--=======13CA67B2======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-227246F2; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry, this came in today: HR 10 passed the House last Friday. The best you can hope for is changes in conference committee, because a different version (S.2845) passed the Senate. But it is still worth writing both your congress-person and your Senators. Jean --=======13CA67B2======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-227246F2 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/04 --=======13CA67B2=======--

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I did a little research on this bill, and find that it is no more restrictive than the current law. What it will stop is someone getting a current, valid birth certificate, from a living individual. I see it as of no concern to someone doing genealogical work. Looks more like a scare tactic from someone who has ulterior motives. Dave Seely

Has anyone stopped to look at the account numbers used now by insurance companies, including homeowners insurance, banks and others. Even department stores want your number. Some of these companies outsource their bookkeeping to overseas companies. Yes, I am talking about your social security numbers! And they are worried about a birth date?

--=======298C1CC3======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-9377D09; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In case you didn't get Ancestry Daily News for Oct 7 (which I didn't until the other day, though I'd received some information from the GEN-NYS list) the following notice was in it. We should all write or e-mail, since as the bill stands, it would be devastating for our research if passed: IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUESTED-- LEGISLATION IN CONGRESS SEEKS TO RESTRICT ACCESS TO BIRTH RECORDS; FGS RECOMMENDS WRITING TO YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES ===================================================================== The U.S. House of Representatives is considering a bill, House Resolution 10 (H.R. 10), which seeks to restrict access to birth certificates. This bill, which purpose is to respond to the threat of terrorism, is on a fast track to passage and has been voted on by several committees already. Your help is needed now. David Rencher, Chairman of the Record Access and Preservation Committee, a joint committee of the National Genealogical Society and Federation of Genealogical Societies, has sent a letter to the bill's sponsor, Congressman Dennis Hastert, recommending an amendment to the bill as follows: "However, nothing in this Chapter 2 shall be construed to require a State to change its law with respect to public access to (A) non- certified copies of birth certificates, or to (B) birth certificates or birth records once a period of 100 years has elapsed from the date of creation of the certificate or record." A copy of the letter is available on the FGS site at: http://www.fgs.org/rpa/formalactions.htm To view this bill, go to: http://thomas.loc.gov Enter HR 10 in the search box for "Bill Number." ACTION IS NEEDED NOW Because this bill is moving toward passage so quickly, it is urged that the genealogical community take action immediately and let their representatives know that they are in support of David Rencher's amendment and the FGS position in this important matter. To find your state representative's contact information, go to: http://www.house.gov/writerep/ HOW SHOULD I WORD MY LETTER? While you should word the letter in any way that is comfortable for you, it is recommended that you include the following as a portion of the letter: "While I support the intention to increase security to protect the U.S. from terrorists and those who wish to improperly take U.S. identities, I am concerned that those researching their family's history continue to have access to non-certified birth records. Therefore, in order to support HR-10 I ask that you amend HR-10 Section 3063(d)(2) by adding the following wording to the existing paragraph: 'However, nothing in this Chapter 2 shall be construed to require a State to change its law with respect to public access to (A) non- certified copies of birth certificates or to (B) birth certificates or birth records once a period of 100 years has elapsed from the date of creation of the certificate or record.' I believe that this additional language is imperative so that the states do not react by restricting all certificates to comply with the law, rather than dealing with certified as opposed to non- certified birth certificates. This proposed amendatory language would remind them that they can and should be treated differently." --=======298C1CC3======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-9377D09 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/04 --=======298C1CC3=======--

Does anyone know a web site to research French Immigration through the Port of New Orleans about 1850? Kathy Walters Minder researching: maternal; Egert, Curran, Yackley, Breen, Redmond, Grose, Lambert paternal; Walter(s), Johnson, Nilsson, Edwards, Ballard, Ague spouse: maternal; Abell, Wethington, Sanders paternal; Minder, Andree, Schmidt, Miller

In a message dated 10/6/2004 11:20:48 AM US Mountain Standard Time, ahopkins@oregontrail.net writes: Was someone on this site looking for Phetteplace? Just cleaned out my mailbox..and then found some information on this surname. Let me know? Ann Would appreciate the b. & d. & marraige date of Emmit Phetteplace who married Milly A. Medbury Thank you Allan

Was someone on this site looking for Phetteplace? Just cleaned out my mailbox..and then found some information on this surname. Let me know? Ann

Thank you so much George, Sorry I didn't see this and answer sooner but your reply is very much appreciated. I wonder what the draw of Sandusky was??? Appreciatively, marilyn George Campbell wrote: >Hello Marilyn > >My John Keyes Campbell (1797-1873), born in Cherry Vally, went to Sandusky >around 1820 and worked at the Sandusky Clarion ( a newspaper owned and >founded by his uncle David Campbell), was a part time farmer, and operated >stores at North Monroeville, Russell's Corners, and Strongs Ridge, all of >these locations being in Huron County, OH. Many of his Campbell relatives >moved from Otsego/Montgomery to the Sandusky/Huron county areas of Ohio at >the same time. > >George > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Marilyn Demas <schoolbell@ulink.net> >To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 4:29 PM >Subject: Re: [NYOTSEGO] Roll Call of my names > > > > >>Hello George, >>May I ask the occupation of your John Campbell in Sandusky, Ohio? >>Thank you! >>marilyn >> >>LPurch6636@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >>>I have been noticing lately that several recent posters have ancestors >>> >>> >who > > >>>were born in Cherry Valley, Otsego Co., NY at the turn of the century, >>> >>> >ca. 1800. > > >>>I would appreciate it if you would keep your eye out for my ancestor b. >>> >>> >in > > >>>Cherry Valley in 1821 or 1817; his name was William James (W.J.) Winney. >>>I will keep a list of your names as I do my own research and contact you >>> >>> >if I > > >>>see anything. >>> >>>Kathleen >>>LPurch6636@aol.com >>> >>>In a message dated 8/11/04 9:44:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, >>>aon.912105269@aon.at writes: >>>My great-grandfather, John Keyes Campbell, was born 1797 in Cherry >>> >>> >Valley. > > >>>However, he went to Sandusky, Ohio, and died 1873 in Valparaiso, Indiana, >>> >>> >so > > >>>maybe he is not the same as your John Campbell. The parents of John >>> >>> >Keyes > > >>>Campbell were Benjamin Smith Campbell (1773-1852) and Sally Keyes >>>(1778-1858). >>> >>>George Campbell >>> >>> >>>==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== >>>To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, >>> >>> >unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following >address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com > > >>>============================== >>>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== >>To unsubscribe from this list in digest mode send an email with >>the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message >>to the following address: NYOtsego-d-request@rootsweb.com >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> > > >==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this list in digest mode send an email with >the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message >to the following address: NYOtsego-d-request@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

LPurch6636@aol.com didn't post "I know some of those records are now in the Mormom Church Library in SLC..." I didn't know this at all! Somebody else posted it! Kathleen LPurch6636@aol.com In a message dated 9/28/04 10:54:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, SueMHR@aol.com writes: In a message dated 9/28/2004 3:12:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, LPurch6636@aol.com writes: I know some of those records are now in the Mormon Church Library in SLC. ------------ The Vosburgh Collection is all on film in SLC and can be ordered into your local LDS family history center. If you check their online catalogue under New York, Otsego, Cherry Valley and/or under title Vosburgh Collection, you may be able to determine whether your church was filmed. Go to http://www.familysearch.org and clip on Family History Library Catalogue. Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe SueMHR@aol.com Seal Beach, CA

In a message dated 9/28/2004 3:12:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, LPurch6636@aol.com writes: I know some of those records are now in the Mormon Church Library in SLC. ------------ The Vosburgh Collection is all on film in SLC and can be ordered into your local LDS family history center. If you check their online catalogue under New York, Otsego, Cherry Valley and/or under title Vosburgh Collection, you may be able to determine whether your church was filmed. Go to http://www.familysearch.org and clip on Family History Library Catalogue. Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe SueMHR@aol.com Seal Beach, CA A friend is one who comes in when the whole world has gone out. Anonymous

Thank you for this reference! Several of these Winne's are on our short list to be William James Winney's father. The google suggestion was a good one too. Maybe I'll finally get the connection! Kathleen In a message dated 9/28/04 4:51:37 PM US Mountain Standard Time, fly@execulink.com writes: Check this out... http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyotsego/cherryvalleyrecords.txt Also you might want to use google search engine and search using keywords Cherry Valley records... Good luck. Linda Robinson

Thanks, Harriett! Kathleen "I know some of those records are now in the Mormon Church Library in SLC. You might try there to see if they might have a copy or know if and where they might be." "Most" records which the LDS Church library has in SLC are also available to rent @ your local Family History Library, i.e. the Mormon Church. You can for the most part find what is available by searching the card catalog @ familysearch.org. Harriet Chase

"I know some of those records are now in the Mormon Church Library in SLC. You might try there to see if they might have a copy or know if and where they might be." "Most" records which the LDS Church library has in SLC are also available to rent @ your local Family History Library, i.e. the Mormon Church. You can for the most part find what is available by searching the card catalog @ familysearch.org. Harriet Chase

Many, many thanks! Kathleen In a message dated 9/28/04 2:06:42 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cliff.hayes@earthlink.net writes: Please let me stick an oar in. Many years ago a gentleman named Steven (Stephen?) Vosburgh went through much of the Catskill area and I don/t know how much more of the State of New York copying births, deaths, and marriages of every church where he could cajole the pastor, minister or other keeper of the records to allow it. I know some of those records are now in the Mormon Church Library in SLC. You might try there to see if they might have a copy or know if and where they might be. Cliff Hayes

Please see my note sent to this web site earlier today. Cliff Hayes ----- Original Message ----- From: <LPurch6636@aol.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:09 AM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Early Cherry Valley Baptismal Records > Can someone please tell me how to get Baptismal Records for Cherry Valley > Churches pre-1821? > > If the church is no longer there, are they lost forever? > > Many thanks. > Kathleen > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in digest mode send an email with > the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message > to the following address: NYOtsego-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Please let me stick an oar in. Many years ago a gentleman named Steven (Stephen?) Vosburgh went through much of the Catskill area and I don/t know how much more of the State of New York copying births, deaths, and marriages of every church where he could cajole the pastor, minister or other keeper of the records to allow it. I know some of those records are now in the Mormon Church Library in SLC. You might try there to see if they might have a copy or know if and where they might be. Cliff Hayes ----- Original Message ----- From: <SueMHR@aol.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [NYOTSEGO] Early Cherry Valley Baptismal Records > In a message dated 9/28/2004 6:10:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > LPurch6636@aol.com writes: > If the church is no longer there, are they lost forever? > Generally, when a church is disbanded, the records are sent to the > denominational headquarters or to the library of a denominational university. This will > vary from church to church. It may take a little research to track them > down. I would start with the local historical society to see if they know where > the records are -- sometimes they do. If not, then write to the nearest local > headquarters or university library for the denomination to see if they have > them or know where they are. > > Another resource in NY is the NY Historical and Biographical Record. They > have published some of the old records for disbanded churches. You might luck > out and find your church was published. > Sue > > > Susan M. Hillier Roe > SueMHR@aol.com > Seal Beach, CA > > A friend is one who comes in when the whole world has gone out. > Anonymous > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Thanks, Susan! (I used to live in Hawthorne, CA, 3 miles from the beach. As long as there wasn't an earthquake, a lovely place to live!) Kathleen In a message dated 9/28/04 9:47:44 AM US Mountain Standard Time, SueMHR@aol.com writes: In a message dated 9/28/2004 6:10:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LPurch6636@aol.com writes: If the church is no longer there, are they lost forever? Generally, when a church is disbanded, the records are sent to the denominational headquarters or to the library of a denominational university. This will vary from church to church. It may take a little research to track them down. I would start with the local historical society to see if they know where the records are -- sometimes they do. If not, then write to the nearest local headquarters or university library for the denomination to see if they have them or know where they are. Another resource in NY is the NY Historical and Biographical Record. They have published some of the old records for disbanded churches. You might luck out and find your church was published. Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe SueMHR@aol.com Seal Beach, CA

In a message dated 9/28/2004 6:10:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LPurch6636@aol.com writes: If the church is no longer there, are they lost forever? Generally, when a church is disbanded, the records are sent to the denominational headquarters or to the library of a denominational university. This will vary from church to church. It may take a little research to track them down. I would start with the local historical society to see if they know where the records are -- sometimes they do. If not, then write to the nearest local headquarters or university library for the denomination to see if they have them or know where they are. Another resource in NY is the NY Historical and Biographical Record. They have published some of the old records for disbanded churches. You might luck out and find your church was published. Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe SueMHR@aol.com Seal Beach, CA A friend is one who comes in when the whole world has gone out. Anonymous

Can someone please tell me how to get Baptismal Records for Cherry Valley Churches pre-1821? If the church is no longer there, are they lost forever? Many thanks. Kathleen