Gloria, In an earlier posting of yours Nov 16 you state you are interested in Smith, Amos and John Sutherland of Otsego County. What John Sutherland are you referring to and what are his dates, birth and death? My Sutherlands are using over and over William and John so maybe there is a connection. Have you looked at the Coxsackie, Albany County 1790 census? There are on the same page William, Joel and Smith Sutherland. ( There was also a Reuben and Daniel Sutherland in this 1790 census). I believe there may be a connection of these people and have some information, iffy as it may be, that my William came from the Albany area perhaps arriving there from England or Scotland and that is where he met wife Nancy Ann Yarnes. Any clues or more bricks?? Winnie