My grandmother did a lot of great genealogy work, but I'm still trying to confirm that this family group existed as shown below, and if it did, who were the parents of the father, Reuben, and when and where was Reuben born? What was Dorcas' maiden name? Here's what Grandma wrote: Children of Reuben and Dorcas (_) IRONS: Levi Emer James Stephen Orlando Reuben John F (my great great grandfather, born 1811) Abagail Clarisa Phoebe This family may have lived in Otsego County NY, possibly near Hartwick, and the parents Reuben and Dorcas may have been born in Rhode Island. Other info leads me to believe that John F did indeed have a brother Orlando, as John F and Orlando jointly purchased land in Hartwick, Otsego County, NY in 1834. In 1834 John F married in Hartwick a girl born in Hartwick. In 1835 John F sent a letter from Cazenovia NY to his wife and newborn child back in Hartford "via Orlando". A Hartwick historian once wrote "Asa, John and Reuben Irons, probably brothers, came from Rhode Island in 1793 and leased land for farming". One of those 3 might be my ancestor...but which one? Censuses did not help at all, as all IRONSes in the 1820 census of NY had at least 1 male child under 10. Any info on this family group and parents thereof greatly appreciated. Marty Irons k2mi@frontiernet.net All e-mail scanned by Norton 2005 anti-virus, updated online daily. Thank God we live in a country where we have the option to vote. People living in other countries are not always so fortunate. Election Day is Tuesday November 8th, 2005. If you haven't yet registered to vote, now is a good time to do so. Election inspector, Town of Goshen, NY, 11/08/2005