Hi Listers, I am looking for a Samuel Ellis that lived in Otsego in 1815 and before I believe. His son Stephen R. H. Ellis was reportedly born in Otsego County New York in 1815 according to Bible records I obtained while in New York state in 2003. I have pictures of other Ellis' gravestone I took while in New York state this year and I am trying to tie those folks to my Ellis'. Any help would be very helpful. Thank You very much. Marilyn {Ellis} Sage

Some more material (possibly familiar) on the Ellis line is included below. My supposition (and it is only that) is that Stephen Ellis of Yates county is the son of Samuel Ellis of New Lisbon, Otsego County. And that Samuel Ellis of New Lisbon is the son of Gideon Ellis, the long-lived Ellis of Aurelius, Cayuga County. My guess would be that in his old age Gideon lived next door to his son Samuel in New Lisbon in 1820, but then moved back to Aurelius, and ended his life with son Harvey. His widow (2nd wife, Esther) seems to have stayed in Aurelius, and the young Samuel Cole living with her might be a descendant (at least one Ellis married a Cole). All supposition, but might suggest some further leads. Hugh MacDougall Official Historian Village of Cooperstown 8 Lake Street, Cooperstown, NY 13326-1016 coophist@stny.rr.com --------------- 1810 US Census, New York, Cayuga County, Town of Aurelius, p. 55 Gideon Ellis 11201 11001} listed side by side, no other Ellis in town Samuel Ellis 00010 10100} 1820 US Census, New York, Otsego County, Town of New Lisbon, p. 128 Gideon Ellis 000001 01001 0000} listed side by side; no other Ellis in town Samuel Ellis 220001 10101 0300} 1830 US Census, New York, Cayuga County, Town of Aurelius, p. 187 Gideon Ellis 0000000001 000000001 1830 US Census, New York, Otsego County, Town of New Lisbon p. 264 Samuel Ellis, Jr. 00001 20111 p. 265 Silas Ellis 000001 110001 Samuel Ellis 00101001001 00010001001 1840 US Census, New York, Cayuga County, Town of Aurelius, p. H. L. Ellis 12110100001 1111001 [presumably Harvey Lewis Ellis, son of Gideon Ellis] 1840 US Census, New York, Yates County, Town of Starkey, p. 377 S. R. H. Ellis 0001 11011 1850 US Census, New York, Cayuga County, Town of Aurelius, p. 342, 226-252 Esther Ellis, white, female, age 56. Real property $500. Born NY Sam'l Cole, white, male, age 13. Born NY 1850 US Census, New York, Yates County, Town of Starkey, p. 161, 327-328 Stephen R. Ellis, white, male, age 34. Carpenter. Real property $100. Born NY Mary H. Ellis, white, female, age 32. Born NJ Caroline Ellis, white, female, age 12. Born NY. Attended school. Henry Ellis, white, male, age 11. Born NY. Attended school. Mary Ellis, white, female, age 8. Born NY. Attended school. James Ellis, white, male, age 6. Born NY. Attended school. Samuel Ellis, white, male, age 1. Born NY. Attended school. 1860 US Census, New York, Yates County, Town of Starkey, p. 821, 246-240 S.R.H. Ellis, white, male, age 43. Carpenter. Real property $100. Born NY M.H. Ellis, white, female, age 41. Born NJ J.S. Ellis, white, male, age 16. Born NY. Attended school. Sam'l Ellis, white, male, age 12. Born NY. Attended school 1870 US Census, New York, Yates County, Town of Starkey, p. 615B, 430-432 Stephen R.H. Ellis, white, male, age 54. Carpenter. Born NY Mary H. Ellis, white, female, age 53. Personal property $400. Born NY Samuel Ellis, white, male, age 22. Painter. Real property $600. Born NJ George Dennison, white, male, age19. At home. Born NY ======================= http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2959922&id=I811 A detailed genealogy of Gideon Ellis (1759-1841) of Cayuga County -- showing a son Samuel (1781-1830), who in 1806 married Polly Seymore (b. ca. 1785) However, Samuel is not credited with any child named Stephen -- see: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hpetty&id=I1522 Gideon has been identified as the son of Samuel Ellis (1686-1760) of Barnstable, Sandwich County, MA, and as the son of Gideon Ellis of West Greenwich, RI (1724-1793). I'm inclined to believe the Barnstable version, which has more adherents and details. For what it's worth, Barnstable seems to be equally full of Ellis's and Perry's. For the Rhode Island version see: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clairemf2&id=I3561 and It http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clairemf2&id=I3603 is also in William Richard Cutter, Genealogy and Family History of Western New York (Lewis Historical Publishing Co, 1912) pp.366-369.