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    1. Re: Margaret Cain 1900 census and early please!!!!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1412.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi, I just found out that my Margaret Cain/Kane died at age 1. Would you happen to come across that age or person? Thanks JEnn

    07/25/2005 05:49:12
    1. Re: Margaret Cain 1900 census and early please!!!!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1412.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi , The Margaret Cain I have died at age 60 in Dec. 1900. So maybe anyone who is close? Says she came over in 1860. Hope this matches. Thank you, Jenn

    07/25/2005 01:14:00
    1. Re: CRAIG - Queens NY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1012.1.2.1 Message Board Post: There are no post-war city directories for Queens. Nothing was published after the 1933-34 Polk's Directory.

    07/25/2005 12:34:17
    1. Re: Margaret Cain 1900 census and early please!!!!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1412.1 Message Board Post: I found 1 Margeret Cain in the 1900 Census in Queens, married to Peter Cain, both from Ireland, 2 Maggie Cains, both listed as "daughter," born in the 1880s. There are also 2 Margaret Kane's, born in Ireland living in Queens. 1 age 70 working as a cook, and widowed, the other is married to Michael, both are from Ireland. One Margaret Kane and one Margrette Kane, born in New York are too young. Do you want more information about any of these?

    07/24/2005 11:02:26
    1. Frederick & Fannie T. HAAK in 1900 -look up, please
    2. I have tried several searchs...... in vain, for the family of my great grandparents in the 1900 census. Based on the data I have found, they should be in Queens (Flushing) or Kings (Brooklyn). I have tried spelling variations, first name searches, etc. to no avail. Can someone else spot them? 1. Frederick2 Haak (Hermann1) was born June 16, 1866 in Flushing, Queens Co., New York, and died August 26, 1902 in Flushing, Queens Co., New York. He married Fannie Tilly Wilson December 20, 1888 in Flushing, Queens Co., New York, daughter of David Wilson and Eliza Stewart. She was born June 18, 1867 in Brooklyn,Kings Co., New York, and died June 27, 1940 in East Rutherford, Bergen Co., New Jersey. More About Frederick Haak: Burial: August 29, 1902, Lot 6, Div. B, Section 2, grave 5, Flushing Cem., Flushing, Queens Co., New York Cause of Death: Typhoid Fever Census: June 09, 1880, ED176, page 44, Brooklyn, Kings County, New York Occupation: Carpenter Residence: 1880, Fayette St., Brooklyn, Kings Co., New York More About Fannie Tilly Wilson: Burial: June 30, 1940, Lot 6, Div. B, Section 2, grave 5, Flushing Cem., Flushing, Queens Co., New York Census: April 18, 1910, Film 624_1065, ED31, image992, pg 11, District 1286, Borough of Queens, NY Residence: April 18, 1910, 25 Flushing Place, Queens Borough, New York Census 1920 Roll: T625_1232 Page: 3A ED: 188 Image: 0605 Occupation: mother's helper; private family . Also there: Grace F. , dau. single, 24, an order clerk, and Frederick, son, single, 18, a jr. draftsman. Cannot read where they work! Census 1930: Queens, New York, New York County page 1B, ED288 lines 75 - 77 show Fred, age 29, married at 25, both he and his parents born in N.Y, occupation draughtsman, engineering, class 5V94, for wages. He was not a veteran. His wife Dorothy, age 28, was 24 when married. She and both parents were NY born. Fred's mother, Fannie T. Haak, age 62, a widow, born in NY as were both her parents. They lived in a rented apartment in a 3 family dwelling at 4352 157th St, Queens, NY. Rent was $57./month and they owned a radio. Marriage Notes for Frederick Haak and Fannie Wilson: Certified copy of the marriage registration rec'd fron Queens County, NY on 3 May, 2001. Marriage was performed by William Morrison, minister of the First Baptist Church, 14210 Sanford Ave. and Union St. Flushing. The church was established in 1856. Children of Frederick Haak and Fannie Wilson are: + 2 i. Jeannette Wilson3 Haak, born January 14, 1890 in New York; died September 16, 1970 in St. Mary's Hospital, Passaic, Passaic Co., New Jersey. + 3 ii. Grace Fredricka Haak, born October 20, 1895 in New York; died December 12, 1965. 4 iii. Frederick Haak, born March 01, 1901 in New York; died February 07, 1976 in Longmeadow, Mass.. He married Dorothy Van Rader Unknown in unknown; born 1906 in New York; died Unknown in ?. More About Frederick Haak: Burial: February 1976 Census: April 16, 1930, T626_1594, ED288, page 1B, Queens, New York Occupation: April 1930, Draughtsman, engineering Residence: April 16, 1930, 4352 157th Street, Queens, New York 5 iv. Dorothy W. Haak, born October 24, 1902 in Bayside, Queens County, New York; died January 30, 1903 in Flushing,, Queens Co., New York. More About Dorothy W. Haak: Burial: February 01, 1903, Lot 6, Div. B, Sect 2, grave 7, Flushing Cemetery, Flushing, Queens County, New York Cause of Death: Whooping Cough + 6 v. Fannie Louise Haak, born 1892 in New York; died Unknown in unknown. Sorry about the lenght of this, but help would be appreciated! Dorothy Nagy Newport News, Virginia

    07/24/2005 03:14:14
    1. CRAIG - Queens NY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CRAIG, Wilson, Paris, Farr, Stern Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1012.1.2 Message Board Post: Finally found an obit on line for Mr. Vivian H. CRAIG,dated 2/16/1944. His addr at that time was: 35-82 Eightieth St., Jackson Heights, Queens, NY. His wife, Katherine and ch Frank (Lt/Army Ord) and Norma (publicity/United Air lines). Do you have acc to the city directories, post war? I'm still looking for Uncle Viv's family. Thanks for your time. Freddie

    07/24/2005 02:20:53
    1. Re: [QUEENS] Best Genealogical Libraries in Queens...
    2. The Queens Borough Library in Jamaica is the best I have found--_Queens Borough Public Library - Queens, NY - Home Page_ (http://www.queenslibrary.org/)

    07/24/2005 09:31:46
    1. Best Genealogical Libraries in Queens...
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1414.1 Message Board Post: On 7/24/05 (1:25:47 PM MDT), in a posting to the Queens County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com, H Trump (htrump6704@aol.com) asked, "Looking for the Best Genealogical Libraries in Queen County, Nassau County. I'll be doing some research ( Sept ) in the Microfilm records of local libraries for year to year records of 3 residences of Edgemere, Island Park and Far Rockaway,NY ie: City Directories and Phone books( circa 1910-1985 ) Does anyone recommend which library has the best resources for such a research trip." Edgemere and Far Rockaway are adjoining neighborhoods on the eastern end of the Rockaway peninsula in Queens County, while Island Park is a village (municipal corporation) in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County. For Queens County, you may want to contact the Queens Borough Public Library: Long Island Division Queens Borough Public Library 89-11 Merrick Boulevard New York (Jamaica P.O.), NY 11432 Tel: 718/990-0700 Fax: 718/???-???? Contact information: http://www.queenslibrary.org/infoline/email.asp Long Island Division: http://www.queenslibrary.org/central/longisland/ Home page: http://www.queenslibrary.org/ I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Walter Greenspan

    07/24/2005 07:59:49
    1. Re: Charles Freil and Sons funeral home
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1413.1 Message Board Post: don't know if you have the right cemetery ... here's why ... there is a lawrence cemetery ... which i think has been neglected and is a family cemetery... if this is the cemetery then you may want to call the bayside historical society ... i saw an article in the ny times that they are at the very least overseeing the property ... i say you may have the wrong cemetery because there is an area in nassau called lawrence which is not too far from the rockaways ... just a suggestion if you would like the article let me know

    07/24/2005 07:28:19
    1. Best Genealogical Libraries in Queens...
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kleinsang Reeves Boudreau Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1414 Message Board Post: Looking for the Best Genealogical Libraries in Queen County, Nassau County. I'll be doing some research ( Sept ) in the Microfilm records of local libraries for year to year records of 3 residences of Edgemere, Island Park and Far Rockaway,NY ie: City Directories and Phone books( circa 1910-1985 ) Does anyone recommend which library has the best resources for such a research trip. Thanks H Trump htrump6704@aol.com

    07/24/2005 07:25:29
    1. Re: George Robbins
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/51.1.1 Message Board Post: Grace, We corresponded last year about the ancestry of Georgianna Jenney, but I happened to come across this message, and noticed that you don't have George's birth record (I assume). According to the MA State Health Dept. records, which are copies of town records, he was born on 23 March 1858, son of William L. Robbins and Georgianna A. Jenney. William was a laborer living on County St., New Bedford. William was b. in New Bedford and Georgianna was b. in New York (City). The record is in vol. 114, p. 129. Just thought I would pass that on to you! I've added to my Jenne/Jenney pages within the year, and also moved my site. I don't have pages for Georgianna or Jethro (I only have individual pages for my ancestors), I do pick up your line at Abner and back from there. I was in New Bedford and Fairhaven last year and got photos of gravestones and a relative sent me copies of some historical papers connected with Henry and Cornelius, some of which I've put at my website. Here is the link to Abner if you're interested: http://dougsinclairsarchives.com/jenne/abnerjenne.htm Doug

    07/24/2005 06:15:43
    1. Re: [QUEENS] Charles Freil and Sons funeral home
    2. don't know if you have the right cemetery ... here's why ... there is a lawrence cemetery ... which i think has been neglected and is a family cemetery... if this is the cemetery then you may want to call the bayside historical society ... i saw an article in the ny times that they are at the very least overseeing the property ... i say you may have the wrong cemetery because there is an area in nassau called lawrence which is not too far from the rockaways ... just a suggestion if you would like the article let me know In a message dated 7/24/2005 12:01:09 AM Central Standard Time, odessadc@worldnet.att.net writes: Lawrence Cemetery, May 19,1917. The funeral director was Chas Freil and Sons.. I went to the cemetery online, and it seems it has been vandalized and quite unkept for decades. Any one have any info as to where I could find records of the cemetery..

    07/23/2005 08:07:03
    1. Charles Freil and Sons funeral home
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: kEENOY,Mullins, Christy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1413 Message Board Post: HI, Has anyone ever heard of Charles Freil and sons funeral home in Rockaway Beach? If so,any idea where would the records be I just received my great-grandmothers death certificate, she was buried at Lawrence Cemetery, May 19,1917. The funeral director was Chas Freil and Sons.. I went to the cemetery online, and it seems it has been vandalized and quite unkept for decades. Any one have any info as to where I could find records of the cemetery.. Thanks for any help BARBARA

    07/23/2005 05:00:49
    1. Re: [QUEENS] Where's Woodlawn Cemetery? for KOBER
    2. Jacqi Stevens
    3. I was just noticing that myself. It's OK...it sent me a smile to start my day... Jacqi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> To: <NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: [QUEENS] Where's Woodlawn Cemetery? for KOBER > <<It is not unusual for people to be buried.>> > > I can't believe I wrote such a sentence as above.... LOL > > Of course what I meant to say is that it is not unusual for people to be > buried outside of their home area/city and so on. > > Elizabeth V. Cardinal > evc1369@comcast.net > > ______________________________

    07/23/2005 07:44:54
    1. Calvary Cemetery - In reference to last weeks conversation, book
    2. Patty Fagan
    3. Elizabeth, try using using Advanced Book Exchange for used book searches. They have a copy listed now for $80. Amazon has one for $134. http://www.abebooks.com/ http://froogle.google.com http://www.fetchbook.info Used copies of the Calvary book are available but expensive. It's a bit steep for an individual who may not benefit from the book, but it's a good addition to a library reference section. I don't know if this is still a valid e-mail address, but at one time the author was offering to sell copies privately. RoArd29@aol.com Patty Fagan >It is also out of print and I have not found a used copy.

    07/23/2005 05:35:44
    1. HOSPITAL LOCATIONS
    2. Would anyone know what hospitals were in the area of Jamaica, Long Island around 1913. I am trying to trace the hospital my father would have been born at if he wasn't born at home. Thanks so much. Carol

    07/23/2005 04:29:26
    1. Interesting information on German Lutherans living in Hungary
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. I found this question and answer posed on another list very interesting and helpful. Perhaps you will too. <<I am finding that many of the baptisms were performed for Lutherans. Is that common and why would they go to a Catholic church to baptize their children?>>> Greetings All Since you didn't indicate the time period for which you have noticed these baptisms in the records, I'm going to guess that they are either prior to ~1790, or they were for a very very remote village that wasn't regularly (or often) visited by a circuit rider Lutheran pastor. In the first example, prior to the Edict of Toleration by Austrian Emperor Joseph, all baptisms and marriages had to be performed by a Catholic priest -- that was the law -- and the recording of all events was to be by the Catholic church -- again, the law. When Germans from the Holy Roman Empire immigrated to repopulate Hungary beginning ~1715 (work for the landlords essentially), they had to be Catholic in order to be sponsored by the Austrian gov;t. Lutherans went to Hungary anyway because there were numerous *tolorent* landlords who allowed Lutherans to have a pastor (but not churches until late 1780s -- they had to "follow their religion" in private) -- so in those villages (and those nearby), you'll find records for Lutherans kept by the pastor (who was also many times also the schoolteacher). The same can be said for Calvinists, or the Reformed church. As I understand it, the real rub for Lutherans living in 'Catholic' villages in those early days was not the difference in the organized church, it was having to PAY the fees to the Catholic church that were charged -- alter fees, priest fees, use fees etc. in order to get married and have a child baptized. Essentially, there was not the freedom of religion as we know it today, although the culture was not completely intolerant either. Also, the role of the church was much different then in Europe, than we experience today. At that time, the church WAS the authority in the village along with the owner (landlord) of the village. People were no more or less pious then, than they are now. Some went to church regularly and celebrated the feast days (catholic) etc., and some didn't. All of which is meant to indicate that the fact one finds records in a particular set of books does not indicate an affiliation with that church or religion (people could not choose which 'church' to attend as was the case in USA) -- the recording of vital events was by law the responsibility of the Catholic church in Hungary (and elsewhere) until the late 1780s. The other reason you'll find Lutheran records in Catholic books even after ~1790, is that the village was in a location that did not have access to a Lutheran pastor -- either in a nearby village or in a village that was on the route of a traveling pastor. As with all things, as time went on, people reported events (this was the law) to whatever authority was available to report to, and as toleration grew, and a village with Lutherans or Calvinists could afford it, they would support a leader of their own faith and you'll find separate vital records for additional religions. One finds Lutheran, and Catholic people recorded in the Greek Orthodox records for some small villages in 'old Slavonia' (now Croatia) for example.

    07/23/2005 02:33:27
    1. Green Wood Cem on line
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. Green Wood Cemetery Interments are on line at http://www.green-wood.com/bur_search.asp Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    07/22/2005 03:41:27
    1. Two websites regarding regulations of cemeteries
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. http://www.dos.state.ny.us/cnsl/cemreg.html http://www.savinggraves-us.org/ny/ Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    07/22/2005 02:01:48
    1. On cemeteries
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. This article was posted on the Brooklyn list. It is quite timely and most informative. http://www.nydailynews.com/11-24-2003/city_life/advice/aarons/story/330465p- 282396c.html Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    07/22/2005 01:36:11