I, too, would like more information on this family. Cornelia Washburn would be a sister to my gggrandfather. I will write to you privately. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty" <k2mi@frontiernet.net> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Seek living descendants of Abel CALKINS 1751 CT - 1813 NY > > I would like to contact any living descendants of my > 4th great grandparents: > > Abel CALKINS > b 27 Oct 1751 Norwich, New London, CT > d 30 Dec 1813 Hartwick, Otsego, NY > > m1 Sarah Manning AVERY > dau of Elisha AVERY & Sarah MANNING > b 20 Sep 1755 Norwich, New London, CT > d 8 Jul 1793 Lisbon CT > > children of 1st marriage: > > 1 Abel CALKINS > b 22 Jun 1783 Norwich, New London, CT > d 24 Mar 1844 Edmeston, Otsego, NY > m 15 Sep 1803 > Sylvina/Malvina SAFFORD > 7 children: > Abel m Cornelia WASHBURN > Lucy m Samuel BOYD > Sally > Darius > Chauncey > Russel m (?) 2 children > Mary M CALKINS m John F IRONS > > 2 Elisha Avery CALKINS > bpt 25 Jul 1793 Norwich, New London, CT > > 3 Anna CALKINS > m date unk > Oliver SWAN > > 4 Mary CALKINS > m date unk > Rufus HAWKINS > 1 child - Rufus Jr > > 5 Sarah CALKINS > m date unk > Ezra Green JONES > > m2 date unk > Mary _____ > > no known issue of 2nd marriage > > I have a great deal of information on the ancestors > of Abel CALKINS and Sarah Manning AVERY which I will > gladly share with their living descendants. > > Marty Irons > for private responses, click on: > mailto:k2mi@frontiernet.net > > All e-mail scanned by Norton 2003, updated online daily. > > May all your ancestors YELL at you, > telling you how and where to find them. > > PS: John F Irons (1811-1854 Cazenovia NY)... > please yell louder. >

I would like to contact any living descendants of my 4th great grandparents: Abel CALKINS b 27 Oct 1751 Norwich, New London, CT d 30 Dec 1813 Hartwick, Otsego, NY m1 Sarah Manning AVERY dau of Elisha AVERY & Sarah MANNING b 20 Sep 1755 Norwich, New London, CT d 8 Jul 1793 Lisbon CT children of 1st marriage: 1 Abel CALKINS b 22 Jun 1783 Norwich, New London, CT d 24 Mar 1844 Edmeston, Otsego, NY m 15 Sep 1803 Sylvina/Malvina SAFFORD 7 children: Abel m Cornelia WASHBURN Lucy m Samuel BOYD Sally Darius Chauncey Russel m (?) 2 children Mary M CALKINS m John F IRONS 2 Elisha Avery CALKINS bpt 25 Jul 1793 Norwich, New London, CT 3 Anna CALKINS m date unk Oliver SWAN 4 Mary CALKINS m date unk Rufus HAWKINS 1 child - Rufus Jr 5 Sarah CALKINS m date unk Ezra Green JONES m2 date unk Mary _____ no known issue of 2nd marriage I have a great deal of information on the ancestors of Abel CALKINS and Sarah Manning AVERY which I will gladly share with their living descendants. Marty Irons for private responses, click on: mailto:k2mi@frontiernet.net All e-mail scanned by Norton 2003, updated online daily. May all your ancestors YELL at you, telling you how and where to find them. PS: John F Irons (1811-1854 Cazenovia NY)... please yell louder.

Petitions to be U.S. Citizens: NY - Cayuga - Petitions for Naturalizations Vol. 7-17 (1920-1927) (15 May 2004) ongoing Indexes of Will Testators (who wrote wills, died, leaving inheritances to heirs or screwing them out of their inheritances) NY - Otsego Vol. 11 (repaired) (1859-1862 (16 May 2004) NY - Madison - Vol. 37-38 (1891-1893) (16 May 2004 PA - Philadelphia - Vol. R (1777-1781) (16 May 2004) PA - Somerset Vol. 8 (1896-1902) (16 May 2004) NY - Columbia Vol. T. (1889-1892) (16 May 2004) http://www.sampubco.com/ FREE ACCESS W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

I'm searching for Eunice & Ruhama Allen who were Christened in Weston, Fairfield Co., CT in Jan. 1798, daus. of Benjamin and Ruhama (Bulkley) Allen. Benjamin and Ruhama came to Schoharie Co., NY before 1808. Later, Benjamin, and possibly his wife went to Cherry Valley, Otsego Co., NY, where Benj. died in 1843. So, looking for anyone who has a Eunice or Ruhama who were b. abt. 1797/98 in CT. Thanks, Marc Archer in Flint, MI

Hello..Am new to this site.. Have searched and searched for parents of Jane Phillips who married Geo. W. Hanford son of Stephen Hanford and Mary Hoyt who are buried on Dunk Hill. Geo and Jane Hanford are buried in Walton. She was living in Chas. City, Iowa with her daughter Mary Miles w/o of Henry Miles of Deposit area. Apparently her body was sent back to Walton and was buried with husband George. She died Sept 1893. He died August of 1880. Geo. W. Hanford had several siblings who lived in the area. Angeline Hanford Mallory, Harriet Hanford Rogers, Mary Hanford Basset, James Madison Hanford who moved to CA, Eliza Hanford Wakeman. Geo. & Jane Phillips Hanford are my gr.gr. grandparents. Stephen Hanford is a descendant of James Richards of the Rev. War.--any help would be greatly appreciated. Pattengills are also related.

Hi - Looking for information on Amanda Williamson, a mid-19th century resident of northern Otsego County or southern Herkimer County, around Richfield Springs, NY. She was my g-g-grandmother. Dean Ames McCallum

Does anyone have a connection to or knowledge of the ancestry of any of the following descendants of John F IRONS and Mary M CALKINS/CAULKINS of Cazenovia, Madison, NY. If so, please contact me. Related families are: Arnold Beers, Blowers, Booth Calkins/Caulkins Eamans/Eamons Gott Martin McDaniel Miller Pangborn Randall, Riedl Tracy Williamson Young DESCENDANTS OF: JOHN F IRONS and MARY M CALKINS: JOHN F IRONS b. 30-APR-1811 d. 08-JUL-1854 in Cazenovia, Madison, NY m. 03-SEP-1834 MARY M CALKINS b. 20-FEB-1814 Hartwick, Otsego, NY, d. 01-SEP-1910 in Syracuse, Onondaga, NY . * VIRGIL P IRONS b. 12-OCT-1835 d. 08-APR-1912 m. 24-DEC-1855 LUCY WILLIAMSON b. CA 1836 d. 22-MAY-1863 . . m. 1863-75 ELLA BOOTH b. CA 1848 d. 16-AUG-1915 . . * GEORGE L IRONS b. 1868 d. AFT 1919 m. MARY OLIVE RANDALL b. 1870 . . * FOSTER HUNTINGTON IRONS b. CA 1870 . . * LEONORA IRONS b. CA 1882 d. BEF 1958 m. HARRY H BEERS b. CA 1882-84 d. 20-SEP-1963 . . * FLORENCE B IRONS b. CA 1883/4 . * DANIEL W IRONS b. 22-MAR-1839 d. BEF 1911 m. 17-MAR-1864 BESSIE (BETSY) ARNOLD b. CA 1847 . . * KITTIE IRONS b. CA 1865 . . * MARY IRONS b. CA 1870 . . * JAY IRONS b. CA 1872 . * CHARLES AVERY IRONS b. 18-JUL-1840 d. 20-JUN-1928 . * ? IRONS b. 04-FEB-1842 d. 1842 . * THURLOW CAULKINS IRONS b. 05-NOV-1843 d. 02-DEC-1923 m. ADA PANGBORN b. 1853 d. 21-OCT-1883 m. 1885 MARCIA A TRACY b. 1856 d. 26-JAN-1934 . . * MAGGIE MAY IRONS b. 23-OCT-1869 . . * EMMA IRONS b. CA 1872 . . * CARRIE IRONS b. CA 1873 . . * FANNY IRONS b. CA 1875 . . * LILLIE A IRONS b. 1880 d. 21-JAN-1952 m. 09-SEP-1912 ALBERT EARL RIEDL . . * HARRY IRONS b. AFT 1884 . . * MAY BELLE IRONS b. 16-JUN-1886 d. 07-NOV-1940 m. 27-MAR-1909 JOHN THOMAS MILLER . * ALLISON E IRONS b. 18-SEP-1847 d. 23-JUN-1928 m. LILLIAN DALE CREGS d. 14-DEC-1927 . * JOHN EMER IRONS b. 31-DEC-1849 d. 18-APR-1912 in Whitesboro, Oneida, NY m. APR 1874 MARY WILLIAMSON b. CA 1855 d. 12-JUN-1888 . . m. NORAH WESTCOTT b. 1867 d. 05-JUN-1947 . . * JOHN HENRY IRONS b. 12-JAN-1875 d. 07-NOV-1956 in Lake Worth, FL m. 431-MAY-1899 HATTIE LOUISE MARTIN in Lake Worth, FL b. 23-OCT-1874 d. 04-JUN-1977 . . * ARTHUR LANDON IRONS b. 29-SEP-1879 d. 19-OCT-1927 m. 18-AUG-1906 MAYME GOTT b. 30-OCT-1878 d. AFT 1971, Rochester, Ontario, NY . . * EMER WESTCOTT IRONS b. 08-NOV-1892 d. 07-DEC-1955 m. 16-OCT-1920 DORIS EVELYN BLOWERS b. 08-APR-1901 d. 03-AUG-1992 . . * FLORENCE LOUISE IRONS b. 28-OCT-1893 d. 01-FEB-1971 . . * HOWARD STEVEN IRONS b. 01-MAY-1902 d. 20-JAN-2001 m. 25-JUL-1925 GLADYS AUGUSTA YOUNG b. 18-DEC-1903 d. 14-MAY-1990 . * EMMA E IRONS b. 09-OCT-1853 d. 19-DEC-1927, prob. in Syracuse, Onondaga, NY m. JOHN H EAMAN b. CA 1843 d. AFT 1880, poss. in Syracuse, Onondaga, NY . . * HARRY L EAMAN b. 09-NOV-1878 d. 07-FEB-1920 . * FRANK B IRONS b. 12-JAN-1855 d. 27-JAN-1928 m. EMILY HOOPER b. 26-AUG-1853 d. 16-DEC-1925 . . * CARRIE BIXBY IRONS b. 02-MAR-1885 d. 02-NOV-1965 m. 19-FEB-1902 JOHN ANTHONY MCDANIEL JR b. 29-SEP-1884 d. 11-MAY-1959 Thanks. Marty Irons Goshen, NY for private responses, click on: mailto:k2mi@frontiernet.net All e-mail scanned by Norton 2003, updated online daily. May all your ancestors YELL at you, telling you how and where to find them. PS: John F Irons (1811-1854 Cazenovia NY)... please yell louder.

Thank you so much. I desc. from the Jeremiah after first husband Edward Pratt died she married Andrew Sill. How much do I owe you? Thanks Again Tracy Hogan 145 Clapper Rd Selkirk NY 12158 In a message dated 4/29/2004 2:29:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, kperkins1@stny.rr.com writes: Hi- You are lucky I was taking a neighbor to the Court House this afternoon to prove to her one could find a will without having the date of death. Which we did ! While I was there looked for Mary Sill. her will was in Book F but on page 75. I had it copied 4 pages. Now I need your snail mail address to mail it to you. I thought I had it but guess I lost it in the shuffle. Mary was of Burling ton and a widow and ? of Andrew Sill of Saybrook, Ct her sons Edward., Jeremiah were Executors. K Check out our web page: DPratt137's Home Page

Tracy, if you need cemetery information about Mary Sill, I have access to those records through a subscription. The information is through the Harry E. Bolton records. Carma (Bull) Stone

Hi- You are lucky I was taking a neighbor to the Court House this afternoon to prove to her one could find a will without having the date of death. Which we did ! While I was there looked for Mary Sill. her will was in Book F but on page 75. I had it copied 4 pages. Now I need your snail mail address to mail it to you. I thought I had it but guess I lost it in the shuffle. Mary was of Burling ton and a widow and ? of Andrew Sill of Saybrook, Ct her sons Edward., Jeremiah were Executors. K --- Original Message ----- From: <DPratt137@aol.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:25 AM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Sill will needed > Hi > I hope if some kind soul out there is going to be doing any research at the > county records they could get me a copy of a will for a Mary Sill whose will > was probated 1822. She is supposed to be in book F page 7. I would reimburse any > costs. > Thank you > Tracy > > Check out our web page: > DPratt137's Home Page > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in digest mode send an email with > the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message > to the following address: NYOtsego-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi I hope if some kind soul out there is going to be doing any research at the county records they could get me a copy of a will for a Mary Sill whose will was probated 1822. She is supposed to be in book F page 7. I would reimburse any costs. Thank you Tracy Check out our web page: DPratt137's Home Page

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/otsego/wills/vc/pope-gershom.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/otsego/wills/ve/calkins-abel.txt These were submitted by SAMPUBCO customers to be uploaded into USGenWeb Archives to be available to others. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ny/otsego/otsego.htm W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO / NY File Manager, USGenWeb Archives

I will answer whatever questions I can from the New England Hist.Journal about the Freemans ..Oliver, Otis,Richard, Samuel and Permilla FreemanLent and Cynthia Freeman Lent.. IF this was considered a bid for commericial "stuff"...am sorry.

It has always been my understanding that commercial advertisements were not allowed on Rootsweb lists. Will the list administrator please clarify? Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe Seal Beach, CA SueMHR@aol.com Susan, Did it ever occur to you this had been allowed for long time, now in 7th year - as long as there are NO mention of money in message, just announcements of any new additions. It is up to the ones who browse through to decide for themselves. And if you insist on very narrow view, then why are there Ancestry.com taglines in almost every Rootsweb mailing list? And there would be NO USGenWeb Project, no Rootsweb, no GenForum, etc because they all require $$$ to maintain, to acquire records to transcribe, so forth. There is no such as FREE genealogy. Never from day one. (You're paying AOL monthly fee to access through AOL.) And secondly, you didn't squawk when I post same thing on MA-Mendon list. Not even on RIProv-L because YOU knew you stand to find more information relating to the Cook(e) and Aldrich families. You and I have SAME Aldrich lines. Neither did you squawk about 3 weeks ago when I notified of additional several volumes of indexes relating to Otsego County after long absence. Deny the knowledge of such resources to others is extreme unfair to others because there are many loose bricks in these resources they can utilize to break through their brick walls. And along with every order I send out email message urging the customers to transcribe and share with others through local websites, Archives and mailing lists. So far I can assure you, less than 10 percent do. So who are real losers ? It is the ones you don't want to know about the resources. I've run into a good number who utilized my site to prepare their research trips and for this I am happy for them. Then there are those who are unable to make trips anywhere themselves for various reasons and can't afford costly research fees. Did it ever occur to you the costs in New York is getting more expensive - $75.00 per record mandated and allowed by the New York state law. Got to get busy uploading more than 40 transcripts of will records relating to New York. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ny/recentupload.htm listing a great deal of records that had been transcribed for NY archives. http://www.sampubco.com/wills/recentupload.htm showing lists of will records that had been added beside New York. Jan Cortez who is Coordinator of Otsego County is authorized to have any copies I personally create be copied from Archives to add to Otsego County if she wish and she also knows she has to contact other submitters of Otsego county-related information for permissions to add these records, too. Otherwise she would have to fork over $$ just to get raw copies to transcribe. So there's nothing that is truly free. And lastly, I have zero tolerance for anyone who try to restrict access by others, preventing them from finding the clues and sources. W. David Samuelsen

Just uploaded to the Otsego website, the following cemeteries: Decatur, Eliot Hill, Hilsinger and Ferris. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyotsego/ Jan

In a message dated 4/28/04 4:20:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RThoden@aol.com writes: << I was under same impression and yet we constantly read of new additions only to learn they are ADVERTISING inasmucha as they charge for any information. RThoden@aol.com >> What is this message about? You didn't copy and past part of the message you are answering and you didn't change the subject line so I can't tell what you are talking about.

I was under same impression and yet we constantly read of new additions only to learn they are ADVERTISING inasmucha as they charge for any information. RThoden@aol.com

It has always been my understanding that commercial advertisements were not allowed on Rootsweb lists. Will the list administrator please clarify? Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe Seal Beach, CA SueMHR@aol.com "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead, 1901-1978

Will Testators Indexes NY - Rockland Vol. H-I (1858-1861) (28 Apr 2004) NY - Madison Vol 35-36 (1890-1901) (28 Apr 2004) NY - Montgomery Vol 23 (1901-1904) (28 Apr 2004) NY - Columbia - Vol. S (1885-1889) (26 Apr 2004) NY - Orange - Vol. E (1813-1815) (26 Apr 2004) NY - Otsego Vol. 11 (1859-1862) (26 Apr 2004) NY - Cayuga - Petitons for Naturalizations Vol. 1-6 (1906-1920) (26 Apr 2004) ongoing These are not only counties also available. Many counties in at least 20 states with Will Testators, Naturalizations and Guardianships. http://www.sampubco.com/ W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

IN April 2004 New Eng. Register...is some good information, thoroughly researched on Freeman, Otis, Oliver, Richard.