Hi Cathy, What a great idea. I never thought of that. Please make sure you let the list know if you hear anything from someone as a result of leaving those cards on the graves or tombstones. If I ever get back to Calvary Cemetery I'm going to do the same thing. Thanks for the idea. Pat McHale (O'CONNOR, CAPPER, DUNNE, CLARKE) , I am going to design in advance of my trip some 3X5 cards with my name (not my real name), relationship to deceased, telephone number, and an email address. I am going to write it in indelible ink, and laminate it. Then I am going to secure it somehow on, at, or very near the gravesite. I'm thinking it might be a good way of finding cousins, friends, etc.

Cathy, Some years ago while traveling in Wales, my wife and daughter visited the cemetery in the town from which her family came. They found the family gravesite which was obviously being visited and cared for on a regular basis. My wife left a note and a very brief family tree in a basket on the gravesite. About three weeks after they arrived home, my wife received a letter from a relative who had found the note. They have been communicating ever since. Another relative, since deceased was also writing. It added a whole family to our research. Now, if only I could be so lucky! George > From: CAnne16560@aol.com > Reply-To: NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:38:05 EDT > To: NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [QUEENS] AN IDEA WHEN VISITING CEMETERIES.... > Resent-From: NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:38:21 -0600 > > I don't know if any of you have tried this before or not. Since I am soon > going to visit NYC and several cemeteries of my ancestors in Queens, the > Bronx, > Kings, and Bergen and others, I am going to design in advance of my trip some > 3X5 cards with my name (not my real name), relationship to deceased, > telephone number, and an email address. I am going to write it in indelible > ink, and > laminate it. Then I am going to secure it somehow on, at, or very near the > gravesite. I'm thinking it might be a good way of finding cousins, friends, > etc. > Comments welcome - anyone?? > > Thank you, > Cathy in sunny Tampa, FL > Native of Brooklyn, NY > > > Ongoing Surname Research as of January 2005 > > > AUSTIN, BALLIN, DRISCOLL, FAVOURE, FULLER, HRADEL, KOZISKI, KUPECZ, > McLENDON, MURPHY, NAGLE, RYAN, SOBOL, STEPHENS, WALLA, WILLIAMS > > > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Great idea . I'll be as brief as possible. When my father's cousin died about 30 yrs ago, his only child, Tom, lost touch with his father's only sibling, Aunt Eleanor. Whenever Tom would visit the cemetery he would leave a note on the grave for Eleanor, he knew she must visit the grave because someone always left flowers. He never heard from Eleanor. Tom's grandmother always left notes in a seashell at cemeteries. Eleanor passed away last year, but about 5 yrs ago, Eleanor was living in a Home and was rushed to the hospital for emergency surgery. The staff at the Home went thru her things to try and find a relative. Needless to say, they found all of Tom's notes from the cemetery. The staff contacted Tom and for her last few years, Eleanor had a loving family, after being alone for such a long time. Good Luck, Pat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1366.1.1.1 Message Board Post: May wrote, "... Francis Dunphy married my grandmother Isabelle Smith in December 1918 Trenton,NJ. ..." Hi, May. I think I remember your first post mentioning that [First Name Unknown] YOUNG was Francis's first wife, so then the 1918 would have been his second marriage. Do I have that correct? It's interesting that Francis is living (1920 census) with his mother-in-law from his first marriage less than two years following his second wedding (1918 marriage to Isabelle). Did Isabelle SMITH Dunphy die prior to 1920? Do you have Isabelle and Francis's marriage record? Sometimes marriage records mention the names of former spouses and specify whether the first marriage ended with the death of the spouse or divorce or annulment. Do you have immigration records for Francis and his family of origin? Good luck with your research.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dunphy,Smith,Young Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1366.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the reply.To my understanding census takers right down what people tell them.My grandfather is also listed as being born in New York City.He had no birth certificate,back in those days,I guess you didn't need one.(The story has it that my grandfather,his mother,and two sisters came through Ellis Island when my grandfather was a young boy.He was dressed as a girl to stay with his family on the ship.My grandfather was so sick that the family almost didn't make it into NYC.) Francis Dunphy married my grandmother Isabelle Smith in December 1918 Trenton,NJ.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1367.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Lisa, Lutheran Cemetery, where most, but not all, of my own family is buried (going back to the 1860s, our most recent family burial there 1988), has ALWAYS been open to people of all faiths. Robert

I think it is a great idea...hope it works....I would at least put my first name on the card. You may also want to give the office at the cemetery the information in case someone else comes looking for the grave. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net http://www.cafepress.com/formernuns

I don't know if any of you have tried this before or not. Since I am soon going to visit NYC and several cemeteries of my ancestors in Queens, the Bronx, Kings, and Bergen and others, I am going to design in advance of my trip some 3X5 cards with my name (not my real name), relationship to deceased, telephone number, and an email address. I am going to write it in indelible ink, and laminate it. Then I am going to secure it somehow on, at, or very near the gravesite. I'm thinking it might be a good way of finding cousins, friends, etc. Comments welcome - anyone?? Thank you, Cathy in sunny Tampa, FL Native of Brooklyn, NY Ongoing Surname Research as of January 2005 AUSTIN, BALLIN, DRISCOLL, FAVOURE, FULLER, HRADEL, KOZISKI, KUPECZ, McLENDON, MURPHY, NAGLE, RYAN, SOBOL, STEPHENS, WALLA, WILLIAMS

thanks Gail. I didn't know about this .. . . say duuuuuh, Judy!!! I 'll do my best to get to that site. Judy in C

Cathy, I was interested to see your idea. Just this past weekend I met a 4th cousin I'd never known who called me when she found a genealogy-in-a-jar I left on her g-g-grandfather's grave. She was able to fill me in on the descendants in her line, and I was able to give her ancestral information she was unaware of. And we both were invited to tour an old home where her g-g-grandparents lived in the 1870s-1880s. Good luck with your laminated cards. Understandably, some cemeteries won't allow this sort of thing, but it's worth a try. CAnne16560@aol.com wrote:I don't know if any of you have tried this before or not. Since I am soon going to visit NYC and several cemeteries of my ancestors in Queens, the Bronx, Kings, and Bergen and others, I am going to design in advance of my trip some 3X5 cards with my name (not my real name), relationship to deceased, telephone number, and an email address. I am going to write it in indelible ink, and laminate it. Then I am going to secure it somehow on, at, or very near the gravesite. I'm thinking it might be a good way of finding cousins, friends, etc. Comments welcome - anyone?? Thank you, Cathy in sunny Tampa, FL Native of Brooklyn, NY Ongoing Surname Research as of January 2005 AUSTIN, BALLIN, DRISCOLL, FAVOURE, FULLER, HRADEL, KOZISKI, KUPECZ, McLENDON, MURPHY, NAGLE, RYAN, SOBOL, STEPHENS, WALLA, WILLIAMS ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

Hi Lisa, I was extremely successful with Lutheran 2 years ago for family records. Call and ask for Adriana - she is very helpful. If you have one family member there and you know name and date of death call her and ask if that one person is "residing" there. After she gives you the news, then ask how many other persons there are in the plot. She then told me. She won't give all the info over the phone, but you can pay $3 per name, give a credit card, and they will type up your list, and mail it to you. The list will include names, addresses at death, place of death, cause of death. I discovered family members who were on the "missing list". People we didn't know of, and a child we were never told about. It is well worth it. Later I discovered another family member, called Adriana and discovered more of the family. What a find this was! This part of the family were my great grandfathers family, whom was a secret (ya know the family denial, and secrets), and what ever happened, we will now have difficulty discovering. The 2 plots of these 2 families aren't far apart, t great grandma hid the truth. That's not all she hid. I have had photos from the family of the one plot. I would love to have pictures of the 2nd plot, and the individual headstones in Luthern Cemetery. I am in California, and don't see getting to New YOrk any time soon. Have fun searching. Judy in CA

Judy and List, The post by Lisa was made through a message board on Ancestry so for her to see the reply, you need to go to the link and then reply to the post. She would not see the reply made here at roots web. Here is the link to her original message. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1367 Gail -----Original Message----- From: JMWillis77@aol.com [mailto:JMWillis77@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:41 AM To: NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEENS] Re: Lutheran Cemetary in Queens - ? Hi Lisa, I was extremely successful with Lutheran 2 years ago for family records. Call and ask for Adriana - she is very helpful. If you have one family member there and you know name and date of death call her and ask if that one person is "residing" there. After she gives you the news, then ask how many other persons there are in the plot. She then told me. She won't give all the info over the phone, but you can pay $3 per name, give a credit card, and they will type up your list, and mail it to you. The list will include names, addresses at death, place of death, cause of death. I discovered family members who were on the "missing list". People we didn't know of, and a child we were never told about. It is well worth it. Later I discovered another family member, called Adriana and discovered more of the family. What a find this was! This part of the family were my great grandfathers family, whom was a secret (ya know the family denial, and secrets), and what ever happened, we will now have difficulty discovering. The 2 plots of these 2 families aren't far apart, t great grandma hid the truth. That's not all she hid. I have had photos from the family of the one plot. I would love to have pictures of the 2nd plot, and the individual headstones in Luthern Cemetery. I am in California, and don't see getting to New YOrk any time soon. Have fun searching. Judy in CA ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1367.1.1 Message Board Post: Gail Thanks so much. My family member was German as well as Lutheran so this makes a lot of sense. I will have to see if I can find out from the cemetary what other relatives are buried there. I am trying to piece together this family from census and a few IGI/vital records and it has not been easy. They wrere extremely fond of the names William and Frank (also appearing as Franz and Francis), as well as Charles, George and a few others. Thanks again! Lisa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SCHINNERER, BAYER, LAVENDER, KING, ROVER, RÖVER, JORGENSEN, HARTMAN, LEITHAUSER, LEITHAUSSER, NIELSEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1367.1 Message Board Post: Lisa, A law was passed in 1847 that banned future cemeteries from being opened in Manhattan. As a result, Lutheran Cemetery was founded in Middle Village in 1852 by German churches located in Kleindeutschland, Manhattan. Many of the victims of the General Slocum tragedy were laid to rest here. A monument dedicated in their honor at which an annual memorial ceremony takes place is found within the confines of the cemetery's southern portion. Today, the cemetery is open to people of all faiths, and has been renamed to reflect that fact. For now, German Lutherans remain the predominate group interred here. The NYS Division of Cemeteries bestowed upon the cemetery the distinction of being "exceptionally well operated and maintained." Lutheran-All Faiths Cemetery is bisected by Metropolitan Avenue, and the New York Connecting Railroad tunnels under a portion of it. 67-29 Metroplitan Avenue, Middle Villiage, NY 11379 (718) 821-1750 Gail Jorgensen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LEBRECHT, LEBRIGHT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1367 Message Board Post: I recently received a 1935 death certificate for a member of my LEBRECHT family. The place of burial is simply listed as "Lutheran Cemetary". The place of death was 123-40 83rd Avenue, Queens. I have reason to believe this may be in the neighborhood of Kew Gardens or Richmond Hill. I assume that the cemetary was not simply named "Lutheran Cemetary". Was there only one Lutheran Cemetary in this area? If so, can someone help me with the name and exact location? Thanks. Lisa

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1366.1 Message Board Post: May wrote, "I'm searching for dates and the first name of the Young woman that my grandfather married.They resided in Queens County,NY.The Young woman was the daughter of Jacob and Caroline Ludwig-Young of College Point,NY.My grandfather was Francis Xavier Dunphy was born in Ireland December 1890.Came through Ellis Island late 1800's to early 1900's with his mother Mary Ann and two sisters,Agnes and Mary." May, In the 1920 census, Francis [DUNPHY?], widowed, is living in the household of his mother-in-law Caroline Young in College Point. HIs birthplace is not listed as Ireland, but as New Jersey--and his father's birthplace as NJ and mother's as New York. [1920 US Census, NY Queens Queens, College Point Tract, ED 193, Sheet 37A] In the 1910 census, Jacob and Caroline are listed with children Gertrude E. (12), Lillian E. (10) and Florence L. (8). Perhaps Gertrude is the individual you're looking for. [1910 US Census, NY Queens 3WD Queens, ED 1204, Sheet 55A] Perhaps this is the marriage index entry for your Francis: Dunphy Francis Mar 23 1918 Queens Certificate Number 570 [Found by searching at http://www.italiangen.org/NYCMarriage.stm] Good luck.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dunphy,Smith,Young Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1366 Message Board Post: I'm searching for dates and the first name of the Young woman that my grandfather married.They resided in Queens County,NY.The Young woman was the daughter of Jacob and Caroline Ludwig-Young of College Point,NY.My grandfather was Francis Xavier Dunphy was born in Ireland December 1890.Came through Ellis Island late 1800's to early 1900's with his mother Mary Ann and two sisters,Agnes and Mary. Other children of Jacob and Caroline Young were: Florence,Lillian,Dorothy and Jacob. Thank you.

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