latest addition to the death index for the metro area has been added to the Italian Genealogy Group's website. The indexes for 1920-1929 has been added. This is a great tool to help you find those ancestors that "disappeared" between the 1920 and 1930 census'. The URL for the IGG's site is: www.Italiangen.org The next addition is the death index from 1930-1936 and I am in the process of working on 1937-1948, maybe a couple of months away from being posted. Remember, access to this info is "FREE". It does NOT pertain to just Italians. It is the complete death index. Tony

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1291.1 Message Board Post: Ruth, all the NY State Cemetery Association would tell you would be to contact the cemetery. They wouldn't involve themselves in something like this. Robert

Are you offering/willing to look up names for others? If so I am looking for Clune. I do have info on one plot with Johanna, Matilda, Frances; just trying to find out if there are any other Clunes or a Timothy Mannix buried in Second Calvary. If you can help I am most appreciative. If you are unable I understand and thank you for your time reading this. JSLantz

----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara McCoy" <barbmccoy@bellsouth.net> To: <NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [QUEENS] Re: Calvary Cemetery-Michael Barry b.ca.1800 d. 1850+ > Are there any McCoys in that Calvary Cemetery? If so, I'd be > interested. Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JLSchw2143@aol.com> > To: <NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:42 PM > Subject: [QUEENS] Re: Calvary Cemetery-Michael Barry b.ca.1800 d. 1850+ > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1211.2 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> I just read your post about the Calvary Cemetery. I have a book of >> burial > listings in the Second Calvary Cemetery in Queens. There are 3 Michael > Barry's listed there. If you are still looking for info on this let me > know, I'd be happy to send it to you. >> >> JLS >> >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/05 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/05 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mincone" <cjem@verizon.net> To: <NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: [QUEENS] Re: Calvary Cemetery-Michael Barry b.ca.1800 d. 1850+ > Hi JLS, > > I understand you have a book of burials listings for Second Calvary. I > have > been trying to locate a Julia Hays ( Grant ) maiden name, for years and > the > folks at Calvary can't or will not do a search without a year of death, > could you please search your book for listings for a Julia Hays ( Grant ) > or > let me know where I can purchase a copy of the book. > > Thanks in Advance, > > John Mincone > J_Mincone@yahoo.com > > . > > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of > JLSchw2143@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:43 PM > To: NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [QUEENS] Re: Calvary Cemetery-Michael Barry b.ca.1800 d. 1850+ > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1211.2 > > Message Board Post: > > I just read your post about the Calvary Cemetery. I have a book of burial > listings in the Second Calvary Cemetery in Queens. There are 3 Michael > Barry's listed there. If you are still looking for info on this let me > know, I'd be happy to send it to you. > > JLS > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1211.2.1.2 Message Board Post: The Michael Barry's listed in the book "Second Calvary Cemetery" are: "Michael Barry d 26 June 1887 age?y. His wife Mary d?1892 age?y. Son Patrick d ? (worn stone)" "EB Daniel Casey IMO his friend Michael Barry d 25 Aug 1887 age 56 y native of City of Limerick." "Michael Joseph Barry b 6 Jan 1871 d 1947." I hope one of these is a match. Good Luck. JLB

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1291 Message Board Post: Can anyone give me the address for the New York Cemetery Association? I need some help in getting information from the Woodland Cemetery on Staten Island, NY. Thanks