Another thought: I do not blame Rootsweb for allowing people to post information on living people -- or copyrighted material -- or whatever. They do not have time to inspect and edit every file. That would be an enormous task! It is entirely the fault of the persons doing the posting. I do think, however, that all of these sites -- Ancestry, Rootsweb, etc. -- should allow the person whose information is posted without permission to be the one to request it's removal -- rather than only being willing to remove it on the request of the poster -- which is what most of them do. This has been an interesting discussion. If nothing else, perhaps it will cause all of us to be much more careful. Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe Seal Beach, CA SueMHR@aol.com "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead, 1901-1978

Hi Sue ~ Thanks for your input. You have so often helped me and others here before. I agree about Ancestry and Rootsweb just doing a service and it not being all their fault, since it would be impossible to monitor. I personally wrote the person (at first very politely)who posted my data ( I had blindly shared with her MUCH data before it was even published) But she had begged me and begged me for it, and promised to use it privately. So I relented said ok and mailed it to her by snailmail, as it was a lot of material! To my dismay I accidentally found it all posted when I was searching Ancestry one day, which really shocked and surprised me, since she knew I was publishing a book soon.. I wrote her and asked why she did that when she had promised not to, and she merely laughed in my face. I told her after that she had violated the #1 rule in Genealogy and that is trust in sharing information. She said she posted my name as to the resource of the material, but because the book isn't published as of yet, and the earlier data hasn't been proven, I didn't want it posted. She took that right away from me which really angered me since I trusted her. Like you say, we just have to learn to be more careful. I need to learn to hold my cards closer to myself, so to speak. But it is people like the one mentioned that ruined it for others because they violate a trust when people share their research. Of course I will not sue her, for Copyright Violation, but that is what she did. I (over many years) Compiled thousands upon thousands of people to my Sargent Data of Otsego and South New Berlin. I was lucky enough to go from 200 people(from an ancestor's early book...which I DID NOT COPY verbatim but used as guide) to about 5,000 today. No other member of my line has done that.It was entirely my notes and my work, except for my cited sources, but my compilations. I have gone back to 1670 on this line and I did a lot of research myself and paid a lot of money out to research Libraries to get official documents etc.(she didn't) So when a person does this. It makes your heart sink a little I guess. I was very disappointed she would not cooperate and take it down so I wrote Ancestry@ Customer Solutions. They said it will take some time before anyone gets back on me about it, but I suspect they will not remove it. MY NSDAR material is copyrighted though...Is it not? She copied all that too and posted it with out my authorization. It may be ok in some peoples eyes but something isn't right when another can take all your work, and the $$ you put into a project and incorporate into theirs and just post it, ...Like they did the work. Guess I just got stung, and it won't happen again! I need to be more smart about it, and less trusting. Penny ----- Original Message ----- From: <SueMHR@aol.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [NYOTSEGO] Rootsweb > Another thought: I do not blame Rootsweb for allowing people to post > information on living people -- or copyrighted material -- or whatever. They do not > have time to inspect and edit every file. That would be an enormous task! > It is entirely the fault of the persons doing the posting. I do think, > however, that all of these sites -- Ancestry, Rootsweb, etc. -- should allow the > person whose information is posted without permission to be the one to request > it's removal -- rather than only being willing to remove it on the request of the > poster -- which is what most of them do. > > This has been an interesting discussion. If nothing else, perhaps it will > cause all of us to be much more careful. > Sue > > Susan M. Hillier Roe > Seal Beach, CA > SueMHR@aol.com > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." > Margaret Mead, 1901-1978 > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in digest mode send an email with > the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message > to the following address: NYOtsego-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.637 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 3/20/04