You may find the following information as fascinating and mind boggling as a I did. In regards to Catholics marrying prior to a revision of Canon Law in 1908, they were NOT required to be married by a priest. Thus those of us searching for marriage records prior to 1908 often find ourselves stumped. We should be looking in all traditions...for example in my own family search the nearest German church to where the couple lived happened to be a Lutheran Church. WOW....you learn something new every day. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Zwack Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1437 Message Board Post: Found high school friend had died. Would like copy of obit for: Wilbur Zwack, dob 2 July, 1931, dod 14 Apr. 2005. Death residence locations Flushing, Queens, NY Graduated from Newtown High School Thanks, Barb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1436.1.1 Message Board Post: George, you are a wonder. My post was a shot in the dark; to score a "FIND" and so quickly is very gratifying. I thank you for your time, effort and expertise.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1436.1 Message Board Post: Greater Ridgewood Historical Society in Queens has the following news item in the files: From THE LEADER OBSERVER (Woodhaven NY) 5-25-1916 "BODY OF MISSING E.N.Y. WOMAN IN RESERVOIR --- Body of Mrs. Meltzer Found in Reservoir in Highland Park --- SHE HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE The mystery shrouding the sudden disappearance of Mrs. Jennie Meltzer, 42, from her home at 2292 Pitkin avenue since May 7, was solved when her body was found drowned in the Ridgewood Reservoir, Highland Park, Thursday night. Her identity was positively established by her husband, Morris, who said that she had been suffering intense nervousness for several days prior to her disappearance. The police say that her mental condition led her to suicide. She is survived by her husband and five children." If an obituary had been published in this issue or in the following week, the Society would have clipped it. Extracts and/or abstracts of the May 1916 issues of the RIDGEWOOD TIMES are also on file at the historical society and there apparently was no news item, obituary or death notice published in that newspaper.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Meltzer Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1436 Message Board Post: Greetings. I have a 1916 death certificate for Jennie MELTZER, indicating death by drowning at Ridgewood Reservoir, Highland Park, Cypress Hills, Queens, NY. The coroner estimated date of death as May 11, 1916, but apparently the body wasn't actually recovered until May 18 or 19. I am interested in any area newspaper coverage around this time. I have been unable to find anything in the NY Times, and don't have access to any Queens newspapers. Can anyone help out? I only need obituary information. I already have census and other data on this individual and her family. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help or make suggestions for pursuing this. Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1431.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Check out cemeteries at: www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/

Hi, I have done some research into my cousins Hungarian Jewish Grandparents and found them buried in Mt. Richmond Cemetery, 420 Clarke Avenue, Staten Island, NY. I do not have the phone number, but I am sure you could find them under yellowpages.com. I also came into contact with the "Hebrew Free Burial Association", located at 224 West 35th Street, Room 300, New York, New York 10001 - The phone number is 212-239-1662. They were the actual ones who found the right cemetery for me. Good luck! Sincerely, Marge Duffy Virgulak

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1426.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The printed indexes to births in New York City go back to 1881. I am not familiar with genealogical research for earlier periods. If you haven't yet explored the New York County message board, I recommend it to you. You can read the queries and responses or you can search that board for Municipal Archives. Reg Niles

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: byron schlesinger zillig Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1426.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you! Thank you! The information about finding births should prove very useful. Do these records go back to 1873, by any chance? We have a Francis-Frank Zillig supposed to be born in NY then, the year after his parents immigrated. We don't know if they were in the city or if they maybe went to Putman Co. before heading West. In any event, thanks to your wonderful information, I am going to try Cornell first. I have contacted them probably twice a year for several years but never had dates to give them to search for Dr. Byron. Here's hoping he kept in touch and now they can find information about him.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1426.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dr. Charles S. BYRON's office was at 345 Schermerhorn St. in Brooklyn, NY, according to the 1958 American Medical Directory, p. 973. He graduated in 1923 from Cornell University Medical College in New York City. The birthdate you have for him would be just after Queens county joined New York City, which I believe was Jan. 1, 1898. The doctor's birthdate may be printed in one of the annual birth indexes published in book form. One collection is at the New York Public Library on Fifth Avenue and West 42nd Street in Manhattan. Find the American History Division on the first floor. Request the birth index for New York City for five years---in case it was a delayed registration. It is cataloged as : New York (City). Health, Dept. of. Births Reported in [year], City of New York. At one time the library's class mark was 8-APRN (N.Y.C.) The Family History Library in Salt Lake City has it on microfilm and you could rent it at one of their branch libraries. The catalog entry is online at : http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C0%2C0&titleno=209636&disp=Births+reported+in+the+city+of+New+York++ Or you could skip the index and try to order the birth certificate directly. Reg Niles

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: byron schlesinger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1431.1.1 Message Board Post: Can you tell me about Jewish cemeteries? I am looking for Hungarian and Russian Jews who straddled the Brooklyn-Queens line. My husband's Hungarian grandmother died about 1906.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Byron Schlesinger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1426.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for a helpful reply! Does the 1958 medical directory say where in Brooklyn his office was? I am not sure if the SSDI listing in MI is the proper person, but I am very sure that Dr. Charles Stanford Byron was the son of Max Byron. Both Charles and Max registered for the WW1 draft listing the same address -1465 Dekalb Ave, Brooklyn, NY - and Charles named Max, his father, as closest relative. I have the children of Charles Byron and Lillian Schlesinger from the 1930 Census, Queens, Dist 616 858 Forest Ave. In addition, his office is listed in the 1935-1936 MEDICAL DIRECTORY OF NEW YORK QUEENS PHYSICIANS LIST BYRON, Charles S., 858 Forest av., Ridgewood The WW1 draft registration for Charles states he was born 15 Sept. 1898. The 1900 Census for Max Byron says son Charles was born June 1899. So birthday in doubt. This is why I came to the Queens list for help. The family did live in Queens. Did doctors of that time have Social Security? I thot maybe they did not and that was why I wasn't finding him on SSDI. However, Max Byron is listed on SSDI as born 3 July 1873 (WW1draft registration says born July 4), d. May 1972, last residence Flushing, Queens, NY. Seemed like I might have a chance of finding an obit, or family, for a Russian immigrant owning a painting and decorating center for many years, who lived almost to 100. How remarkable!

From Evergreen East to Puntine. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MMattes200@aol.com> To: <NYQUEENS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [QUEENS] Clayton pl? > It was Clayton Place till at least 1918, I don't know what it was named after > that. > > Mike in TX > > > What year do you have the reference for Clayton Place ? > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Archambault (RI), Barrett (MA/CT), Birdsey, Chilton, Clough, Curtiss, Dayton, Greene, Hawley, Hildrith, Keith, King (NY), Latham, Nichols, Pratt, Root, Smith, Travers, Ufford, Ward, Washburn, Winslow, Winton, Williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WUB.2ACI/1435 Message Board Post: I have been looking for My grandfathers history for 13 years. (My daughter asked me to write down some family history when my granddaughter was born). I have his marriage cert and his death cert but all they say is that he was born in NY. His name is Ernest King b 5/5/1872 NY. His eldest son was named Emile so I am guessing that it could be his fathers name. I'm not sure the last name is King, I suppose it could be Koenig. Country of origan is said to be Germany. I have information from the time he married on. He somehow got to Bridgeport CT and married a French Canadian girl on July 31, 1894. They are there for the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census. In 1930 he has left the family but his wife is listed as the head of the family. I have not found him in 1930.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1422.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you. I have done that, and have a couple of names that are possibly the one I am searching for. I do believe he was Naturalized in 1927. His wife was from Georgia. I'm searching all the county courthouse to see if I can locate a marriage certificate. You're very kind to take the time to post a message. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Franklin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1407.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks. We will start there. Bob

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1407.1.1 Message Board Post: You probably know about the Social Security Death Index : http://ssdi.rootsweb.com It lists an Abe FRANKLIN, born Dec. 18, 1890, who died at the time in your query (Nov. 1972). The last residence known to the Social Security Administration was in Richmond Hill, a section of the borough of Queens. When applying for a Social Security card, one fills out an SS-5 form listing birthplace and names of parents. After death, the SSA sells copies of the SS-5 to the public for $27.00. To apply, find Abe's entry, then click on "SS-5 Letter" on the right side. A form letter will be displayed on your screen, which you can print out and mail with the fee to the SSA. Then wait several months. Reg Niles

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1422.1.1.1 Message Board Post: If there is an age for Frank in the census, use arithmetic to obtain an approximate year of birth. Then put it in a new query, or use it to check the 94 hits for Frank FIORE in the Social Security Death Index : http://ssdi.rootsweb.com That website has an Advanced Search that will accept a year of birth. The wild card 188* would cover the decade of the 1880s, for example. The wild card Fran* would pick up men named Francis, if that is desired. Reg Niles

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1418.1 Message Board Post: I checked an online index of grooms : http://www.italiangen.org/NYCMarriage.stm They show a Francis DUNPHY, married Mar. 23, 1918 in Queens, marriage certificate no. 570. No bride is shown on the index. This is the year in which you believe Gertrude died---maybe from the Spanish flu. Further research on grooms can be done in the printed books issued by the New York City Dept. of Health. Perhaps they were microfilmed by the Family History Library (Salt Lake City). I am not familiar with the resources at the Municipal Archives in Manhattan, but there are a few experts that hang out at the New York County (of New York State) board at Ancestry.com. Reg Niles

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WUB.2ACI/1426.1 Message Board Post: The 1958 American Medical Directory has an alphabetical index to physicians, which confirms the middle name in your query, and says his office is in Brooklyn. The New York State section of the directory shows him in Brooklyn and says he was born in 1898, which confirms the year you posted. The Social Security Death Index has an entry for a Charles BYRON, born Aug. 2, 1898, died Mar. 1970, last known residence = Saginaw, MI. If you believe this to be the person of interest, use those facts to seek his obituary, which should list living relatives. Or seek a will in a county courthouse. To confirm the decedent on the SSDI is the son of Max costs $27.00. To do so, find his entry, then click on "SS-5 Letter." To post a free annotation (such as a plea for contact with relatives), click on "Add Post-em." Biographical information on physicians is also sold by the American Medical Association. The federal census of 1930, indexed by Ancestry.com, should list the children. Reg Niles