Stella Rifenbark Morse died in 1947. Ralph mentions her but does not make any mention of children. I will probably end up donating this little booklet to the Gilbertsville Library. Karen Flanders Eddy

What if his wife is still alive? can she give permission? -----Original Message----- From: Karen Eddy [mailto:CapnScupsGGD@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 8:21 AM To: NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYOTSEGO] advice needed After doing a little sleuthing, I found that Ralph Dewey Morse died in 1977 and is buried in Unadilla's Evergreen Cemetery. Big sigh. That means this little gem of a booklet can't be posted for another 23 years. For the record, his wife was Stella Rifenbark. Ralph was a descendant of Sluman Wattles. Karen Flanders Eddy ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

You can always try to track down his heirs, and get permission to place the booklet online. So long as there is no intention to reprint, people are often pleased to have material made available to a wider audience. I have frequently obtained permission from authors and copyright holders to place material on line on my James Fenimore Cooper website -- sometimes including whole full-length books. Hugh MacDougall Official Historian Village of Cooperstown 8 Lake Street, Cooperstown, NY 13326-1016 coophist@stny.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Eddy" <CapnScupsGGD@msn.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [NYOTSEGO] advice needed > After doing a little sleuthing, I found that Ralph Dewey Morse died in 1977 and is buried in Unadilla's Evergreen Cemetery. Big sigh. That means this little gem of a booklet can't be posted for another 23 years. For the record, his wife was Stella Rifenbark. Ralph was a descendant of Sluman Wattles. > > Karen Flanders Eddy >

After doing a little sleuthing, I found that Ralph Dewey Morse died in 1977 and is buried in Unadilla's Evergreen Cemetery. Big sigh. That means this little gem of a booklet can't be posted for another 23 years. For the record, his wife was Stella Rifenbark. Ralph was a descendant of Sluman Wattles. Karen Flanders Eddy

I am a descendant of John Coffin born about 1778 and died December 29 1861 in Troupsburg, NY--Steuben County He had children Jane M. b. 1808; William B b. November 14, 1810 (who I descend through); Sarah b. Sept. 1, 1811; John R. b. June 6, 1815; Eliza Jane b. June 12, 1820; Apphia b. January 19, 1823 and Enoch L. b. about 1827. His second wife was Phebe Dutton born August 22, 1786 and died Dec. 3, 1863. I have been trying to find out who John's parents were for quite awhile now abd with no luck. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Marlene Andes Krenshawa@aol.com

Hi All original work is copyrighted regardless of notice... it's automatic... that aside... see below, the copyright is good for 50 years after the author's death...so if the author died before 1954 you're ok to republish... your "edited" work will have the advantage of copyright until 50 years after your death unless you expressly waive your right. "Copyright law protects the exclusive right of originators of "works" to publish and re-publish their work. This protection applies regardless of whether the work in question is published (such as a book or an annual report) or not (such as an internal company memo), and whether someone has put it out in the public domain (such as on a website) or not. This protection expires after the space of 50 years following the death of the originator, regardless of who holds copyright at that time. However, it is the created expression of the originator which is protected by law, not "ideas," "words" or "facts." There are therefore useful benchmarks by which one can evaluate whether one needs to obtain permission from the originator in order to use material in one's own work, such as theses, research projects, journal articles, etc., which are intended for publication. Ken Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Eddy" <CapnScupsGGD@msn.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] advice needed > I have a very small (18 pages) paper-bound booklet called Unadilla in its First Century. I can't for the life of me remember where or how I picked this up. It was written by Ralph Dewey Morse (March 2, 1880-?) sometime around 1947, and it was obviously privately printed. There is NO copyright information, and NO disclaimer anywhere. I would like to be able to post this little book to this list for inclusion to the GenWeb site. Would I be able to? > > Karen Flanders Eddy > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

http://140.186.109.142/bgr/BGR-p/master_index.htm<http://140.186.109.142/bgr/BGR-p/master_index.htm> While I wait for an answer to my last question, I thought I'd pass along this site. Many of the descendants of Tristram Coffin and Dionis Stevens of Nantucket moved to New York. The above url will take you to the Eliza Barney Starbuck records. There are a few Otsego County people in there, and I remember one Unadilla person. Karen Flanders Eddy

I have a very small (18 pages) paper-bound booklet called Unadilla in its First Century. I can't for the life of me remember where or how I picked this up. It was written by Ralph Dewey Morse (March 2, 1880-?) sometime around 1947, and it was obviously privately printed. There is NO copyright information, and NO disclaimer anywhere. I would like to be able to post this little book to this list for inclusion to the GenWeb site. Would I be able to? Karen Flanders Eddy

Hiya folks. I am looking for some information and perhaps you can point me to a cooperative contacst who could help me. I am looking for someone, my aunt, who lived at 36 Beekman Avenue, N. Tarrytown in February 1944. It is the last contact I have of her and we figure that perhaps tracing the landowner may give some clues. Other possibilities: First Name: Patience/Omeda/Peg/Margo/Margaret (She went by Peg and Omeda when we knew her) Last Name: On birth certificate: Patience Eckerson although she went by "Gras" Birthdate: 11/21/21 in Seward, NY She attended school in Otego, NY. She married William Dietrich after 1944. He was in the military. We think the army. -- Would someone be willing to find out who the landowner was at 36 Beekman for me? -- Does anyone know some kind souls/historians/cooperative town clerks I could contact or visit? -- If I went to Tarrytown/Sleep Hollow, can anyone give me pointers of whom to see? -- She lived on Beekman in N. Tarrytown and visited Sufferen and Patterson - does anyone know of folks that still live in the area that I could contact? -- Am I asking the right questions??? Any pearls of information you could share, we would be grateful for. Thanks in advance, Cindy

In a message dated 2/25/04 8:21:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, Strawn118@msn.com writes: << is buried on his property.-I guess you know Rufus is buried in Robinson's Corner Cem in Edmeston along with his wife and daughter?-I know this is not helping you a lot but I fell strongly there is a connection between Susannah and Rufus. >> Byron, I agree and I thought it was an excellent match in the Edmeston Cemetery for my Betsy but I know she lived a lot longer than forty some years as she was in her 70s when she was living with my g.grandparents, the Fuller family in Otego. It sure makes you stop and wonder what the heck is going on with all these familiar names. I am printing your email and saving it in case I have more information to share. Bill Beardslee and I went to school together in New Berlin. We still keep in touch. Elaine

Hi Elaine. I have been waiting to reply about Rufus Graves but I think, but not sure yet, he is a brother to my 4th great grandmother, Susannah Graves. Susannah Graves Goodrich came to Pittsfield in 1793 from Pittsfield MA, along with her husband Hubbard Goodrich. I believe Rufus came a little later. I have been looking for Susannah's parents for a long time. In her married record it stated she was from Granville, MA. I have been there and talked with the librarian from Granville but they don't have any records that far back but I feel there are too many time Rufus show up by Susannah. Hubbard and Susannah moved to Otselic in Chenango Co about 1825 but their son Alphues Goodrich moved to South Edmeston where he build his house on Goodrich road. Susannah and Hubbard are buried in Otselic cem. We found their graves in 1999 when we visit Bill Beardsley who is taken care of the grave of my other 4th great grandmother, Tamar Fairchild who is buried on his property.-I guess you know Rufus is! buried in Robinson's Corner Cem in Edmeston along with his wife and daughter?-I know this is not helping you a lot but I fell strongly there is a connection between Susannah and Rufus. Let me hear what you think? Byron Strawn--- Original Message ----- From: ElaineDecker@cs.com To: NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:05 AM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Rufus GRAVES, Jr. of Edmeston Early 1800's I might have found my third g.grandfather, who might be Rufus GRAVES, Jr., the Abstracts of wills of Otsego County, N.Y. His will was probated on 1/21/1818 and it mentions a wife, Betsy. I do know that my 3rd. g.grandmother's name was Betsy, who was b. abt. 1792. It also mentions a son, William H. Executors are William Hoag and Amos B. GRAVES (relative)? Witnesses are Samuel Fitch, Benjamin Hoag, Abner Fitch and Amos Slocum. I know that I have to go over to Oneonta and find this will when I am sure I won't get snowed in and stuck, but in the meantime, does anyone know anything about the GRAVES family in Otsego County? Thanks, Elaine ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I was wondering if there is a listing in Hartwick for Pleasant Valley, sometimes called "Adams" cemetery, located on the old farm of Ebenezer Hubbard? Also, if there was evidence of other old stones, perhaps placed there before it was designated a cemetery? Joanne Hubbard Benne

Hi Marty, If no one has this list, try contacting the historian. Sometimes the village/town clerk has this information too. Good Luck, Rene' -------Original Message------- From: NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com Date: 02/25/04 11:22:15 To: NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Need inscriptions from "Field" cemetery, Hartwick The postings at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyotsego/cemetery.htm are wonderful, and I commend those who helped put it together. I need to get inscriptions from the "Field" family cemetery just NE of the village of Hartwick. In particular, I need inscriptions of anyone named IRONS buried there, and I know there are quite a few. Many of the tombstones were unreadable, but I'm hoping that they were transcribed earlier. Can anyone help? Marty Irons All e-mail scanned by Norton 2003. May all your ancestors YELL at you, telling you how and where to find them. PS: John F Irons (1811-1854 Cazenovia NY)... please yell louder. ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

The postings at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyotsego/cemetery.htm are wonderful, and I commend those who helped put it together. I need to get inscriptions from the "Field" family cemetery just NE of the village of Hartwick. In particular, I need inscriptions of anyone named IRONS buried there, and I know there are quite a few. Many of the tombstones were unreadable, but I'm hoping that they were transcribed earlier. Can anyone help? Marty Irons All e-mail scanned by Norton 2003. May all your ancestors YELL at you, telling you how and where to find them. PS: John F Irons (1811-1854 Cazenovia NY)... please yell louder.

Hello Evelyn, I'm glad someone was pleased to receive the old obit. It was on a page with something else I printed out last year, and I realized there was a chance someone might want it. I am not connected to the Smith line. Glad to have helped you! ~Nancy > Nancy, > > I hope you do not mind if I hop in with some SMITH information. I have a > connection to Capt. Isaac Smith through his marriage to SUSAN DENSMORE daughter > of JOHN DENSMORE and ELIZABETH AMOS. > I hope this will be a thank you for adding the Obit of Capt. Isaac Smith as I > did not have a copy of it and very much appreciate the fact that you took the > time to send it to this list. > > My 3rd great grandmother was a SOPHIA DENSMORE a sister I believe to SUSAN > DENSMORE. > > Agasin thank you. > > Evelyn Ruth (Moore) Frank > Michigan and Florida > > > > > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Nancy, I hope you do not mind if I hop in with some SMITH information. I have a connection to Capt. Isaac Smith through his marriage to SUSAN DENSMORE daughter of JOHN DENSMORE and ELIZABETH AMOS. Susan was born 20 January 1776/77 in Hardwick, Worcester County, Massachusetts and died 21 February 1809/19 in Richfield, Otsego County, New York (Source Father Daniel Nosh, St. Luke's Church Records, 1806 for death information). Children: JOHN L. SMITH b 17 September 1796 Richfield, Otsego County, NY d 31 July 1838 Leavenworth, Crawford County, Indiana mar. Mary Lyon 23 June 1822 LUCIA SMITH b 25 March 1801, Richfield, Otsego County, New York d. 24 January 1878/79, Belleville, Wayne County, Michigan. Mar. ALANSON ELY 27 September 1827 in Monticello, Otsego County, New York, son of SAMUEL ELY and FANNY COOLEY. He was born 08 September 1804 in Warren, Herkimer County, New York and died 09 July 1871 in Belleville, Wayne County, Michigan. According to Wayne County Website - Lucia Ely Estate, late of Plainfield, deceased. Probate of Will adjourned to April 21st. WT 4-15-79 page 3 col. 2 Several children listed. SHOULD ANYONE WISH NAMES ETC., I CAN MAIL PRIVATELY. SOPHIA SMITH b. 17 1802/03 Richfield, Otsego County, New York d 10 April 1881 Belleville, Wayne County, Michigan. Mar. TIMOTHY CLARK 28 March 1821 in Richfield, Otsego County, New York. He was b. 3 June 1794 in Connecticut and died 19 November 1831 in Belleville, Wayne County, Michigan. Several children. Again if wish can send information. ISAAC D. SMITH b. 03 September 1806 Richfield, Otsego County, New York mar. Saphrona Beardsley on 09 February 1822/23, Monticello, Otsego County, New York b. 1808 DANIEL DANA SMITH b. 23 February 1807/08 Edmeston, Otsego County, New York d. 28 February 1829/30, Richfield, Otsego County, New York. Listed as DANA D, SMITH on gravestone on Otsego County website. I think he is buried at St. Luke's Cemetery. SUSAN DUNSMORE SMITH b 17 February 1809/10, Richfield, Otsego County, New York Marr. JEFFERSON KING on 05 December 1828 in Richfield, Otsego County, New York - Children - at least 3. Spellings differ on the name of DINSMOOR, DINSMORE, DUNSMOOR, DUNSMORE, DENSMORE, DENSMOOR - depending on how each person decided to spell it. The name did come of Scotland at about 1596 with a Laird DUNSMOOR/DUNSMORE. Several of his sons went to Northern Ireland and later to the American Colonies. I hope this will be a thank you for adding the Obit of Capt. Isaac Smith as I did not have a copy of it and very much appreciate the fact that you took the time to send it to this list. My 3rd great grandmother was a SOPHIA DENSMORE a sister I believe to SUSAN DENSMORE. Agasin thank you. Evelyn Ruth (Moore) Frank Michigan and Florida

Dear Otsego Researchers: I am trying to prove the dates of death and places of burial for my CHASE family in the Westford/ Maryland/Hartwick area. The individuals are: Dean Chase b 1750 Swansea, MA his wife Lucretia (BIGELOW) Chase 1759 Holden, Worcester, MA their son Jared Chase b 1786 Guilford, VT his first wife Harriet (PRESTON) Chase b 1789 CT, whose parents, Eliphalet and Chlorinda (Kennedy) Preston also should be buried in the area. his 2nd wife Polly (PARMELEE) Johnson Chase b 1792 Litchfield, CT and died Oct 1868, according to her daughter Celestia Chase Bliss Antisdel's biographical letter. and Luther Johnson, who died some time before 1735 who was Polly Parmelee's first husband. Thank you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

Nancy sent this to my Dutchess list, but said it had been refused by the Otsego List (perhaps she's not a member) and requested that someone forward it. Jean From: "Nancy Davis" <ndavis1@san.rr.com>, February 11, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: [NYDUTCHE] Fw: WWI record Someone requested WW1 info. Friend provided it. I'm sending it to West. and Dutchess but I keep getting a reject for Otsego. Will some kind person send it to that list because I don't remember which list the inquiry was from. Thanks I don't remember exactly where I found it but this is information I got off the internet and kept in my fiiles ..... Service completed before WWI = The oldest records pertaining to military service veterans are at the National Archives, for service that was completed before the following dates: ARMY - enlisted, 11/1/1912, officer, 7/1/1917, NAVY - enlisted, 1/1/1886, officer, 1/1/1903, MARINE CORPS - 1/1/1905, COAST GUARD - 1/1/1898. National Archives Trust Fund (NATF) forms must be used to request these records. Obtain these forms by email from inquire@nara.gov or write to National Archives Records Admin., Old Military and Civil Records (NWTCB-Military), Textual Services Division, 700 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W., Washington, D.C. 20408-0001. For records of later service a form is available at http://www.nara.gov/regional/mprs/180.html or a search of the NARA website at http://www.archives.gov/index.html It doesn't take long to get the form but seems an eternity before the record arrives. I have found the burial places of a couple of military ancestors on the website www.findagrave.com and on www.interment.net. The military is slowly listing all burials in National Cemeteries, gives you a start on birth, death.

Thank you for the sites! Deanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy" <joykiel@localnet.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Samuel F.B. Morse > Deanna, > > These are three good sites to learn more about Samuel F.B. Morse. http://www.morsehistoricsite.org/ and http://www.morsesociety.org/morslinx.shtml and http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/sfbmhtml/sfbmhome.html > > > Joy > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in digest mode send an email with > the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message > to the following address: NYOtsego-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Deanna, These are three good sites to learn more about Samuel F.B. Morse. http://www.morsehistoricsite.org/ and http://www.morsesociety.org/morslinx.shtml and http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/sfbmhtml/sfbmhome.html Joy