Joe, This seems to be the universe of Knapps and Browns in Cherry Valley in 1800-1820 -- It would seem that all four Browns had little girls. 1800 US Census, New York, Otsego County, Town of Cherry Valley p. 2A Charles Brown 20101 20001 p. 4B Peter Brown 10100 10100 George Brown `00100 00100 p. 5A Jona(thon) Knapp 11001 11010 p. 5B Calvin Brown 40010 10010 1810 US Census, New York, Otsego County, Town of Cherry Valley p. 120 S.S. Brown 10010 31010 D. Brown 21010 41010 p. 124 D. Brown 01101 11101 W. Napp 11110 20110 J. Brown 20010 01010 T. Brown 00101 00101 J. Knapp 01001 10102 N. Knapp 00010 10100 1820 US Census, New York, Otsego County, Town of Cherry Valley p. 12 Isaac Knapp 100010 20100 0100 p. 18 Nathan Knapp 100020 41010 0100 p. 20 John Brown 111110 10110 0300 p. 21 Thomas Brown 000111 20010 0200 William R. Knapp 110001 11011 0200 ---------------------------------- Is this the right couple? It suggests that Frederick's father was named John Knapp (or could it be Jonathan?) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NYJEFFER/2003-01/1041470825 1 Maria Gertrude AHE(A)RN b: May 01, 1826 in Prescott, Grenville-Leeds Co., Ontario, Canada--possibly born aft. 1830 d: November 14, 1927 in 135 Bishop St., Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY .. +Frederick M. KNAPP b: Bet. 1815 - 1821 in New York--, Jefferson County, New York--Governor Knapp's Point, Wolfe Island, Ontario m: Abt. 1854 in NY or Canada d: Bet. 1900 - 1910 in Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY??/ Ontario, Canada Father: John KNAPP Mother: Jane?? ===================== http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahobits2.htm Maria (Ahearn) Knapp Mrs. Knapp was the widow of Frederick M. Knapp, who died about 20 years ago at the age of 96. ................ Surviving are four children: Mrs. Thomas M. Otis, Mrs. Charles J. Haley and Peter Knapp, all of this city, and John Knapp of Johnstown, Penna.; four grandchildren, Mrs. Johnson, with whom she made her home, Mrs. James F. Solar, Leo C. Haley and Emmett Otis, all of this city, and 35 great-grandchildren. .................. - Watertown Daily Times 15 November 1927 ========================== If so there is some stuff on a John (Jonathan) Knap with Canadian connections at: There is also information about a Jonathan Knapp (1750-1840) who went to Canada. http://devanfamily.us/DevanFamNames.html Knapp Moses Knapp b: Circa 1683-1688 a.. m: Ganda Adams 1.. David Knapp Bapt: 3/15/1712-13 Fairfield Co. CT, d: 3/7/1795 Redding (Reading) CT a.. Anna Meeker 10/24/1736 (widow of Isaac Meeker) 1.. Anna Knapp b: 7/29/1737; d: 1811 at Danbury, CT 2.. Auila Knapp b: 12/20/1738; d: 9/11/1760 at Fort Edward (French and Indian War) 3.. Priscilla Knapp b: 3/8/1741; d: ?? 4.. Lois Knapp b: 1/1/1743/44; d: 5/6/1833 at Redding, CT, age 90 a.. m: John Davern date unk 5.. David Knapp b: 5/18/1745; d: 1769 6.. Jonathan Knapp b: 3/6/1750; d: Circa 1840 in Canada ================ Rootsweb listings for Jonathan Knapp, son of David Knapp: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mmunoz&id=I52236 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2423905&id=I517745810 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2669480&id=I543680623 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2669480&id=I543682729 ======================== Hugh MacDougall Official Historian Village of Cooperstown 8 Lake Street, Cooperstown, NY 13326-1016 coophist@stny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <CamCoQuikSearch@aol.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] BROWN family, Otsego Co., NY > HI List....recently found that my GGGgrandfather Frederick M. KNAPP was > born > 1815 in Cherry Valley, Otsego Co., NY....just received his death > cert.....it > states that his mother was a Jane BROWN....she was born ca 1791..trying to > find > her family...anyone have anything on an early BROWN family from Cherry > Valley > or Otsego Co., NY in this time period??.....Jane was supposedly born in > Scotland...any help appreciated....thanks...Joe > > >