Guilty!! I am guilty of having compiled all the records and read all the stones in Riverside, Oneonta Plains and Glenwood cemeteries in Oneonta but have not put them on line. :'( I do offer lookups for them and I enjoy doing so. I also include other family members, especially ladies' maiden names, as well as women being buried with first husbands and under their names rather than their second marriage which many times people searching are not aware of. Really confusing these ladies who die under one name and are buried under another. A few advantages that I supply, which would not be found if just the cemetery names were on line, is that I also send all other information on everyone buried in any lot relating to a surname being searched and have supplied many people with ladies for whom married names were never known. I also search the many many records that I have collected for Oneonta area and supply much more information for individuals than just burial places and dates and many times have gone beyond that to dig for a little more information for someone. I also search the many scrapbooks I have indexed for Huntington Library NYS room and provide librarian access for people to contact her for information...indexes that are not available on line. I also search the many obits that I have for Oneonta Plains Cem. from 1973-1995 just to name a few. If just the cemetery entries were on line, none of this other information would be available. Annette, thanks SO much for all the wonderful volunteering you do in transcribing records. Without your wonderful help, there would be so much less online for researchers. And I hope that you get tons of cemetery records to transcribe for online!! Thanks to ALL the many transcribers... without you there wouldn't be much help out there for those who can't travel. If we all share what we collect, we can help everybody. A note of CAUTION regarding transcribed cemeteries on the Otsego Co. web page-----there are many that lead you to believe that it is the entire cemetery transcribed on line when it isn't. It's just an oversight that no one stated it was only a partial listing. For example, the Colliersville Cemetery (often called Cooperstown Junction Cem.) was online. I did not realize they were one and the same and when I read the stones and transcribed the cemetery a few years ago, I discovered that there were about 400 entries in the cemetery and only about 1/3 were actually transcribed on line but nothing was stated so it was thought that the entire cemetery was transcribed.. So always try to make sure that ALL the transcriptions are online or your ancestor could be there and you think they aren't because they aren't listed. You can always contact the transcriber to be sure. Sandy Goodspeed, Oneonta Plains Cemetery Historian Annette Campbell wrote: I find it interesting that there are some cemeteries that have been read in full but are not on-line but the persons are doing look-ups. I have offered my services many times to type up these cemeteries if you don't care to with full tribute to you for reading them.

Hi to all, Since there seems to be quite a bit of activity on this list right now, I thought I would post my Otsego Co. surnames of interest again... CHILSON, GROESBECK, COOK, VAN BUREN, UTTER, OLMSTEAD, HARTSHORN, BABCOCK, CONICK, GENUNG, SABIN, CASWELL, HUBBARD, ALLEN, SLACK Some of these are my direct lines and some are connecting families. Some I have lots of info. on and some I need info. on. I would be happy to discuss any of them. Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe SueMHR@aol.com Seal Beach, CA A friend is one who comes in when the whole world has gone out. Anonymous

I have been reading the posts on all the WRIGHT findings hoping to see the ones that I am searching for: John Wright and his wife Clarisia/ Clarissa (unknown) in Westford/Schenevous in 1860 census and earlier in Worcester, Otsego, NY. I have no birth or death on either..In later life Clarissa was listed as paralyzed and I know of no accident. These are my brick walls and I would appreciate suggestions or direction. They are my ggrandparent. Thank you. Roberta

Hi Pat, Is this why Pleasant Valley (Adams) in Hartwick is not given? J. Benne

<<<<<I have also found that many small historical societies feel that it limits people coming in person to use their archives, or by requesting information from them for a small fee and they quite often operate on donations received for the use of their archives. Another source of income for a small archive could be a booklet (of Cemetery Listings, Marriages, Births and etc.) that was printed by the Society and the proceeds for its sale going to the archives for operating funds. None of this would be a source of income if all information was online and perhaps some of the smaller archives would not be able to continue staying open.>>>>> hmmmm, what I have to say has nothing to do with NY; only the way we are operating up here in the hills of Randolph, Vermont. Our local historical society not only has surveyed, computerized, printed and put on line as much info as we can get to. This is a service we are providing which is well worth it. I have done one portion of Randolph Center, with the second done and printed but not on line yet. What a feeling of satisfaction I get when a person can ID their people as to what row and number and perhaps ask if one might be available to take pix. We distribute hard copies to the town clerk, funeral home, library and others. I know the TC has referred to this reference when asked for info. the hardest part I think is finding decent weather to get out there to get the info off the stones. Winter too much snow. Summers seems have become too hot, at least for us Vermonters. For an example of what it looks like "visit" Randolph Center Vermont Cem. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/vt/county/orange/randolph/cems/rand/index.htm <Harriet M.Chase>

In a message dated 7/8/2005 3:56:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, anncamp@linkny.com writes: Here in Steuben County NY we have every known cemetery and some which no longer exist listed in the Painted Hills.org website for all to peruse. -------------------- Thanks for the tip! I wasn't aware of this website. Just checked it out. Looks great! And thanks to all of you for the various other tips about Otsego, Madison, etc. These are all counties where I am doing research. This has been a very helpful discussion. Sue Susan M. Hillier Roe SueMHR@aol.com Seal Beach, CA A friend is one who comes in when the whole world has gone out. Anonymous

Hi Leigh, You MUST be kidding. Most people are not "firecrackers" like you are. Most people sigh and roll their eyes when you try to get information from them or stick your request in a to do list for some future date. I wish everyone had your speed and efficiency and willingness to help. Do you have films of the area newspaper/papers for the year 1843? I can't remember what years you have. Of course I am still looking for my Mary TITUS genealogy and she died in Butternuts in that year. I should make a trip over to see you anyway. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbertsville Free Library" <librarian@stny.rr.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Cemetery Information > > Good Morning, Annette - Good to hear from you. > > We must take a minute to remind all our friends that all active cemeteries > [In N.Y.] are privately owned, operated and licensed by the state. They > will provide information on burials upon request. All one has to do is ask. > > If one has trouble locating a cemetery official to contact, call the Town > Clerk where the cemetery is located and that person should be able to > provide the information needed. Most towns now have their officials and > phone numbers on line. > > Additionally, Town Historians should be able to help locate the person/s to > contact in their area. Most Town Historians' names and addresses, and in > some cases e-mail links, may be found on line - Otsego Co @ Rootsweb > historians to be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyotsego/historia.htm > > The Chenango county site also has Town Clerks listed and you might just > wish to take a look [great information]: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/clerkcty.htm > > One more idea: Most Funeral Directors now have websites of their own. > They will definitely be able to provide the name of the contact person for > ANY cemetery in their service area. An example to check is : > http://www.jseatonmcgrath.com/ > > Wishing you success with your project, > > Leigh > > Leigh C. Eckmair, Historian > Town of Butternuts & > The Local History Collection > The Gilbertsville Free Library > Gilbertsville, NY, 13776 > librarian@stny.rr.com > http://www.gilbertsville.com/Library.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Annette Campbell" <anncamp@linkny.com> > To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:02 AM > Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Cemeteries > > > | I find it interesting that there are some cemeteries that have been read in > | full but are not on-line but the persons are doing look-ups. Most of the > | time there can be found many other family members, girls in particular who > | are also buried with their husbands in these cemeteries. Here in Steuben > | County NY we have every known cemetery and some which no longer exist > | listed in the Painted Hills.org website for all to peruse. I have many > | family lines in Otsego County I'm trying to locate burial sites for. I have > | offered my services many times to type up these cemeteries if you don't care > | to with full tribute to you for reading them. So, I appeal to anyone who > | has a reading or had re-read an old one from the former reading to please > | get them on-line as soon as possible. It would sure be a great help to > | those like me who are so far away and cannot travel. Annette > | > > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Hi Annette It is not always possible if the person who did the original survey and listing of the Cemetery does not give you permission to put their work online. Feelings regarding this can differ depending on who did the work. I have also found that many small historical societies feel that it limits people coming in person to use their archives, or by requesting information from them for a small fee and they quite often operate on donations received for the use of their archives. Another source of income for a small archive could be a booklet (of Cemetery Listings, Marriages, Births and etc.) that was printed by the Society and the proceeds for its sale going to the archives for operating funds. None of this would be a source of income if all information was online and perhaps some of the smaller archives would not be able to continue staying open. Regards Pat R

Hi Again Christine I meant to tell you that you will find the "Crandall" Surname in many of these Cemeteries. I am a Crandall Descendant also. Pat R

Christine I have the dates when the St John family joined the church and given names telling of these people who joined the SDB Church and the last record of a family member at Leonardsville (SDB Church is still there-Brookfield #1), but I guess you have all that information so I won't forward it. It did give an idea of the length of time the family was in this area. I have been to this SDB church also. A DAR member at my Chapter here in FL (and a cousin through my Kenyon line) was B and raised in Leonardsville, but at that time her Kenyon family was Methodist. There are 2 Cemeteries in Leonardsville (Village) and I have been to both of them. One is the Leonardsville Cemetery right off the main highway on the South Side and visible from the Road and the other is an Old Cemetery (which might have the early people you want) that is on a side street (almost across the hwy. from the side street where the SDB Church sits) and can only be entered by getting permission to go through someone's yard. The PO will tell you how to get there. I just knocked on a couple doors. However that was not a problem they were happy to let us go through their yard. It is gated with an old black Iron fence and the stones are very old. I do know that Clarke/Clark was one name on the stones and many familiar SDB members were buried there. No one was able to give me the exact name of this Cemetery. I spent probably 3-4 days in this area just strolling various Cemeteries. My niece taught at Brookfield High School until she transferred to Utica to teach in Jan. 2005. In addition there are cemeteries in Brookfield (which is very close), not to mention many small ones in between and the site of the other SDB Church, Brookfield #2 (Still operating) and could be another possible burial place. Here is a web site that you can go through although it is not indexed. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/madison/cemeteries/brookfld.txt I would suggest that you contact the "Galleries Library" Syracuse NY that has all of the local History and Genealogical information for Onondaga County and all surrounding counties including Madison. They have an excellent Special Collections Room and many Cemetery Listings and although I usually did my own research at the Library (used to live in the area) I know that they are very good about helping people outside the area. Their website is: http://www.onlib.org/website/about/central.htm Go to the Local History/Genealogy and hit that and you will find the email address that you can send an inquiry through. Good Luck! Warm Regards Pat R

Good Morning, Annette - Good to hear from you. We must take a minute to remind all our friends that all active cemeteries [In N.Y.] are privately owned, operated and licensed by the state. They will provide information on burials upon request. All one has to do is ask. If one has trouble locating a cemetery official to contact, call the Town Clerk where the cemetery is located and that person should be able to provide the information needed. Most towns now have their officials and phone numbers on line. Additionally, Town Historians should be able to help locate the person/s to contact in their area. Most Town Historians' names and addresses, and in some cases e-mail links, may be found on line - Otsego Co @ Rootsweb historians to be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyotsego/historia.htm The Chenango county site also has Town Clerks listed and you might just wish to take a look [great information]: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/clerkcty.htm One more idea: Most Funeral Directors now have websites of their own. They will definitely be able to provide the name of the contact person for ANY cemetery in their service area. An example to check is : http://www.jseatonmcgrath.com/ Wishing you success with your project, Leigh Leigh C. Eckmair, Historian Town of Butternuts & The Local History Collection The Gilbertsville Free Library Gilbertsville, NY, 13776 librarian@stny.rr.com http://www.gilbertsville.com/Library.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Campbell" <anncamp@linkny.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] Cemeteries | I find it interesting that there are some cemeteries that have been read in | full but are not on-line but the persons are doing look-ups. Most of the | time there can be found many other family members, girls in particular who | are also buried with their husbands in these cemeteries. Here in Steuben | County NY we have every known cemetery and some which no longer exist | listed in the Painted Hills.org website for all to peruse. I have many | family lines in Otsego County I'm trying to locate burial sites for. I have | offered my services many times to type up these cemeteries if you don't care | to with full tribute to you for reading them. So, I appeal to anyone who | has a reading or had re-read an old one from the former reading to please | get them on-line as soon as possible. It would sure be a great help to | those like me who are so far away and cannot travel. Annette |

Christine - If you know the date of death of the"objects of your affection," and you know that they did die in Leonardsville or Brookfield/ all but the deaths prior to 1883 should be on file with the Town Clerks for those two townships. The Town Clerk should be able to provide copies of the death records indicating the location of burial [name of cemetery]. We have some Seventh Day Baptist information in our collection. Leigh Leigh C. Eckmair, Historian Town of Butternuts & The Local History Collection The Gilbertsville Free Library Gilbertsville, NY, 13776 librarian@stny.rr.com http://www.gilbertsville.com/Library.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Emond" <cemond64@comcast.net> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: [NYOTSEGO] cemetery followup/St. John family et al | Thank you to all on the Otsego list who responded to my inquiry regarding | cemetery books etc. I guess I had Leonardsville in the wrong county but I'm | posting my newest inquiry to both lists as a just in case. I have several | family members who hail from the Leonardsville, Plainfield and even | Brookfield area. I understand Leonardsville and Plainfield are neighboring | towns with a river in between. That may explain the confusion on my part | with regards to the correct county. | |In any case, I have several family members that I'm trying to find a final | resting place for. All the families are intertwined by marriage somehow and | all are Seventh Day Baptist. These families are CRANDALL, ST. JOHN, | BABCOCK, WILCOX, and others. I had inquired earlier about cemetery books | and basically what was out there. For the record, I do not know what | cemetery any of these family members are in but I'm hoping some kind soul | has a cemetery book on their shelf and would look up these names for me. | | In Leonardsville they are as follows: | | 25 Dec 1888 Death | Babcock, Alzina | | 16 Dec 1899 Death | Babcock, Mary | | 5 Feb 1908 Death | Crandall, Darwin Schuyler | | ABT. 1920 Death | St. John, George Whitfield | | 19 Mar 1850 Death | St. John, John Milton | | 31 Jan 1876 Burial | St. John, Milton Wilcox | | 14 Aug 1873 Death | Wilcox, Nancy | | | | In NY, Madison, Brookfield | | 1895 Death | Crandall, Jonathan | | 1 Feb 1890 Death | Crandall, Varnum | | 14 Sep 1918 Death | St. John, Henry Cornwall | Forgive the format, I copied the info from my genealogy program. | | If anybody can help me out and give me some clue about the final resting | place for any of these family members, I would be most grateful. I've spent | so much time working on a cemetery project in the county I live in I've done | very little of my own research. | | Christine Emond

Gerry Reed, who used to moderate this mailing list, helped me a lot with the Huntley Cemetery in Plainfield.....that's how I found my Smiths in Otsego Co. Debbie Smith Zorach

I find it interesting that there are some cemeteries that have been read in full but are not on-line but the persons are doing look-ups. Most of the time there can be found many other family members, girls in particular who are also buried with their husbands in these cemeteries. Here in Steuben County NY we have every known cemetery and some which no longer exist listed in the Painted Hills.org website for all to peruse. I have many family lines in Otsego County I'm trying to locate burial sites for. I have offered my services many times to type up these cemeteries if you don't care to with full tribute to you for reading them. So, I appeal to anyone who has a reading or had re-read an old one from the former reading to please get them on-line as soon as possible. It would sure be a great help to those like me who are so far away and cannot travel. Annette

Christine, My stepfather's CLAPPER line has CRANDELL and BABCOCK families in it. These families are from Otsego county around Maryland, Schenevus, and Cherry Valley. I just started looking into his family, but I will see what I do have that may find a connection. Also, we are having a family reunion this Sunday, so I will try to find out from those lines. Michael Reckeweg reckewegm@reckewegfamilytree.com Christine Emond <cemond64@comcast.net> wrote: ...In any case, I have several family members that I'm trying to find a final resting place for. All the families are intertwined by marriage somehow and all are Seventh Day Baptist. These families are CRANDALL, ST. JOHN, BABCOCK, WILCOX, and others. I had inquired earlier about cemetery books and basically what was out there. For the record, I do not know what cemetery any of these family members are in but I'm hoping some kind soul has a cemetery book on their shelf and would look up these names for me. In Leonardsville they are as follows: 25 Dec 1888 Death Babcock, Alzina 16 Dec 1899 Death Babcock, Mary 5 Feb 1908 Death Crandall, Darwin Schuyler ABT. 1920 Death St. John, George Whitfield 19 Mar 1850 Death St. John, John Milton 31 Jan 1876 Burial St. John, Milton Wilcox 14 Aug 1873 Death Wilcox, Nancy In NY, Madison, Brookfield 1895 Death Crandall, Jonathan 1 Feb 1890 Death Crandall, Varnum 14 Sep 1918 Death St. John, Henry Cornwall Forgive the format, I copied the info from my genealogy program. If anybody can help me out and give me some clue about the final resting place for any of these family members, I would be most grateful. I've spent so much time working on a cemetery project in the county I live in I've done very little of my own research. Christine Emond ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thank you to all on the Otsego list who responded to my inquiry regarding cemetery books etc. I guess I had Leonardsville in the wrong county but I'm posting my newest inquiry to both lists as a just in case. I have several family members who hail from the Leonardsville, Plainfield and even Brookfield area. I understand Leonardsville and Plainfield are neighboring towns with a river in between. That may explain the confusion on my part with regards to the correct county. In any case, I have several family members that I'm trying to find a final resting place for. All the families are intertwined by marriage somehow and all are Seventh Day Baptist. These families are CRANDALL, ST. JOHN, BABCOCK, WILCOX, and others. I had inquired earlier about cemetery books and basically what was out there. For the record, I do not know what cemetery any of these family members are in but I'm hoping some kind soul has a cemetery book on their shelf and would look up these names for me. In Leonardsville they are as follows: 25 Dec 1888 Death Babcock, Alzina 16 Dec 1899 Death Babcock, Mary 5 Feb 1908 Death Crandall, Darwin Schuyler ABT. 1920 Death St. John, George Whitfield 19 Mar 1850 Death St. John, John Milton 31 Jan 1876 Burial St. John, Milton Wilcox 14 Aug 1873 Death Wilcox, Nancy In NY, Madison, Brookfield 1895 Death Crandall, Jonathan 1 Feb 1890 Death Crandall, Varnum 14 Sep 1918 Death St. John, Henry Cornwall Forgive the format, I copied the info from my genealogy program. If anybody can help me out and give me some clue about the final resting place for any of these family members, I would be most grateful. I've spent so much time working on a cemetery project in the county I live in I've done very little of my own research. Christine Emond

There are a few pictures of the Burlington NY (Otsego Cty) Cemeteries at: http://community.webshots.com/album/94362862PdNrnB

Hi! There are two cemeteries in Burlington Green. The Burlington Cemetery on Route 16 is still active. The cemetery on Route 80 in the village is an old cemetery which has burials from 1802 to 1868 in the churchyard of the Congregational/Presbyterian Church which was demolished in the 1930's. I played in the cemetery as a child! Harry E. Bolton, a Burlington native, read many cemeteries in the area. It is these cemetery lists which I have access to through my subscription to the New England Genealogical and Historical Society. Leigh, I did report the missing cemetery to the Planning Office soon after the map was published. I believe that cemetery has a fence around it. I plan to call friends in the area for more information. Carma

Hi Pat, Cornwall St. John married Nancy Wilcox and they had 8 children. My line branches off at Milton Wilcox St. john. I was wondering where in NY some of these St. Johns are buried. I have death information but no place of burial for them. I believe the information I got was mostly from the St. John book. Do you have burial info? Christine -----Original Message----- From: PNUTREG@cs.com [mailto:PNUTREG@cs.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:10 PM To: NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYOTSEGO] cemetery/cemetery books/st John Hi Christine I have Cornwell St John and other information. Could you be looking for additional family members? If so, I have the information you might need. Regards Pat Reagan ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list in digest mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-d-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Hi- I agree the 'Cemeteries of Otsego County" map has many mistakes and as far as I know there has been no revised edtiton and will not be until the ones printed are gone The Burlington Green Cemetery is on County Route 16 and numbered 35 on the map. If anyone wants or need pictures from the Burlington Green Cemetery I would be able to do the job. K. ----- Original Message ----- From: <CARMAlotta@aol.com> To: <NYOTSEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [NYOTSEGO] cemetery/cemetery books/st John CEMETERY MAP > REMINDER: Not all of the cemeteries in Otsego County appear on the valuable > "Cemeteries of Otsego County" map unless a revised edition of the map has > been published. For example, the cemetery on Route 80 in the center of the > most important village in the Town of Burlington, Burlington Green, does not > appear on the map. > > I have a list of the burials in that cemetery and I repeat my offer to do > look-ups on that list. > > > Carma (Bull) Stone > > > ==== NYOTSEGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list in list mode send an email with the word, unsubscribe,in the subject field & body of the message to the following address: NYOtsego-l-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >