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    1. RE: [QUEENS] MHT Cem NEWS
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. <<I also have a letter from Catholic Cemeteries which I followed by a phone call. I was told that is exactly what happened to my g grandfather's grave in MHT.>> Did you ask them if someone in the family surrendered the grave site? I did tell Polly that someone on a family history list told us it happened to them (didn't use your name) and she said it couldn't happen unless it was surrendered. I asked if I could tell listers what she said and her reply was please do because we do not re sell or recycle graves. Why don't you give her a call..... you never know...perhaps a serious error was made. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    08/05/2005 06:14:59
    1. Re: [QUEENS] MHT Cem NEWS
    2. Elizabeth: I also have a letter from Catholic Cemeteries which I followed by a phone call. I was told that is exactly what happened to my g grandfather's grave in MHT. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> To: <NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: [QUEENS] MHT Cem NEWS > > I just got off the phone with Polly from the Catholic Cemeteries of > Brooklyn > Diocese. > > > > Polly, assured me that NO graves are ever recycled or resold except if a > family freely surrenders the grave. In order for that to happen, the > owners/descendants would have to notify the cemetery. > >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

    08/05/2005 06:06:01
    1. Great website
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. Posted on another list. After scanning it briefly I think many of you would like to look at it. www.thehistorybox.com/ny_city_directories.html

    08/05/2005 04:33:49
    1. MHT Cem NEWS
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. I just got off the phone with Polly from the Catholic Cemeteries of Brooklyn Diocese. I had written a letter questioning if graves in Most Holy Trinity are recycled/resold at ANY point in time after reading some messages on list.. Polly, assured me that NO graves are ever recycled or resold except if a family freely surrenders the grave. In order for that to happen, the owners/descendants would have to notify the cemetery. As she said, the grave belongs to the family for ever and ever and ever. She said this applies to ALL of the Catholic Cemeteries in the Brooklyn Diocese. If you have questions, please feel free to call their office at 718-894-4888 Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    08/05/2005 04:25:21
    1. Re: RE: RE: [QUEENS]
    2. I have exhused ancesty.com and some other things. I can promise that in the ss application a foster mother of my dads sisters was used. (not positive they are sisters, I think cousins) valid reasoning here won't go into it. Found a letter that mom let me read said somthing about his parents died when he was young, came from a good family and that's why he was in the system. Was written by a parol officer that he stayed with once he was old enough to leave the orphanage. Mom has decided to shread all, because the letters are private. I have a call into brooklyn community services (Brooklyn Childrens Aid Society). I am sure that they will tell me after 76 years all of the records have been destroyed (and if not they will tell me what they want me to know.) BTW the arcive guy at New York CAS was very nice, but asured me that his records were not there, and they were at this time shreading all that are over 50 years old. I did find his childhood friend at the orphanage that joined the service with him. I needed a name and it gave some closure. This is probably the only thing I can document. I have a company picture when he was in the service. This was only one name that matched the orphan census, dad had not arrived there yet. So could be iffy but was an odd name so maybe its right. You see they joined the service on the buddy system, with the consideration they would stay together through out their time in the service. His friend saved my dads life at Normandy by giving his. The problem here again is that I am sure the records are gone, and I have to wait for the 1940 census to even look at dads name at the orphanage. Am going to try to send for dads complete file and hope they will share something about his friend that might give me something to go on. There is a letter from a parol officer he stayed with that says both his parents died and that was why he was in the system. I saw it one week after dad died. I wanted to see it again to see if I read how it was worded correctly and see if there were any other hints. I was upset when I read. No way to do that now my mom has decided to shred all the letters she has. I just figured that maybe I could find out something else through where he worked. A shot in the dark at best. Theres a ton more that doesn't fit but I won't go into it. Just pray that CAS will have pity and just send me the entire file, and it will have pictures and everything. I know no way. :) Everyone that was involved is now dead can't figure why they would care. Politics and control I guess. I think I will probably drop everything doesn't seem like there is a point to it all anyways. I hope that your research is going better than mine. I think that we are looking for two different things. I think yours probably has a happier note to it. Sorry if I have aired dirty laundry, I know my dad wouldn't be happy with me telling anyone. Thanks for listening any ways and best regards, Pat -------- Original Message -------- ==> From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> ==> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:20:21 -0400 Asking questions is not imposing....we all have asked them time and time again especially when we were "newbies". I have to ask, why you are trying to find his employment history? Employment records, if they still exist, will not provide much information....you would find more personal information by following him/them on the census. I can't say I know for certain that all men over a certain age had to register but do know a goodly number of them did. It will give you a physical description, an address and employer and sometimes the name of his next of kin. Have you looked for him on the SSDI (Social Security Death Index)? If he is there you can send for his Social Security application. I need to know, just what you are looking for before we can give you constructive help and we also need to know just what information you have so we are not duplicating information. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

    08/03/2005 03:23:22
    1. Obituary Lookup, Please
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sokolowski,Alsheimer,Weigel Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1416 Message Board Post: I am hoping some kind person will look up 2 obituaries for me. My cousin and her husband lived in Astoria, Queens, NY: Julia Cinnirella b 16 Nov 1904, d 8 Nov 1993 and Nicholas Cinnirella b 20 Jan 1900, d Mar 1985. I could look up 2 obituaries in Buffalo, NY in return or reimburse minor expenses. Barbara Sokolowski Dintcheff Sokolowskibarba@aol.com

    08/03/2005 03:06:28
    1. RE: RE: [QUEENS]
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. Asking questions is not imposing....we all have asked them time and time again especially when we were "newbies". I have to ask, why you are trying to find his employment history? Employment records, if they still exist, will not provide much information....you would find more personal information by following him/them on the census. I can't say I know for certain that all men over a certain age had to register but do know a goodly number of them did. It will give you a physical description, an address and employer and sometimes the name of his next of kin. Have you looked for him on the SSDI (Social Security Death Index)? If he is there you can send for his Social Security application. I need to know, just what you are looking for before we can give you constructive help and we also need to know just what information you have so we are not duplicating information. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    08/01/2005 04:20:21
    1. RE: [QUEENS]
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. I would venture to guess they worked at Bellevue Hospital which is in Manhattan. A WW1 draft card for him might confirm his place of employment. You can also contact Bellevue. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    08/01/2005 03:11:17
    1. Re: RE: [QUEENS]
    2. Thanks. I didn't know that. Did everyone have to register for the draft in 1924 like like they did in the 1950's? It seems like I don't get answers when I ask about things like that. For instance he worked at Wavecrest convolesent home when I called to inquire about 1940's employment records, the girl said that they hadn't been open that long. Also I called a hotel that had the same name and address as the place where my grandfather lived and they were real evasive. Glenwood House now Glenwood hotel, same address. What am I doing wrong? These are facts that I know yet cannot find anything out. Do you have any advice on how to ask? It would be greatly appreciate. Sorry to impose like this but I am new to this kind of research. Thanks for your reply it was nice for you to respond. Pat -------- Original Message -------- ==> From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> ==> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:11:17 -0400 I would venture to guess they worked at Bellevue Hospital which is in Manhattan. A WW1 draft card for him might confirm his place of employment. You can also contact Bellevue. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    08/01/2005 03:07:04
    1. Hi, How do you find out where a person worked in 1924. The occupation listed on a birth certificate is father, orderly, and mother, wardmaid. How do I find out which hospital they worked in? The birth took place at Bellevue Hospital I am assuming Bellevue is in Manhatan? Thanks in Advance, Pat

    07/31/2005 06:36:23
    1. Looking for Descendents of William Hobart
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1415 Message Board Post: William Hobart's wife was Hattie, they had two children, a son Alfred age 23 and a daughter Emily age 17, this is from the 1930 census, they lived at 87th Avenue. Can anyone help me?? I don't know where to go from this point. Thank you so much.

    07/31/2005 07:00:25
    1. How the other half lives
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. http://www.cis.yale.edu/amstud/inforev/riis/title.html A fellow lister sent me this study and I think you will find it as interesting as I did. It is too good not to share. Don't forget to click on appendix.....lots of information there as well. Enjoy Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    07/30/2005 03:58:43
    1. Flaherty, Mc Aloon, Mc Elroy and Gallagher
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. The above listed families are related some how or other. Is anyone searching these lines? I know how Mc Aloon is related to Mc Elroy and how Mc Elroy is related to Gallagher. Mary Flaherty is buried with some of the above in Calvary and even though I know the date of burial a death certificate cannot be located at the Municipal Archives. I have asked Calvary if they know where the lady died but so far have no answer. They lived in Queens and Kings County and a Mc Aloon baby died while living in a tenement in Manhattan but had been treated by a Doctor in Brooklyn...and the undertaker was my great grandmother who was Catherine Gallagher widow of James Gallagher undertaker of Long Island City. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    07/29/2005 02:21:47
    1. FindUSA now Available at Godfrey
    2. Jim Garrity
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    07/28/2005 07:48:39
    1. FW: Millions of Records. Millions of Answers.
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
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    07/28/2005 04:11:47
    1. Re: COORDS Family
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/4300/WUB.2ACI/299.1 Message Board Post: I recently started to search my family and saw your message. My grandfather William Coords also was from Holland and the family lived in Queens Village. Do you know anything else about the Coords family?

    07/28/2005 02:08:23
    1. Re: "South Bay" in Hempstead circa. 1850's
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1335.1 Message Board Post: Janet - the body of water just south of Long Island is the Great South Bay. It's between the south shore of long Island and Fire Island

    07/27/2005 01:01:44
    1. Re: CRAIG - Queens NY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1012.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm am VERY sorry to hear that ! Does the Queens library have any ca 1950 telephone directories inhouse? Or do you know who may have them?

    07/25/2005 01:55:04
    1. Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War (SUVCW)
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. The goal of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War (SUVCW) National Grave Registration Project is to locate the final resting places of all Union Civil War Veterans, and enter that information into the Sons of the Union Veterans of the Civil War National Graves Registration Database [http://www.suvcwdb.org/home/] This undertaking is rather large and needs as many interested people to assist as possible. The form is available at [http://suvcw.org/ftp/gravform-fi.pdf] It can be viewed using Adobe Reader For those individuals who wish to register a large number of grave sites, please contact the National Graves Registration Officer for assistance. Updated or additional information for Civil War veterans previously registered should be marked "UPDATE" and sent to the above National Graves Registration Officer. Our Downloadable (MS Word format) or Online Readable/Printable (Portable Document File format) National Grave Registration Form and Information Packet is accessible by going to our SUVCW Forms, Documents, and National Proceedings web page. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    07/25/2005 01:23:20
    1. DNA Testing
    2. Elizabeth V Cardinal
    3. http://www.ftdna.com/ If anyone is interested this web site was published on another family history site. ` Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

    07/25/2005 08:43:28